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Wkd Box Office 1218-2015 - Force Awakens does good... gOOOood, opens w/ $248m
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Ghost Protocol made $17M in limited release (425 venues) over the course of a week before opening on a Wednesday. GP's first Saturday in full release was also Xmas Eve with is actually a bad day for movies (evidenced by the fact that it actually dropped 35% from Friday). Not exactly an apples to apples comparison.
Also, Ghost Protocol actually had worse legs post-MLK day.
EDIT: Worse not better
EDIT: Read your post incorrectly.
Vault Dweller 111
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Wait next week we only count the weekend gross too?
Stupid question, but at what point does it just become how much the movie has made in total? People do go to the movies throughout the course of the week....
Stupid question, but at what point does it just become how much the movie has made in total? People do go to the movies throughout the course of the week....
Bobby Roberts
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Wkd in the title is short for Weekend.
hodayathink
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The movies opening wide next week should really be an issue (unless Point Break surprises the hell out of everyone), and there's nothing that even looks like it might be in contention for the #1 spot until the Ride Along 2 on Jan 15 (or if Republicans travel by the busload like Christians to see the Benghazi movie). That's where the winter legs on blockbusters come from. In the summer, there's a new blockbuster coming out every 2 weeks at worst. For December, nowadays there usually isn't another high profile movie until Mid January, and even now we're just starting to get possible blockbusters/high profile movies in February (Kingsman and 50 Shades this year). Though the 2016 high profile movies all leave something to be desired (Deadpool, Zoolander 2, Gods of Egypt).
Vault Dweller 111
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I know.
We count both. People will be tuning in to see the non-holiday non-opening Mon-Wed records (hopefully) fall. Jurassic World will probably hold onto Thursday.
Bobby Roberts
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Then I don't understand why you're asking why a thread specifically about Weekend B.O. would focus on the B.O. for that weekend.
With the mods cracking down on all the Star Wars BO threads (wish that happened from the start), I would imagine that this thread will get some use throughout the week for once.
HarryKS
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I'm not talking about the cast. I'm talking about the fans. It's an incorrect statement to say that blacks and women don't already care for Star Wars. Look at the cons and the people who talk about it in everyday life. Star Wars is universally loved by people from all walks of life. It also gave attention to strong black actors and women. There's nothing revolutionary about the new one. It's a bit of a lazy retread based on the current climate of social awareness to state that it's more progressive now than in the past, which is not the case since it has always been.
Vault Dweller 111
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I said next week.
Bobby Roberts
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Let's reset:
What is it you're actually asking.
So am I. You just quoted the entirety of the post. It's fairly clear, upon re-reading it, that I'm talking about the fanbase. The cast of the film being more diverse can (and likely will) bring in a more diverse fanbase.
The rest of your post is some rah-rah shit that doesn't accurately reflect the demographic make-up of the fandom, and the idea that there's nothing "revolutionary" about a Lucasfilm run by women, employing a multicultural story group, kicking off a Star Wars trilogy that will center on a woman and will likely feature an interracial relationship at its center is pretty much bullshit, especially when, again, your counterargument is not much more than the fandom equivalent of "we have some black friends already."
Well, okay. But you're probably gonna have a whole lot more now. And I don't know why that prospect is a bad thing, or at least bad enough for you to take issue with it.
Sorcerer
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Some movies are going to benefit from counter programing. Those who have no interest in Star Wars or simply cannot get tickets.
Vault Dweller 111
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Something dumb with an obvious answer that I'm embarrassed to ask again.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I wonder how The Big Short will play out, it seems like perfect counterprogramming to what is being offered throughout the holidays.
Bobby Roberts
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CrichtonKicks
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Hell, I'm not even talking "big" movies. I'm talking mid size stuff that usually still does well over the week between Christmas and New Years. Last year you had Unbroken, Into the Woods, and Night at the Museum. There isn't really any of that this year (Hateful 8 might qualify but it doesn't go wide until the following week) outside of maybe that Will Ferrell movie.
Vault Dweller 111
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No need to apologize.
