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Wkd Box Office 12•18-20•15 - Force Awakens does good... gOOOood, opens w/ $248m

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Solo

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Jarmel said:
I sorta wish the release schedule for these films was one every six months. An episode in the Summer and an Anthology film in the Winter.
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Please no. One a year is already arguably too much as far as brand dilution and quality control goes.

I know someone will cite Marvel Studios as an example, but I feel like most of their output proves my point.
 
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Kuros

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Solo said:
Principal photography on Episode VII only lasted 7 months. It's conceivable that Episode VIII could be in the can, principal photography-wise, but the end of May 2016.

It's the pre and post production that takes a bitch of a time, not the actual shooting.
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They also lost 4-5 weeks with Ford's broken leg.
 
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Jarmel

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Solo said:
Please no. One a year is already arguably too much as far as brand dilution and quality control goes.

I know someone will cite Marvel Studios as an example, but I feel like most of their output proves my point.
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If they can get on a decent production timeline and schedule, I don't see why not. It still wouldn't be anywhere near close to Marvel with their 4-5 films a year.
 
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Ancedotal evidence for sure, but I have never heard so many people that want to see a movie say they are waiting weeks to see it to avoid the crowds. These aren't your typical moviegoers like most of us, but people that see 2-4 movies a year. So many of them have specifically told me they are waiting until after the holidays to see it. I think the legs might be better than people expect.
 
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Bobby Roberts said:
They haven't really stopped since 1978, though. It might not be the EVERYTHING IS AN EVENT type thing they did this year, but of all the things I can see Disney keeping as consistent as absolutely possible, it's the merch.
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Well yea that's what I mean, the push was the biggest ever this year for Ep7, with Star Wars on every single product in a store (yoda grapes, etc). I just hope this isn't going to be a yearly thing seeing how far ahead we had big event pushes with force friday and such, and being bombarded with Star Wars on every product and wall we see. Hopefully this is going to be saved for the main episode films
 
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Jarmel said:
If they can get on a decent production timeline and schedule, I don't see why not. It still wouldn't be anywhere near close to Marvel with their 4-5 films a year.
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Marvel Studios currently puts out 2 films a year. They will begin doing 3 a year in 2017.

Current schedule for Star Wars is one per calendar year, alternating between episodes and spinoffs. I think that's a good schedule and avoids burnout.

While I'm sure they can get Star Wars on a Marvel-esque schedule and still find success, I'd rather they didn't. I can see burnout happening with Star Wars much quicker than Marvel's massive universe full of unique, iconic characters that can carry films on their own.
 
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Solo said:
I dont think that time was lost, they just shifted the shooting schedule around to shoot his stuff last.
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They definitely lost some time. Kasdan has been quoted as saying many of the leaks came from disgruntled employees during Ford's downtime.
 
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Jarmel said:
I sorta wish the release schedule for these films was one every six months. An episode in the Summer and an Anthology film in the Winter.
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Hah, I'm the opposite. I wish they'd knock out the new trilogy with a ~2 year cadence, and then move onto the anthology films. Tossing prequels into the mix before the new trilogy is over is just weird to me.

Monday's drop matching Avatar's is the big tell - this train isn't stopping. Amazing.
 
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Jarmel

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Anth0ny said:
Marvel Studios currently puts out 2 films a year. They will begin doing 3 a year in 2017.

Currently schedule for Star Wars is one per calendar year, alternating between episodes and spinoffs. I think that's a good schedule and avoids burnout.

While I'm sure they can get Star Wars on a Marvel-esque schedule and still find success, I'd rather they didn't. I can see burnout happening with Star Wars much quicker than Marvel's massive universe full of unique, iconic characters that can carry films on their own.
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I just checked the Phase 3 stuff, I didn't know about them delaying Captain Marvel to 2019. Oh god that film is still over three years out.

GhaleonEB said:
Hah, I'm the opposite. I wish they'd knock out the new trilogy with a ~2 year cadence, and then move onto the anthology films. Tossing prequels into the mix before the new trilogy is over is just weird to me.

Monday's drop matching Avatar's is the big tell - this train isn't stopping. Amazing.
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I sorta want the Anthology films more than the actual episode films.
 
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ahoyle77 said:
Ancedotal evidence for sure, but I have never heard so many people that want to see a movie say they are waiting weeks to see it to avoid the crowds. These aren't your typical moviegoers like most of us, but people that see 2-4 movies a year. So many of them have specifically told me they are waiting until after the holidays to see it. I think the legs might be better than people expect.
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This right here is exactly what I'm talking about. everyone I know is dying to see it but waiting
 
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LevelNth

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Wow, 3 more Avatar films? That seems aggressive for sequels that will be 8 years later to a film that doesn't seem to have maintained much interest.

