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Wkd Box Office 12•18-20•15 - Force Awakens does good... gOOOood, opens w/ $248m

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guek

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plop said:
I disagree. He has an amazing eye for action, and is a fantastic visual storyteller. I wouldn't say he's a top ten director, but to say he's not great is a bit much, IMO (although that largely depends on how one defines "great").

He gets a lot of shit for aping the styles of other directors. Meanwhile, people can't nuzzle Tarantino's balls enough when literally everything he does is a ripoff of 70s Hong Kong cinema, blaxploitation, and spaghetti western. The only difference is that he makes "art," so his aping gets to be called "homage," while Abrams makes general audience fare, so it's pap from a copycat hack.
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I think the difference is that the closest thing Abrams has in the form of a signature style is a joke about lense flares whereas Tarantino, despite primarily making pastiches of various genre films, still manages to make his movies feel like they belong solely to him. The biggest running criticism about TFA is that it comes across as JJ Abrams Presents: A New Hope. That doesn't make it a bad movie in the slightest, but you can't say something similar about any of Tarantino's work. It's the difference between being inspired by an earlier work and being a slave to your inner fan. Abrams' greatest strength comes from his visual panache but that alone doesn't make him well rounded. But then again, I'd say he's more well rounded than the majority of directors in Hollywood.
 
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Bobby Roberts said:
I don't know if that's really the case, though. It was part of the marketing campaign back then, and there were articles specifically regarding the technological innovation and how it would enhance the 3D effect in a very noticeable, pleasing way.

People knew what it was. They just didn't LIKE IT.

The people pushing for HFR kinda sidestepped and began to say that the problem with the adoption was a combination of viewer inertia and choosing 48fps instead of 60.
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Even amongst my more nerdy friends few of them really know or more importantly care about HFR. The main thing is though whether people knew about it or not, it simply wasn't a selling point. Kinda like 3D before avatar. The question is whether HFR actually improves the experience or at the very least whether the people marketing avatar 2 can make people think it is.

I don't see it ever being a big draw like 3D was for the first avatar. That's not to say avatar 2 won't be huge, I'm just not sure HFR will be responsible for any sort of boost to its box office numbers.
 
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Cheebo said:
Looks like a 35-37 mil Monday. Yeah this thing is playing like a December movie with a massive summer opening. Best of both worlds.
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$35M off of $60.5M would actually be almost exactly the same drop that TDK had on that first Monday. Could just be spillover from the weekend + kids being out of school. Still too early to tell if the film's legs will be any better than a summer film with good legs (plus maybe $20M from inflated Xmas and New Years).

Still, good summer legs should be enough to beat Avatar. JW's multiplier is $775M for Star Wars.
 
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AdventureRacing said:
Even amongst my more nerdy friends few of them really know or more importantly care about HFR.
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They probably don't now because its first real shot at making an impression was a terrible one, and exhibitors and directors retreated almost immediately.

But before the Hobbit opened that format was absolutely part of the buzz.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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Chamber said:
I think Point Break hauling in 15-17m would the biggest shock of the weekend.

"I believe that, like me, the people behind these robberies are extreme atheletes."
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See, I was agreeing with you until you reminded me this film is stupid enough to not only have a line like that in it, but they considered it cool enough to put it in the trailer. Something that ridiculously dumb? Curiosity might get the better of me.
 
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guek

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$35 mil on a Monday is fucking nuts.

Did you guys know Crystals Skull made over $26 mil on its first Monday? I said damn.
 
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guek said:
$35 mil on a Monday is fucking nuts.

Did you guys know Crystals Skull made over $26 mil on its first Monday? I said damn.
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Crystal Skull's first Monday was Memorial Day. The record holder (Spiderman 2) was the day after the 4th of July. $35 million is $10 million more than the non-holiday record set by Jurassic World.
 
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TheKaeptain

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Chamber said:
I think Point Break hauling in 15-17m would the biggest shock of the weekend.

"I believe that, like me, the people behind these robberies are extreme athletes."
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That line in the trailer makes me laugh every single time.

