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[Aquamarine]

Why is there a tl: dr about httyd2 months after it was released? So random.

Edit: oh wow, released in june. Feels a lot longer than that

Look closer:

How to Train Your Dragon vs. How To Train Your Dragon 2:


HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $43,732,319
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $92,135,916
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $133,404,438
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $158,251,066
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $178,345,927
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $192,173,750
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $201,013,867
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $207,647,696
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $210,990,918
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $212,755,053
HTTYD DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $213,883,143
($217,581,231 LIFETIME DOMESTIC GROSS)

HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $49,451,322
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $94,596,047
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $121,952,229
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $140,215,452
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $152,276,733
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $160,776,604
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $165,663,799
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $168,570,686
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $170,121,152
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $171,242,138
HTTYD 2 DOMESTIC GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $172,117,000 (STUDIO ESTIMATE)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: BEHIND $41,766,143 (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR




HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $42,300,810
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $100,084,145
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $150,300,000
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $177,000,000
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $188,771,905
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $204,400,000
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $212,669,147
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $221,600,000
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $235,323,620
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $244,643,240
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $254,176,000
($277,297,528 LIFETIME INTERNATIONAL GROSS)

HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $25,682,213
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $75,917,445
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $107,369,102
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $148,176,207
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $197,664,019
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $224,766,666
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $258,687,352
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $295,036,212
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $318,194,605
HTTYD 2 INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $364,317,759
HTTYD INTERNATIONAL GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $400,672,000 (ESTIMATE)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: AHEAD $146,496,000 (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR




HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $86,033,129
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $192,220,061
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $283,704,438
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $335,251,066
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $367,117,832
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $396,573,750
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $413,683,014
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $429,247,696
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $446,314,538
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $457,398,293
HTTYD WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $468,059,143
($494,878,759 LIFETIME WORLDWIDE GROSS)

HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 1): $75,133,535
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 2): $170,513,492
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 3): $229,321,331
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 4): $288,391,659
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 5): $349,940,752
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 6): $385,543,270
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 7): $424,351,151
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 8): $463,606,898
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 9): $488,315,757
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 10): $535,559,897
HTTYD 2 WORLDWIDE GROSS-TO-DATE (WEEK 11): $572,789,000 (ESTIMATE)

CURRENT PERFORMANCE: AHEAD $104,729,857 (ESTIMATE) COMPARED TO PREDECESSOR




Worldwide Grosses for Animated Dreamworks Movies:

1) Shrek 2 (2004, $150 million budget): $919,838,758
2) Shrek 3 (2007, $160 million budget): $798,958,162
3) Shrek 4 (2010, $165 million budget): $752,600,867
4) Madagascar 3 (2012, $145 million budget): $746,921,274
5) Kung Fu Panda 2 (2011, $150 million budget): $665,692,281
6) Kung Fu Panda 1 (2008, $130 million budget): $631,744,560
7) Madagascar 2 (2008, $150 million budget): $603,900,354
8) The Croods (2013, $135 million budget): $587,204,668
9) HTTYD 2 (2014, $145 million budget): $572,789,000 (estimated)
10) Puss in Boots (2011, $130 million budget): $554,987,477
11) Madagascar 1 (2005, $75 million budget): $532,680,671
12) HTTYD 1 (2010, $165 million budget): $494,878,759
13) Shrek 1 (2001, $60 million budget): $484,409,218
14) Monsters Vs. Aliens (2009, $175 million budget): $381,509,870
15) Shark Tale (2004, $75 million budget): $367,275,019
16) Over the Hedge (2006, $80 million budget): $336,002,996
17) Megamind (2010, $130 million budget): $321,885,765
18) Rise of the Guardians (2012, $145 million budget): $306,941,670
19) Bee Movie (2007, $150 million budget): $287,594,577
20) Turbo (2013, $127 million budget): $282,570,682
21) Mr. Peabody & Sherman (2014, $145 million budget): $268,759,499
22) Chicken Run (2000, $45 million budget): $224,834,564
23) The Prince of Egypt (1998, $70 million budget): $218,613,188
24) Wallace & Gromit (2005, $30 million budget): $192,610,372
25) Flushed Away (2006, $149 million budget): $178,120,010
26) Antz (1998, $105 million budget): $171,757,863
27) Spirit (2002, $80 million budget): $122,563,539
28) Sinbad (2003, $60 million budget): $80,767,884
29) The Road to El Dorado (2000, $95 million budget): $76,432,727

See how the worldwide grosses continue to rise by $30+ million every week?

That means the movie is still very much relevant in the worldwide market.

Also, Dreamworks has already recouped the film's development and marketing budget. Every dollar they make here (that doesn't go to the distributors / theaters / whatnot) is pure profit. The late stage box office of a movie is very important to the company if the film has legs (like HTTYD 2).