I'm probably totally wrong but this seems like a stretch to me.
 
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Cheebo

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Dash_Riprock said:
I would love it if Disney moves Episode VIII to December just to see if Fox blinks.
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Seriously why do people keep saying this? That would be Disney just burning money for no reason. Merchandise $ > Box Office $, having it released the 40th anniversary of ANH is a huge huge marketing and merchandise tie in and helps boost everything. Not to mention the movie is filming in just a few weeks, its not like delaying it would give the movie more time to do anything.
 
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Cheebo said:
Seriously why do people keep saying this? That would be Disney just burning money for no reason. Merchandise $ > Box Office $, having it released the 40th anniversary of ANH is a huge huge marketing and merchandise tie in and helps boost everything. Not to mention the movie is filming in just a few weeks, its not like delaying it would give the movie more time to do anything.
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yup, those 4K releases of the original, unaltered trilogy to tie into the release of episode VIII is going to be great

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riotous said:
I gave in and bought all the existing steal books when I learned Fox permenantly owns the rights to A New Hope.
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Fox owns the distribution to Star Wars (77) permanently. They don't own the content of the film. Lucasfilm can change the content however they like. They just can't distribute whatever they do to it (further change, leave alone, revert completely, any stop inbetween there) without striking a deal with 20th Century Fox first. And 20th Century Fox can't distribute the film unless Disney and Lucasfilm agree to let it be distributed.

Now, the fact there's already been another blu-ray release from Fox, and a digital release from Disney, means they're absolutely up for mutually benefitting each other. So the original versions not seeing release has nothing to do with the distribution rights. It's 100 percent Disney/Lucasfilm's call.

So far as we know, those 4K remasters aren't the originals.

Doesn't mean they can't alter them (essentially make their own Despecialized Editions) at some point along the way.
 
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Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
Assuming $40M for today, I think the week will go something like this:

Tue: 40
Wed: 37
Thu: 24
Fri: 50
Sat: 57
Sun: 48

$155M second weekend, $544M 10 day total. If it doesn't slow down from there, $1B is happening.
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Gonna revise Wed to $35M and Thu to $23M. Otherwise I think that's the way it's gonna go. Discount Tuesday will prevently a decrease today.
 
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Road

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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=starwars.htm

Didn't know Attack of the Clones such bomba. Always only looked at Phantom Menace numbers.

The Force Awakens should be no. 2 by Sunday.

Also, it's not a record registered by BOM, but TFA at $288m has now the highest Domestic December (calendar) gross, beating Avatar's $283m.
 
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kswiston

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I think Tuesday will be somewhere around 38M. Amazing Spider-man's record should go down, even if the dip is twice my guess of -5%.

Wednesday's record is obviously not going down, but that non-opening Wednesday from Transformers 1 should finally fall. The non-opening Thursday will probably hold. Christmas Eve is not a strong day for films. Avatar dipped 32% on Thursday after mostly flat weekdays from Mon-Wed.
 
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riotous

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Bobby Roberts said:
Fox owns the distribution to Star Wars (77) permanently. They don't own the content of the film. Lucasfilm can change the content however they like. They just can't distribute whatever they do to it (further change, leave alone, revert completely, any stop inbetween there) without striking a deal with 20th Century Fox first. And 20th Century Fox can't distribute the film unless Disney and Lucasfilm agree to let it be distributed. .
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Thanks for the clarification; this gives me.... a new hope.
 
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kswiston

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Did anyone post the updated Worldwide total for The Force Awakens?

$610,776,417

Overseas Monday was >$41M.

EDIT: Answer is yes. A few posts above :p
 
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NealMcCauley

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I saw it again back home in the new local state of the art theater (for east TN). Plays much better in 2d. Not sold out but definitely 75% full. For a 12:50 show that's pretty damn good. Also saw more dressed up people than the Thursday imax.
 
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kswiston

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Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
I think it's actually very likely Star Wars tops a billion by Sunday. Overseas also added $42M on Monday, so if Star Wars tops $500M in the states by Sunday, it certainly will have overseas.
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Seems likely. Some of that will depend on local markets in France, Germany, etc though. I have no idea if any big local movies are set to launch this coming weekend.
 
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Branduil

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jett said:
Considering how they designed their logo, I think actually removing The Force Awakens would've been closer to their intention. :p
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I hate when they do that. It forces people to call movies names like "Star Trek '09" even though that isn't the actual title.
 
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