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[kswiston]

Let's not pretend a month after launch that it was a guaranteed success going into its release. Marvel took a big risk on a franchise that was extraordinarily niche to the average moviegoer.

Plenty of people were suggesting that general audiences are now going to these movies based on the Marvel name (just like people used to go to Pixar movies based on their rep) weeks/months before this film debuted, and that does seem to be the case.

 

[BLACKLAC]

 

[Dragonborn]

Wow...at this point, Disney is making more money than God (or at least James Cameron) lately. Frozen, Marvel, and another guaranteed billion for the new SW movie. WB was rolling when they had Harry Potter and Batman, but I'm trying to recall if anything's come close to what Disney has now.

It won't be long before we get a Harry Potter reboot

 

[agrajag]

Is Hollywood eventually going to start making movies in Chinese, with Chinese actors and then dub them into English for us plebes?

 

[Deadbeat]

It won't be long before we get a Harry Potter reboot

Not a reboot, but maybe a series following Potter's kid. Whole new cast with new adventures to follow.

 

[Metallix87]

Not a reboot, but maybe a series following Potter's kid. Whole new cast with new adventures to follow.

I'm shocked they haven't moved forward with this yet.

 

[Dram]

Is Hollywood eventually going to start making movies in Chinese, with Chinese actors and then dub them into English for us plebes?

They'll probably start giving Chinese actors more roles in their movies.

It won't be long before we get a Harry Potter reboot

I'm sure they'll make movies based off those new books she's writing.

 

[Oddduck]

Wow, those box office results for Sin City are a disaster.

I mean...I'm not surprised...but still, yikes.

 

[demosthenes]

Spoiler

that or black widow

If Lucy can make money, BW can make money.

 

[NastyBook]

PERFECTION.

 

[X05]

GotG holding better than expected, 300M seems to be happening :O

So, do You guys think gotg will suprass IM or even IM2 or even thor2 WW?

Yes, yes, likely.

Let's not pretend a month after launch that it was a guaranteed success going into its release. Marvel took a big risk on a franchise that was extraordinarily niche to everyone.

Fixed.

It won't be long before we get a Harry Potter reboot

We are getting like a trilogy of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them first though.

 

[mattiewheels]

It won't be long before we get a Harry Potter reboot

So assuming that, WB will have HP, DC, and Lego movies, along with whatever Nolan is up to. But seriously, Disney is cleaning up like I've never seen from anybody not named Cameron. It's like they're just shaking a great big money tree at this point.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

RR is stuck in a rut.

 

[DarkFlow]

It won't be long before we get a Harry Potter reboot

Well we are getting that Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them movie.

 

[PerezDeCorcho]

That's not how it works. If it's a movie I want to watch, I'll see it in whatever is available at the time I want to go. Sometimes it's 2D, sometimes it's 3D, it really makes no difference to me. I've never once not seen a movie because of the format it's in.

but then there's individuals such as myself, and, from what i can tell, plenty of others who pass off 3d just at the sound of it.

and it doesn't help when 2d showings become so hard to come by. i'm simply suggesting there should be more balance in available formats.

 

[BlackNMild2k1]

RR is stuck in a rut.

Maybe he should direct a Marvel Movie or TV show.

what would be a good fit for him?
Blade? Punisher?

 

[DarkFlow]

but then there's individuals such as myself, and, from what i can tell, plenty of others who pass off 3d just at the sound of it.

and it doesn't help when 2d showings become so hard to come by. i'm simply suggesting there should be more balance in available formats.

Judging by the box office of most of these movies, you're a minority. 3D makes more money, so the balance will always swing towards that. When people just start outright refusing to go to the 3D showings is when they would swing back. I don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Holy shit at Sin City. I knew it was going to be slaughtered but I thought it would make closer to $10m.

 

[Aquamarine]

How to Train Your Dragon vs. How To Train Your Dragon 2:


HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $43,732,319
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $92,135,916
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $133,404,438
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $158,251,066
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $178,345,927
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $192,173,750
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $201,013,867
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $207,647,696
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $210,990,918
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $212,755,053
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $213,883,143
($217,581,231 LIFETIME DOMESTIC GROSS)

HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $49,451,322
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $94,596,047
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $121,952,229
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $140,215,452
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $152,276,733
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $160,776,604
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $165,663,799
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $168,570,686
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $170,121,152
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $171,242,138
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $172,117,000 (STUDIO ESTIMATE)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: BEHIND $41,766,143 (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR




HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $42,300,810
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $100,084,145
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $150,300,000
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $177,000,000
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $188,771,905
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $204,400,000
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $212,669,147
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $221,600,000
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $235,323,620
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $244,643,240
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $254,176,000
($277,297,528 LIFETIME INTERNATIONAL GROSS)

HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $25,682,213
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $75,917,445
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $107,369,102
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $148,176,207
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $197,664,019
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $224,766,666
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $258,687,352
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $295,036,212
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $318,194,605
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $364,317,759
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $400,672,000 (ESTIMATE)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: AHEAD $146,496,000 (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR




HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $86,033,129
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $192,220,061
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $283,704,438
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $335,251,066
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $367,117,832
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $396,573,750
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $413,683,014
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $429,247,696
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $446,314,538
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $457,398,293
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $468,059,143
($494,878,759 LIFETIME WORLDWIDE GROSS)

HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $75,133,535
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $170,513,492
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $229,321,331
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $288,391,659
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $349,940,752
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $385,543,270
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $424,351,151
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $463,606,898
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $488,315,757
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $535,559,897
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $572,789,000 (ESTIMATE)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: AHEAD $104,729,857 (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR




Worldwide Grosses for Animated Dreamworks Movies:

1) Shrek 2 (2004, $150 million budget): $919,838,758
2) Shrek 3 (2007, $160 million budget): $798,958,162
3) Shrek 4 (2010, $165 million budget): $752,600,867
4) Madagascar 3 (2012, $145 million budget): $746,921,274
5) Kung Fu Panda 2 (2011, $150 million budget): $665,692,281
6) Kung Fu Panda 1 (2008, $130 million budget): $631,744,560
7) Madagascar 2 (2008, $150 million budget): $603,900,354
8) The Croods (2013, $135 million budget): $587,204,668
9) HTTYD 2 (2014, $145 million budget): $572,789,000 (estimated)
10) Puss in Boots (2011, $130 million budget): $554,987,477
11) Madagascar 1 (2005, $75 million budget): $532,680,671
12) HTTYD 1 (2010, $165 million budget): $494,878,759
13) Shrek 1 (2001, $60 million budget): $484,409,218
14) Monsters Vs. Aliens (2009, $175 million budget): $381,509,870
15) Shark Tale (2004, $75 million budget): $367,275,019
16) Over the Hedge (2006, $80 million budget): $336,002,996
17) Megamind (2010, $130 million budget): $321,885,765
18) Rise of the Guardians (2012, $145 million budget): $306,941,670
19) Bee Movie (2007, $150 million budget): $287,594,577
20) Turbo (2013, $127 million budget): $282,570,682
21) Mr. Peabody & Sherman (2014, $145 million budget): $268,759,499
22) Chicken Run (2000, $45 million budget): $224,834,564
23) The Prince of Egypt (1998, $70 million budget): $218,613,188
24) Wallace & Gromit (2005, $30 million budget): $192,610,372
25) Flushed Away (2006, $149 million budget): $178,120,010
26) Antz (1998, $105 million budget): $171,757,863
27) Spirit (2002, $80 million budget): $122,563,539
28) Sinbad (2003, $60 million budget): $80,767,884
29) The Road to El Dorado (2000, $95 million budget): $76,432,727


HTTYD 2 continues its momentum by shooting past Puss in Boots, a widely-considered success from DWA. Now, HTTYD 2 is more than $100 million above the equivalent release period of its predecessor.

With this kind of overseas momentum, I now expect >$600 million totals. HTTYD 2 should have no problem overtaking The Croods, DWA's most successful new IP in the past five years.

If we're lucky, HTTYD 2 might even be able to surpass Madagascar 2 and Kung Fu Panda 1 in total grosses.

And, I've heard reports that DWA stocks are rising from strong overseas HTTYD 2 performances...fantastic news for the company.

 

[SwiftDeath]

There was a standalone Puss in Boots movie and it grossed over 500M WW. Is this real life?

Great to hear HTTYD 2 do well. Loved the film and hope Dreamworks continues to deliver those types of movies

 

[jett]

I wonder why HTTYD2 didn't gross more. Kung Fu Panda 2 had a similar problem.

 

[Matt_]

There was a standalone Puss in Boots movie and it grossed over 500M WW. Is this real life?

Great to hear HTTYD 2 do well. Loved the film and hope Dreamworks continues to deliver those types of movies

It was actually quite a good film

 

[kswiston]

There was a standalone Puss in Boots movie and it grossed over 500M WW. Is this real life?

Great to hear HTTYD 2 do well. Loved the film and hope Dreamworks continues to deliver those types of movies

Overseas audiences love Shrek. Shrek 4 made $513M overseas, more than Shrek 2 or 3. In the US, it dropped by like $100M from Shrek 3 (which was already down more than $100M from Shrek 2).

 

[Wafflecakes]

Do we have China numbers for HTTYD this week? Has it launched in Japan yet?

 

[SwiftDeath]

It was actually quite a good film

I should watch it then. Just seems a hard character to make a movie around and then successfully market it for

Overseas audiences love Shrek. Shrek 4 made $513M overseas, more than Shrek 2 or 3. In the US, it dropped by like $100M from Shrek 3 (which was already down more than $100M from Shrek 2).

Yeah Shrek seems to be a massive name back in the day. I'm wonder if Dreamworks will ever get a property quite like that again. I guess Madagascar did well too

 

[Slayven]

Overseas audiences love Shrek. Shrek 4 made $513M overseas, more than Shrek 2 or 3. In the US, it dropped by like $100M from Shrek 3 (which was already down more than $100M from Shrek 2).