And, for those of us who like to track where the movie will end up relative to other Dreamworks movies...this late stage is important in determining final placements.

Aqua really loves it.

I have financial and emotional connections to DWA...the company really does hold a special place in my heart. So yeah...I go the extra mile for the company.

I'm also a big fan of 100% CGI films in general. The art form just has so much potential.

 

[kswiston]

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I'm also a big fan of 100% CGI films in general. The art form just has so much potential.

Do you think you will do this for future animation sequels?

 

[knicks]

Saw Sin City. Enjoyed it, but it severely lacked a plot. Or at least one that had any king of depth.

 

[Replicant]

The only way this gif can be enjoyed.

0_o; It really works!

 

[Aquamarine]

Do you think you will do this for future animation sequels?

Probably...for example, I'm really looking forward to Dreamworks's The Penguins of Madagascar spinoff and Disney's Big Hero 6 so I'd love to see how they perform financially relative to other DWA and WDAS titles.

 

[X05]

What about Ice Age?

Ice Age is pretty huge where I live, the fourth one has the ticket sale record by quite a margin.

Spoiler

Well, as huge as a movie can be in a market of 60-ish screens and 3.5M people anyway.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

Saw Sin City. Enjoyed it, but it severely lacked a plot. Or at least one that had any king of depth.

it started to drag a lot towards the end. It was also tough keeping the storyline straight in my head since this was a prequel and a sequel

 

[Wafflecakes]

Isn't Kung Fu Panda 3 out next year?

Kung Fu Panda 2 and Transformers 3 released a few months apart in China. KFP2 did just over $90M, while Transformers 3 did $160M. I don't see how KFP3 outgrosses Transformers 4.

Dreamworks has invested massively in China over the last couple years. They opened an amusement park and opened a studio there as well.

HTTYD 1 to 2 increased its gross 4 fold.

I know am overestimating, but I am very bullish on KFP3.

Edit: I meant to type 200-300m

 

[Neoxon]

James Gunn, Ronan, & Nebula approve of GotG's reclaiming of the Box Office Throne.

 

[charsace]

Eva Green needs a new team around her. She should be starring in a DC or Marvel movie, not something like Sin City 2.

 

[a secret-boss]

Hot damn GotG

 

[Dalek]

Well, I've seen people post that that's the reason it's funnier, that he's talking about their scanner.

What.

You're like the guy in the group I always have to explain the jokes to.

 

[Acorn]

And thus Hollywood learnt to not space out a sequel to a hot property 10 years.

Spoiler

I know it wasn't on purpose but still ffs

 

[Hidden One]

Hercules flopped.

 

[Mpl90]

Probably...for example, I'm really looking forward to Dreamworks's The Penguins of Madagascar spinoff and Disney's Big Hero 6 so I'd love to see how they perform financially relative to other DWA and WDAS titles.

And it'll be heavily appreciated as always I'm very curious about Big Hero 6's performance as well!

 

[Spinluck]

Man, I want to see TMNT so much. Still 2 months to wait ;_;

It's garbage.

 

[BlackNMild2k1]

And it'll be heavily appreciated as always I'm very curious about Big Hero 6's performance as well!

I'm sure it will do better if they continue to push the [MARVEL] nature of the property in the advertising. Maybe throw the Marvel Studios animation just before the WDAS logo during the ads, and I'm sure the movie will catch a lot attention.

 

[HerbertFish]

Screen Digest posted this list recently. Some of you may be interested

THE 20 BIGGEST OVERSEAS MARKETS

1. China $3.6B
2. Japan $2.4B
3. United Kingdom $1.7B
4. France $1.6B
5. India $1.5B
6. South Korea $1.4B
7. Russia $1.4B
8. Germany $1.3B
9. Australia $1.1B
10. Mexico $0.9B
11. Brazil $0.9B
12. Italy $0.8B
13. Spain $0.7B
14. Argentina $0.4B
15. Netherlands $0.3B
16. Turkey $0.3B
17. Taiwan $0.3B
18. Sweden $0.2B
19. Switzerland $0.2B
20. Malaysia $0.2B

- This counts both foreign grosses of Hollywood movies AND local films (as should be evidenced by India's standings since Hollywood films make shit all there)

- Germany and Australia are going to fall out of the Top 10 in a year or two, as both Mexico and Brazil are seeing big annual growth.

- China's film market has been growing by 20-30% each year. If that rate keeps up, it might challenge the domestic box office as the largest market within a decade(Currently $10.5-11B including grosses from Canada).

No Nollywood?!?!