Following the box office is more complicated than it seems.
hodayathink
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Ride Along 2 isn't THAT big of a movie. But yeah, the relatively larger scale family movies (outside of the Chipmunks) were probably rightfully scared of Star Wars and moved away. Which means we're stuck with Oscar hopefuls and counter-programming. And I'm not sure I see any of this year's Oscar hopefuls being breakout successes (and the ones with the best chance are waiting until January to open wide).
Charles Foster Kane
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low 240s looking likely. Apparantly it might take JW's WW record after all. lol
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Because Dec 2017, 18 and 19 is when Avatar 2 is projected to be released.
No one will want to go up against that, and Bob Iger did mention they wanted Episode VIII to be released in the usual Star Wars slot, May.
Bobby Roberts
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The only answer that usually gets brought up in response to that is potential competition from Avatar.
but then again, considering this movie just proved you can do Summer numbers (well, unprecedented numbers, PERIOD) in December, it's not a given that competition from Avatar would necessarily be hurtful to either film provided there's a couple weeks between their opens, maybe?
This whole shit is kinda uncharted territory.
I only made one thread. I promise.
Avatar 2 and Episode VIII opening at near the same time in December would be the biggest goddamned mess. I almost want to see it happen because what the hell kind of precedent do we have for something like that?
There's not really many worthwhile opening slots for a huge December film. Basically this weekend or last weekend. Early December is too far from Xmas. Might as well open a week earlier over Thanksgiving if the holidays aren't going to hit until your 4th weekend. The week of Xmas misses out on some of the holiday boost.
That said, Overseas is a bigger issue with regards to having two huge films launch in December.. Especially in China where protection periods would squeeze them together in the middle of January.
Bobby Roberts
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True.
I don't know. I'm starting to wonder, considering the ridiculous business American Sniper did earlier this year, Batman v. Superman in March, The Force Awakens turning December into June, whether we're rapidly approaching a future where the idea of "seasons" for ridiculous box-office just stops existing.
Just grab a date and shove people at it as hard as you can.
I don't know. I'm starting to wonder, considering the ridiculous business American Sniper did earlier this year, Batman v. Superman in March, The Force Awakens turning December into June, whether we're rapidly approaching a future where the idea of "seasons" for ridiculous box-office just stops existing.
Just grab a date and shove people at it as hard as you can.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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It's been a while since I've heard such universally positive word-of-mouth from my social circle. Everyone I know that has seen this has adored it.
Avatar 2 isn't making that current 2017 date…and after this massive ow, Bob will change his mind and want VIII (and IX) to be December/holiday movies going forward.
hodayathink
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The months left to "annex" at this point are January, February (maybe, 50 Shades opened pretty huge), September and October. I feel like January and September are going to be the last to fall, if only because if you have a movie big enough to open great in September, why not put it in August (and the same for January and December). It'll take someone being afraid of an Avatar/Star Wars level movie and giving it room for it to happen, but when those movies get moved, it's usually months and not weeks.
Edit: And looking it up, 50 Shades and American Sniper opened within 4 million of each other (89m vs. 85m), so if I consider one, I have to do both. I guess I just got caught up in the limited/wide release thing (technically opened in December, went wide for MLK weekend).
September is wide open.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
The Episode VIII vs Avatar 2 threads will be amazing. All 15 of them.
D:
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Prepare dem gifs.
BronsonLee
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i believe it's called the lost solar system: jurassic world 2
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Dinos vs The Cameron vs Star Wars
It ain't guna be pretty
It ain't guna be pretty
CassidyIzABeast
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the facts of life right here
My bad it's actually Star Wars vs Avatar (maybe) in 2017 and Jurassic World vs Avengers in 2018.
Calm waterfall
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It does not seem like SW is coming near of dethroning Avatar´s WW gross. It´s seems like it won´t out-gross Titanic either.
CrichtonKicks
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HoodWinked
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i think it will have legs i feel like alot of people avoided seeing it this week because of crowd.
Affeinvasion
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Avatar opened with like 77 million. Clearly a Faustian bargain allowed for it to reach the highs it did. It's waaaay to early to make any predictions regarding star wars's long-term legs.
Calm waterfall
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I am not sure if SW will hit 2 billion to be honest.
And Avatar ended grossing $780 million in the US, and $2.7 billion WW.
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