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Wkd Box Office 11•07-09•14 - Fadaladala.

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rude

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Gone Girl is a perfect example of how word of mouth can affect the box office. It deserves it even if the plot got really ridic toward the end.
 

Aurongel

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Thrilled to see Gone Girl making such bank. There just aren't a lot of R-rated, 2.5 hour long thrillers being made anymore.
 

Neoxon

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But


it was still



at the top for a time.

Deny it all you want. If it makes you feel better
It was at the top in GotG's second & third weeks, & TMNT barely beat it. TMNT scraped by with #10 domestically as of now while GotG is the top dog domestically at the moment & the silver medal holder worldwide.
 

Neoxon

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Looks like Interstellar whacked Big Hero 6 on Monday.
I'm starting to think that the desire to see Interstellar in IMAX was the issue over the weekend. Plus the length of the movie. Then again, family movies perform better over the weekend in the case of Big Hero 6.
 

G-Fex

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It was at the top in GotG's second & third weeks, & TMNT barely beat it. TMNT scraped by with #10 domestically as of now while GotG is the top dog domestically at the moment & the silver medal holder worldwide.

Dude why are you so eager to defend GotG's honor? I get it, yes it was a money maker. That's the whole point of me bringing up TMNT (Cause it was massively hated on by people) and I know it's not a great movie. But you got to bring out this whole reasoning from your playbook. It's not like what I'm saying is ever going to hurt GotG or TMNT is ever going to touch it's sales.

Dude CMonn. You take stuff too seriously,especially dramatic zodd here.
 

ZoddGutts

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Anyways moving on from awkward drama from you know who, I want to know if John Wick is considered a success? It's not doing crazy high numbers but it does have a low budget for a action movie.
 

Mr.Swag

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Anyways moving on from awkward drama from you know who, I want to know if John Wick is considered a success? It's not doing crazy high numbers but it does have a low budget for a action movie.
I think its a break even bomb. What's the point of spending millions of dollars and just getting back the money?
 

wachie

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I'm starting to think that the desire to see Interstellar in IMAX was the issue over the weekend. Plus the length of the movie. Then again, family movies perform better over the weekend in the case of Big Hero 6.
Family movies dont crash on Monday either, they generally tend to hold better. And they also have the BEST increases on Tuesdays. We will see where today's numbers will come in at.
 

duckroll

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One good thing about the death of 70mm IMAX for the laser projection systems will be the end of that stupid fucking runtime limit.

I won't be sorry to see 70mm go because I don't have one here to begin with! :)

:(

I'm starting to think that the desire to see Interstellar in IMAX was the issue over the weekend. Plus the length of the movie. Then again, family movies perform better over the weekend in the case of Big Hero 6.

This could play into it. I only wanted to watch Interstellar in IMAX (granted it's only a digital IMAX here), and skipped the weekend screenings for a Monday night show because all the good seats were sold out. Even then, timing was a bitch because of how long the movie is.
 

deleted

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I think its a break even bomb. What's the point of spending millions of dollars and just getting back the money?

It still hasn't opened in lot's of places including Germany and the UK and is still to open in Russia and Brazil. No idea how much they will affect the BO, but there are still a few millions to be added.

I think it'll come out as a nice, small success. See: Riddick.
 

Matt_

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goddamn at these tuesday numbers

$10.5M for Big hero, 6.9 for Interstellar
Are the kids out of school? I feel like Big Hero is going to make outrageous amounts of money, definitely more than the $215M that bom predicted
 

-griffy-

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I was just looking at the box office again, and realized that 9 of the top 10 movies are "fresh" movies on Rotten Tomatoes (and Birdman hits at number 11), 8 of them "Certified Fresh" with no movie lower than 74% (which happens to be Interstellar). I wonder when was the last time such critically well regarded movies have dominated the box office like this.
 

overcast

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goddamn at these tuesday numbers

$10.5M for Big hero, 6.9 for Interstellar
Are the kids out of school? I feel like Big Hero is going to make outrageous amounts of money, definitely more than the $215M that bom predicted
Tuesday was Veterans Day, so no school.
 

kswiston

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Friday Studio Estimates:

1) Dumb and Dumber To - $14.2M
2) Interstellar - $8.3M - $77M total
3) Big Hero 6 - $8.0M - $84M total
4) Beyond the Lights - $2.3M
5) Gone Girl - $1.4M - $149M total
 

Tom_Cody

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Did you just make this turn of phrase up?