 

[Ridley327]

I'm sure it will do better if they continue to push the [MARVEL] nature of the property in the advertising. Maybe throw the Marvel Studios animation just before the WDAS logo during the ads, and I'm sure the movie will catch a lot attention.

It's weird how they're handling the Marvel association for the property. The toys they're doing for Disney Infinity 2.0 mention them as being Disney originals, with no Marvel branding on them at all.

 

[kswiston]

I'm sure it will do better if they continue to push the [MARVEL] nature of the property in the advertising. Maybe throw the Marvel Studios animation just before the WDAS logo during the ads, and I'm sure the movie will catch a lot attention.

Disney Animation Studios has been doing really well for itself since Tangled, so I don't think they need the Marvel name to advertise this movie. Their last 3 films have grossed $2.3B

No Nollywood?!?!

Overseas markets

 

[John Dunbar]

Overseas markets

but if it counts both hollywood films and local films, shouldn't nigeria still be listed? wikipedia says the annual box office gross there is $800 million.

 

[Squalor]

Ha, I called it Friday morning.

I knew Sin City 2 wouldn't crack the top five for the weekend.

What an awful movie.

 

[Strictly]

Disney Animation Studios has been doing really well for itself since Tangled, so I don't think they need the Marvel name to advertise this movie. Their last 3 films have grossed $2.3B



Overseas markets

NollyWood

 

[kswiston]

but if it counts both hollywood films and local films, shouldn't nigeria still be listed? wikipedia says the annual box office gross there is $800 million.

Considering the biggest films of all time make like $100k in Nigeria, I am going to go with that being extremely wrong.

EDIT: It only counts the money made by theatres in that country. Not the money that their local movie industry brings in worldwide.

EDIT 2: I found what you were looking at. The same panel says that they had 460k admissions for all of 2010.

NollyWood

Ya, I blame just waking up when I read that post

Still, this is only theatre admissions. Even if admissions tripled from 2010 to 2013 in Nigeria, and even if every ticket was $20, theatres would be bringing in $27M in Nigeria. Most Nigerian films sell as straight-to-video dvds for $1-2.

 

[Son Of D]

Curious about something. What are the highest grossing first-in-the-series superhero movies? Including reboots as well like ASM and MoS.

 

[Manmademan]

Curious about something. What are the highest grossing first-in-the-series superhero movies? Including reboots as well like ASM and MoS.

Probably Superman 1978. 138 million domestic, 300 million worldwide.

Adjusted that's about 504 million domestic, 1.09 billion WW, in a MUCH weaker international market. Nothing is touching that one as a debut, imo.

 

[AdventureRacing]

As with a lot of things Australia seems to perform quite well considering our population.

 

[Manmademan]

As with a lot of things Australia seems to perform quite well considering our population.

all the killer spiders and venomous everything outside probably makes staying inside at the movies very attractive.

 

[djplaeskool]

Worldwide Grosses for Animated Dreamworks Movies:

29) The Road to El Dorado (2000, $95 million budget): $76,432,727

Damn, El Dorado is better than half of the movies on that list.

 

[AdventureRacing]

all the killer spiders and venomous everything outside probably makes staying inside at the movies very attractive.

Yeah but you've got to get to the cinema. Thankfully my kangaroo always gets me there safely.

 

[kswiston]

Probably Superman 1978. 138 million domestic, 300 million worldwide.

Adjusted that's about 504 million domestic, 1.09 billion WW, in a MUCH weaker international market. Nothing is touching that one as a debut, imo.

You can't adjust foreign grosses (especially from the 70s and 80s) using domestic ticket prices since currency rates and ticket inflation (and even year that the film was out) is not constant across countries.

However, Avengers and Spider-Man 1 were both bigger than Superman 1, even with inflation. Avengers beats it worldwide as well.

As with a lot of things Australia seems to perform quite well considering our population.

Australians like spending money I guess. The $105M that Australia spent watching Avatar is equivalent to a film making $1.5B domestic strictly adjusting for population difference (no idea if ticket prices are as inflated as game prices in Australia).

 

[Manmademan]

You can't adjust foreign grosses (especially from the 70s and 80s) using domestic ticket prices since currency rates and ticket inflation (and even year that the film was out) is not constant across countries.

However, Avengers and Spider-Man 1 were both bigger than Superman 1, even with inflation. Avengers beats it worldwide as well.

I considered Avengers, but decided that it really isn't a debut, since it's building on events that happened in previous movies, with the same actors, playing the same roles. its a sequel in everything but name.

You're right about spider man though. totally overlooked that one.

 

[JB1981]

Guardians doesn't seem to have penetrated international markets like some other properties. Curious why that is ? You would expect a 250 million domestic take to do more money overseas

 

[kswiston]

I considered Avengers, but decided that it really isn't a debut, since it's building on events that happened in previous movies, with the same actors, playing the same roles. its a sequel in everything but name.

