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[Bisnic]

Oh my god, back to ~60k? If i knew that would happened, I wouldn't have wasted 315k for 3 tokens yesterday. ;_; I expect the price to go lower a little, but not back to 60k. Ugh.
Well... that's ~135K down the toilet. Wee.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Hedged my bets and bought about 11 tokens (12 total, had one sitting in bags from before) this morning for roughly 61.5k each.

First time going below 1 million gold since like the end of Mists?

Gonna do the battle.net balance thing, buying a longer period of subscription. And then save some in case I need services.

 

[v1perz53]

Hah I kind of did the opposite of most of you and paid $60 for 3 tokens when they were selling for ~110k and put them on the AH, making ~330k gold. Bought 5 tokens from AH for today's ~63k with that gold, so I got $75 of blizzard balance for the $60 I paid, and have a bit of gold left over from the deal. Nothing crazy, but not too bad, basically a free month of WoW but I had to pay in advance.

 

[Teletraan1]

How are you buying 11 or 3 of these tokens? I have been trying for the last hour and can't even buy one.

 

[v1perz53]

Huh WTF. I logged on a random shaman on my 2nd account to do Valentines Day event and in his bags was the Kor'Kron Shaman transmog set. I've been wanting that for years and I did it a couple times but thought I never got it. Well that is a pleasant surprise...

 

[Angry Grimace]

I sold a Token yesterday for 115K because it was close enough for me to buy a Yak.

Honestly, was a totally better deal than the time Blizzard tricked me into buying a Blizzard Store mount I never use.

You are going to see a SHITLOAD of people leave the game because of the token price.

Nah. A sub to the game costs like 2 hours of minimum wages. Even current prices you have to be making like 60,000 gold an hour for it to be a better deal than just spending an hour of your wages on a sub, and if you were making 60,000 gold an hour you'd be gold capped in like a week.

 

[v1perz53]

Nah. A sub to the game costs like 2 hours of minimum wages. Even current prices you have to be making like 60,000 gold an hour for it to be a better deal than just spending an hour of your wages on a sub, and if you were making 60,000 gold an hour you'd be gold capped in like a week.

Well, you do have to consider that a huge portion of WoW's playerbase includes High School and College students, who don't have the option to just work a bit more to pay their sub, or who would choose to get a job to pay for it if they don't have one already versus just spending more free time playing a game. I know my High School didn't allow part time jobs, and my college job was work-study and applied directly to my tuition, so I would've loved a WoW token back then. Certainly at my age and financial situation now, a sub cost means little and is actually quite cheap, but I'm not so far removed from my college days of being UberPoor to know how this might've affected other younger players.

But it is irrelevant anyway, since the token is back down to normal values so I guess we will never find out what might've happened.

 

[cartographer]

Nah. A sub to the game costs like 2 hours of minimum wages. Even current prices you have to be making like 60,000 gold an hour for it to be a better deal than just spending an hour of your wages on a sub, and if you were making 60,000 gold an hour you'd be gold capped in like a week.

If you think of gold as something that must be farmed and must be spent, then sure. It's effectively passive income for me (2 minutes crafting potions two to three times a week, 2 minutes listing auctions 4 to 5 times a week), an added result from doing other things in-game.

I make more than I spend. If I pay for my sub with $15 on a sub, I save ~60k in-game that ultimately just sits in my bank, unused.

 

[Macrotus]

I never thought Id come to the WoW thread (because I never thought of going back to WoW) =P

Anyways, does anyone know if there was any kind of character service discount in the past 1 to 2 years?
The last time I remember was maybe during Pandaria. I think it was during June of whatever year and had a 50% discount.

I thought of trying WoW again if theres a chance that they would do realm transfer discounts. (need to move around 8 toons if I'm going back)

 

[Lomax]

Saying "normal values" is silly, we're less than a year removed from tokens normally costing 30-35k. 60k was as a result of the spike the first time we heard about the b.net credit change. In a few years a normal value of 100k will probably seem cheap. The token will never cost an amount that is "easy" to make, because then no one would buy them for money to get gold.

Also, prices bottomed out and are heading up rapidly again. I stand by what I've been saying for months now, I expect the stable NA price to be at or near 100k once this normalizes until the summer.

 

[Angry Grimace]

If you think of gold as something that must be farmed and must be spent, then sure. It's effectively passive income for me (2 minutes crafting potions two to three times a week, 2 minutes listing auctions 4 to 5 times a week), an added result from doing other things in-game.