Also, you don't remake classics like Point Break. You just don't.
 
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Cheebo

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You knew Avatar was going down when Sculli came in questioning why the domestic all time record is considered important. Even he has already accepted Abrams is about to take the box office crown that Cameron held for nearly 20 years.
 
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Calm waterfall

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I just checked the schedule of upcoming movies, and next year is superhero packed. 3 Xmen movies from Fox, BvS and SS from WB, Civil war and dr. Strange from Disney. I don´t think we have ever had that many superhero movies in one year. Universal does not have any superhero franchise, and it´s doing exceptionally well.

Next year seems to have plenty of blockbuster not including the superhero genre, like The Jungle Book, KFP 3, Alice, Finding Dory, SW spin off, Ghost Buster, Angry bird movie, King Arthur, Fantastic beasts and where to find them (trilogy, as if the WB, won´t milk anything Harry potter lol), Ride along 2, Warcraft, Borne Matt Damon movie, TMNT 2, Star Trek, etc.... Next year it will be a monster of a year, it seems. And i only mentioned these big budget movies (RA2 not withstanding).
 
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vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I'm seeing Star Wars tmrw in Imax due to cheapy Tuesday in Canada hope it's worth it!

Still expensive at $13 a ticket, but yahhhh reserved seating, I can breathe.
 
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Calm waterfall said:
I just checked the schedule of upcoming movies, and next year is superhero packed. 3 Xmen movies from Fox, BvS and SS from WB, Civil war and dr. Strange from Disney. I don´t think we have ever had that many superhero movies in one year. Universal does not have any superhero franchise, and it´s doing exceptionally well.

Next year seems to have plenty of blockbuster not including the superhero genre, like The Jungle Book, KFP 3, Alice, Finding Dory, SW spin off, Ghost Buster, Angry bird movie, King Arthur, Fantastic beasts and where to find them (trilogy, as if the WB, won´t milk anything Harry potter lol), Ride along 2, Warcraft, Borne Matt Damon movie, TMNT 2, Star Trek, etc.... Next year it will be a monster of a year, it seems. And i only mentioned these big budget movies (RA2 not withstanding).
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3 Xmen movies?
 
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Syfadious said:
Rth says 39-41. Insanity
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vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Calm waterfall said:
I just checked the schedule of upcoming movies, and next year is superhero packed. 3 Xmen movies from Fox, BvS and SS from WB, Civil war and dr. Strange from Disney. I don´t think we have ever had that many superhero movies in one year. Universal does not have any superhero franchise, and it´s doing exceptionally well.

Next year seems to have plenty of blockbuster not including the superhero genre, like The Jungle Book, KFP 3, Alice, Finding Dory, SW spin off, Ghost Buster, Angry bird movie, King Arthur, Fantastic beasts and where to find them (trilogy, as if the WB, won´t milk anything Harry potter lol), Ride along 2, Warcraft, Borne Matt Damon movie, TMNT 2, Star Trek, etc.... Next year it will be a monster of a year, it seems. And i only mentioned these big budget movies (RA2 not withstanding).
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King Arthur recently got its release date pushed back to 2017.

Gambit started shooting?
 
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Biggest-Geek-Ever

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Assuming $40M for today, I think the week will go something like this:

Tue: 40
Wed: 37
Thu: 24
Fri: 50
Sat: 57
Sun: 48

$155M second weekend, $544M 10 day total. If it doesn't slow down from there, $1B is happening.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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Like I said in another thread the other day, expecting a huge drop when kids are suddenly off school and everybody who isn't a die hard nerd can finally go see it is kind of weird.

The third weekend will be the one to watch for this film.
 
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BronsonLee said:
I'm watching Avatar right now and you know what, it's better than Force Awakens

By like a fucking country mile
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Well yeah. As far as blockbuster go, Avatar is the gold standard.

I mean, compare creepy orange lady from Star Wars to any of the CG characters in Avatar. You'd think TFA was the one that came out 6 years ago.
 
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