What about Ice Age?

 

[Ridley327]

Maybe he should direct a Marvel Movie or TV show.

what would be a good fit for him?
Blade? Punisher?

He'd be a pretty good fit for Ghost Rider, assuming Marvel wants to do something with that property in the near future.

 

[mattiewheels]

The whole Transformers success in China thing is really interesting, biggest movie ever. Now I read that they shot part over there, and there were even Chinese product placements, ha. Seeing as it blew our box office away, maybe they'll try to put more native actors in it.

 

[Akainu]

I never understand why people think it's funnier. It's cute that their scanner censors his middle finger, but his comment doesn't make sense. Why does he apologize for not knowing how their censoring technology works?

huh?

Well, I've seen people post that that's the reason it's funnier, that he's talking about their scanner.

wha?

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Dem Guardian legs! Number 1 is exactly where it belongs.

 

[kswiston]

What about Ice Age?

They love that most of all (well, prior to the Frozen craze anyhow).

 

[Alrus]

What about Ice Age?

That's not Dreamworks, it's Fox iirc. And those are insanely popular overseas too, over 80% of Ice Age 4's gross came from overseas. Before Frozen, Ice Age 3 and 4 both broke the record for highest grossing animated movies overseas.

 

[kswiston]

Do we have China numbers for HTTYD this week? Has it launched in Japan yet?

HTTYD2 is just over $50M in China so far. It's probably heading to a finish around $70M or so.

Why is there a tl: dr about httyd2 months after it was released? So random.

Foreign territories often get films months after the domestic release, and people like talking about worldwide totals.

 

[Wafflecakes]

Why is there a tl: dr about httyd2 months after it was released? So random.

The film had a staggered launch. It is just coming out in some countries.

 

[SmackAttack]

So happy for everyone involved with GotG. Great, great movie.

 

[mreddie]

GOTG is back on top, DAMN SON.

And I never expected Sin City 2 bombing. Damn son.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Let's not pretend a month after launch that it was a guaranteed success going into its release. Marvel took a big risk on a franchise that was extraordinarily niche to the average moviegoer.

Guardians of the Galaxy was never 'extraordinarily niche'. It always had broad appeal - much more than other super hero movies. People that were saying it was gonna bomb because no one knew who the characters were was a really weak excuse.

 

[Ridley327]

GOTG is back on top, DAMN SON.

And I never expected Sin City 2 bombing. Damn son.

That makes one of you.

No one expected single digits, that's for sure.

 

[The Lone Courier]

Damn Sin City wasn't that bad.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Is Hollywood eventually going to start making movies in Chinese, with Chinese actors and then dub them into English for us plebes?

Already happened....

 

[Wafflecakes]

HTTYD2 is just over $50M in China so far. It's probably heading to a finish around $70M or so.

Hrm. If it did 25m first week, and 25m second week, I think it could do above 70m.

 

[DarkFlow]

Why is there a tl: dr about httyd2 months after it was released? So random.

Edit: oh wow, released in june. Feels a lot longer than that

Aqua really loves it.

 

[mreddie]

That makes one of you.

No one expected single digits, that's for sure.

I was expecting 3 or 4 but not even top 5? SHIT.

 

[Wafflecakes]

Aqua really loves it.

Good taste tbh.

 

[DarkFlow]

Good taste tbh.

I haven't seen it yet. Waiting on the home release so my 2 year old can watch it. He loves the first one.

 

[kswiston]

Hrm. If it did 25m first week, and 25m second week, I think it could do above 70m.

4 days vs 7, and movies drop off pretty quickly after 2 weeks in China. Transformers 4 made $99M in its first weekend, ~$110M over the next week, but finished a little over $300M.

 

[Wafflecakes]

4 days vs 7, and movies drop off pretty quickly after 2 weeks in China. Transformers 4 made $99M in its first weekend, ~$110M over the next week, but finished a little over $300M.

I see. Still.... I will remain optimistic.

Also. I see KFP 3 doing 200-300m in China when it hits.

 

[kswiston]

I see. Still.... I will remain optimistic.

Also. I see KFP 3 doing 300-400m in China when it hits.

Isn't Kung Fu Panda 3 out next year?

Kung Fu Panda 2 and Transformers 3 released a few months apart in China. KFP2 did just over $90M, while Transformers 3 did $160M. I don't see how KFP3 outgrosses Transformers 4.

 

[Tobor]

Maybe he should direct a Marvel Movie or TV show.

what would be a good fit for him?
Blade? Punisher?

Keep that bum far away from any MCU movie.

 

[Popnbake]

I should watch it then. Just seems a hard character to make a movie around and then successfully market it for



Yeah Shrek seems to be a massive name back in the day. I'm wonder if Dreamworks will ever get a property quite like that again. I guess Madagascar did well too

I thought so too before seeing it but sure enough, they made it work.