You're right about spider man though. totally overlooked that one.

If you look at Boxofficemojo's adjusted chart for superhero films, it's 3 Batman films, 3 Spider-man films, two Iron Man films, Superman, and the Avengers.

 

[adg1034]

Damn, El Dorado is better than half of the movies on that list.

It's tough to be a god.

 

[BlackNMild2k1]

Disney Animation Studios has been doing really well for itself since Tangled, so I don't think they need the Marvel name to advertise this movie. Their last 3 films have grossed $2.3B

I have no doubt that the film will do fine, it's just that the first ad I saw didn't even mention Marvel, and then the HYPE train for GotG hit, and then the next extended trailer for BH6 said "based on characters from Marvel Comics" or something to that nature.
and seeing how the Marvel Studios intro can sell sunsets to the blind, I figured if they played up the connection to Marvel more, it would only help the movie in the end.

Technically, it's a Marvel property like X-Men and Spider-Man, so I don't see why it wouldn't have that Marvel Studios animation before the film as well.

all the killer spiders and venomous everything outside probably makes staying inside at the movies very attractive.

Except for all those killer spiders, ants, and other creepy crawlers, that like cool dark locations where the prey just sit there for hours on end, no one would check on you if you screamed, and no one would bother you if it looked like you were "sleeping".

 

[Calamari41]

Guardians doesn't seem to have penetrated international markets like some other properties. Curious why that is ? You would expect a 250 million domestic take to do more money overseas

I believe Guardians has a very staggered overseas release schedule. It has yet to open in several major markets.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

That scene was better in the trailer than it was in the movie. The lack of censoring took away some of the humor.

Didn't make any sense to censor it. All gestures are universal in all parts of the galaxy?

 

[womfalcs3]

Samuel Jackson is gonna be the all-time top grossing actor after the Avengers releases next year. He has a bunch of movies coming up, too. It doesn't say much given how many movies he does, but it will be a feat nonetheless.

From BoxOfficeMojo.com

 

[markatisu]

Guardians doesn't seem to have penetrated international markets like some other properties. Curious why that is ? You would expect a 250 million domestic take to do more money overseas

Well for one it has not opened yet in the #1 international market (China) and it is still based on a niche group of characters. Which I assume if they are niche here in their home country they are 100x more niche overseas

But still even at its current rate Marvel should be nothing but thrilled at its results

 

[kswiston]

Guardians decreased a bit in the actuals, but still finished the weekend with $17.2M (with a 31.5% drop from last weekend).

Edge of tomorrow is $49k away from finally passing that $100M domestic mark after 3 months. It should do so during the week.

 

[Linkified]

It's weird how they're handling the Marvel association for the property. The toys they're doing for Disney Infinity 2.0 mention them as being Disney originals, with no Marvel branding on them at all.

I believe from what I know is Disney can use those characters for Meet & Greet for WDW. However the master license agreement for characters at Universal mentions they can't use the Marvel name in advertising. So Disney is doing what it does best re-appropriating.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Australians like spending money I guess. The $105M that Australia spent watching Avatar is equivalent to a film making $1.5B domestic strictly adjusting for population difference (no idea if ticket prices are as inflated as game prices in Australia).

They're not cheap but they're nowhere near as inflated as game prices.

 

[Kak.efes]

Sin Shitty.

 

[Bold One]

couldn't believe that was Karen Gillian

 

[John Dunbar]

Samuel Jackson is gonna be the all-time top grossing actor after the Avengers releases next year. He has a bunch of movies coming up, too. It doesn't say much given how many movies he does, but it will be a feat nonetheless.

From BoxOfficeMojo.com

Harrison Ford and Tom Cruise are the most impressive on that list, considering that neither of them have endless amounts of animated movies and supporting roles to pad their resumes. Cruise also has only one real franchise to milk.

 

[jmdajr]

Samuel Jackson is gonna be the all-time top grossing actor after the Avengers releases next year. He has a bunch of movies coming up, too. It doesn't say much given how many movies he does, but it will be a feat nonetheless.

From BoxOfficeMojo.com

Robbin Williams man

 

[IAmRandom31]

Good lord look at those tomatometer scores.

god awful

Thank god for Guardians

 

[rexor0717]

Damn, El Dorado is better than half of the movies on that list.

Don't worry, the sequel will blow Shrek out of the water.

 

[Diprosalic]

Samuel Jackson is gonna be the all-time top grossing actor after the Avengers releases next year. He has a bunch of movies coming up, too. It doesn't say much given how many movies he does, but it will be a feat nonetheless.

From BoxOfficeMojo.com

Downey will shoot to 2 and overtake him with IM4.