If it broke even, it's not a bomb.
Even if something breaks even, that doesn't mean that it was as successful as it optimally could have been or its investors wanted it to be. Opportunity cost, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost

Also, film accounting is extremely complicated. It is always strange when people point to a specific production cost number, match it with the WW gross, and then assume that they know they entire picture. To start with there are of course marketing costs. And financing is frequently split between multiple parties, with revenues split as well. Depending on how a film does domestically, internationally, or even in specific foreign countries, some parties might make a huge return while others lose their shirt. Etc, etc.
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To answer the question if it is a success, it is probably best to consider why it was made. My personal guess is that its star and producers had films like Taken and Jack Reacher in mind when it went into production. Those films each made over 200M internationally. And another similar film released this year, The Equalizer, is on the road to 200M+. That said, its reported budget is lower than those, but it's returns are looking pretty weak compared to even The Transporter series.
 

Tom_Cody

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That's not a "bomb" either.
I don't really care about semantics. And I never used the word bomb in my post.

I was just speaking more broadly as to if it should be considered a success or failure. As it looks right now, it is going to return much less than anyone involved could have wanted when they signed up for it and spent a year of their lives (roughly) making it.

To review my previous post:
1) It is not at all clear that it will "break even".
2) Even if everyone involved makes back the exact amount of money that they put in, this would still represents a failed investment in terms of time and money.
 
Oh well.

I don't think I have anything more to say.

To review the previous exchange.

Guy comes up with a phrase that is oxymoronic. If a movie breaks even, it's not a bomb. Bombs aren't just disappointments - they are clear, outright, impactful financial failures.

It was inherently a discussion about semantics. Its' not like it was even a complicated discussion. you could have fit both sides into a single tweet, probably.

You came in, tried to explain to me concepts I'm already fairly familiar with as a means to address my response, a response that is solely pursuing a semantic angle. When I tell you that the obvious thing you posted doesn't change what a bomb is either, you then tell me you're not interested in semantics, when that's the ONLY thing the entire exchange you were responding to was about.

Do you want to risk spending $37 million dollars just to make it back?

I would prefer to MAKE money, yes. But if I end up NOT in the hole, I didn't bomb. I broke even. I get to fight another day with the same 37 mil I had before I went on that adventure. Hopefully there will be things learned from that previous gamble that I can apply to a better result down the line.

But if I spend 37 mil on a movie, and it leaves theaters with 37 mil, I might be disappointed/heartbroken/annoyed/frustrated - but that doesn't mean my movie bombed. A break-even bomb is an oxymoron.
 

Mr.Swag

Banned
If an executive is constantly greenlighting films that just break even, they wouldn't have a job. Sure, mathematically speaking they didn't lose any money, but that's not what they were hired for.
 
If an executive is constantly greenlighting films that just break even, they wouldn't have a job. Sure, mathematically speaking they didn't lose any money, but that's not what they were hired for.

Again - if a film breaks even, it's not a bomb. You created a phrase that literally cancels itself out.

And an executive can withstand multiple (legitimate) bombs if they end up having one or two bonafide successes, as well. So long as the profits from those successes manage to mitigate any possible negatives from those bombs.
 
God I hate that I have to side with Bobby on this. You guys don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If a movie breaks even, it's not a bomb. Lay off the pipe, guys.
 
You can call it a disappointment, but bomb is the wrong word. Bomb implies significant financial loss or at the very least, some financial loss.

A good example is The Abyss. Disappointment for FOX, but it broke even and made its money back. That money might have only been 100k or so, but it wasn't a bomb.
 
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