I make more than I spend. If I pay for my sub with $15 on a sub, I save ~60k in-game that ultimately just sits in my bank, unused.

Sure, except at this point gold now has a conversion to actual money. The cost to buy a Spider Mount is literally like $300.

 

[cartographer]

Sure, except at this point gold now has a conversion to actual money. The cost to buy a Spider Mount is literally like $300.

Real money to gold has a value. Gold to real money has no value outside of selling gold against the ToS, as far as I know (or similar activities).

That 60k is doing nothing in my bank. $15 has little value to me. That extra 60k has effectively no value to me. Seems like the choice is clear for me.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Real money to gold has a value. Gold to real money has no value outside of selling gold against the ToS, as far as I know (or similar activities).

That 60k is doing nothing in my bank. $15 has little value to me. That extra 60k has effectively no value to me. Seems like the choice is clear for me.

This post makes basically no sense. You're essentially arguing that gold has no value because you personally have no interest in any of the goods or services it gives you, including the $15 it costs to subscribe.

 

[TheYanger]

Saying "normal values" is silly, we're less than a year removed from tokens normally costing 30-35k. 60k was as a result of the spike the first time we heard about the b.net credit change. In a few years a normal value of 100k will probably seem cheap. The token will never cost an amount that is "easy" to make, because then no one would buy them for money to get gold.

Also, prices bottomed out and are heading up rapidly again. I stand by what I've been saying for months now, I expect the stable NA price to be at or near 100k once this normalizes until the summer.

They have literally ALWAYS cost an amount that is 'easy' to make.

You can make the current price by simply doing class hall gold missions dilligently on like 2 characters.

Never underestimate how much super casual players with more money than time overvalue gold.

I've lost all my gold in GCG down to like 150k about...2.5 months ago? and was back up to 800k a few days ago, and I Don't do fucking ANYTHING to earn gold, just sell random crap I find. It's always been like that.

I never thought Id come to the WoW thread (because I never thought of going back to WoW) =P

Anyways, does anyone know if there was any kind of character service discount in the past 1 to 2 years?
The last time I remember was maybe during Pandaria. I think it was during June of whatever year and had a 50% discount.

I thought of trying WoW again if theres a chance that they would do realm transfer discounts. (need to move around 8 toons if I'm going back)

You can pay for it with wow tokens now? Also why the need to transfer around a ton of characters? Just let those alts wither and die, it's easier to level new ones and can be fun too. They're all 'behind' at this point if it's been years.

 

[Spiritwalker]

Damn, it's back at 150k now. Guess I'll wait and see if it drops again.

 

[Mupod]

I only log in for raids and mythic+ yet I've somehow hovered around 220k for months. I don't even care enough to start missions anymore.

 

[Lomax]

This post makes basically no sense. You're essentially arguing that gold has no value because you personally have no interest in any of the goods or services it gives you, including the $15 it costs to subscribe.

No, he's saying 60k in the bank that is doing nothing but sitting has no value, because having it or not is identical to him in game. There's no interest, there's constant inflation, so why not just spend it on a token, even if $15 is easy to come by, there's other things he can do with it. Which is why there was a spike with this change, suddenly people with more gold than they'll ever need had new motivation to buy tokens.

They have literally ALWAYS cost an amount that is 'easy' to make.

You can make the current price by simply doing class hall gold missions dilligently on like 2 characters.

Never underestimate how much super casual players with more money than time overvalue gold.

I've lost all my gold in GCG down to like 150k about...2.5 months ago? and was back up to 800k a few days ago, and I Don't do fucking ANYTHING to earn gold, just sell random crap I find. It's always been like

I'm aware, I have tons of gold too, I'm not saying it's hard to make. But you play a ton, as does almost everyone in this thread, and that means a lot more than you think. The average player does not have millions of gold or even hundreds of thousands of gold, especially new players. Thus why people continue to spend real money on gold via tokens. And again, it's extremes on both ends. I'd wager 99% of players don't buy *or* sell tokens.

 

[Macrotus]

You can pay for it with wow tokens now? Also why the need to transfer around a ton of characters? Just let those alts wither and die, it's easier to level new ones and can be fun too. They're all 'behind' at this point if it's been years.

The last time I played was around 1.5 years ago.
I remember levelling most of my toons to 100 and then quitting.
Most of them are at level 100 and with all profession maxed out.
So I can basically cover all professions without the need to ask some one and tip them.
Also considering all the rare recipes I've collected for those profession and rare spawn hunter pets, etc., the list keeps on growing.

So when considering the above, they aren't "that" far behind.
And leveling a new toon from scratch will be too much.

I know you can spend wow tokens > convert it to balance > pay for transfers.
That really doesn't change anything.
It really doesn't change the fact that I'll be paying around $200 for character transfers.

Even if its a token bought with gold, theoretically speaking, if I used the tokens/Balance for subs
which would be a total of 2 year+ worth of subs if I buy the "6 months/77.94USD sub", that would I mean I saved up a decent amount of money, which I can spend else where.

So I'd rather get a discount on character transfers.
I'm not in a hurry, so I'd be happy if they do a discount some time during this year at least once.
I don't think a 50% discount will happen ever again, so 25% would be ok.

-Edited-
Forgot to say, thanks for the advice though. Suggestions/advice is always appreciated.

 

[cartographer]

This post makes basically no sense. You're essentially arguing that gold has no value because you personally have no interest in any of the goods or services it gives you, including the $15 it costs to subscribe.

I didn't argue that gold has no value overall. I've made it fairly clear that I am talking about my experience, my gold income and expenditures, and how I play the game. I said "for me" or something similar multiple times. Don't know how else to phrase it.

I said I (note, "I") make more gold than I spend (and I do spend gold: repairs, items, mounts, ridiculously transmog binges etc). Gold beyond those costs does nothing for me ("for me"). Could I use it on things in-game that I don't want or need? Sure. But why would I? It sits in my bank, doing nothing.

I did say that while real money to gold has an actual conversion value, gold to real money does not outside of methods against the TOS. As far as I know, that's still the case. But I didn't play for a while, so maybe I'm missing something here.

No, he's saying 60k in the bank that is doing nothing but sitting has no value, because having it or not is identical to him in game. There's no interest, there's constant inflation, so why not just spend it on a token, even if $15 is easy to come by, there's other things he can do with it. Which is why there was a spike with this change, suddenly people with more gold than they'll ever need had new motivation to buy tokens.

This is a good summation.

 

[Lomax]

To a certain extent the gold to b.net credit change does open up a gray area for conversion to cash, you can now sell people gifts of games like Diablo 3 or Overwatch that you bought with credit from WoW gold. I don't think that would be against any TOS.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

The last time I played was around 1.5 years ago.
I remember levelling most of my toons to 100 and then quitting.
Most of them are at level 100 and with all profession maxed out.
So I can basically cover all professions without the need to ask some one and tip them.
Also considering all the rare recipes I've collected for those profession and rare spawn hunter pets, etc., the list keeps on growing.

So when considering the above, they aren't "that" far behind.
And leveling a new toon from scratch will be too much.

I know you can spend wow tokens > convert it to balance > pay for transfers.
That really doesn't change anything.
It really doesn't change the fact that I'll be paying around $200 for character transfers.

Even if its a token bought with gold, theoretically speaking, if I used the tokens/Balance for subs
which would be a total of 2 year+ worth of subs if I buy the "6 months/77.94USD sub", that would I mean I saved up a decent amount of money, which I can spend else where.

So I'd rather get a discount on character transfers.
I'm not in a hurry, so I'd be happy if they do a discount some time during this year at least once.
I don't think a 50% discount will happen ever again, so 25% would be ok.

-Edited-
Forgot to say, thanks for the advice though. Suggestions/advice is always appreciated.

My advice would be to just focus on a handful of characters, and pick just one or two to "fully" play. 8 is more than any sane person can manage effectively in Legion. You can't really use alts as profession mules nearly as easily without putting a lot of work into them this expansion (at least besides gathering.) I understand being connected to characters, but surely not all of your alts have the same level of investment - again, just pick a few you care about the most.

This is coming from someone with 12 100+ characters by the end of WoD, and despite most of them being on the same server, I've only managed to level 4 to 110, and really just managed to focus on 1 for Mythic raiding.

That's my short answer.

 

[Macrotus]

8 is more than any sane person can manage effectively in Legion. You can't really use alts as profession mules nearly as easily without putting a lot of work into them this expansion (at least besides gathering.)

This is coming from someone with 12 100+ characters by the end of WoD, and despite most of them being on the same server, I've only managed to level 4 to 110, and really just managed to focus on 1 for Mythic raiding.

I wasn’t aware of that. Haven’t gathered information for Legion at all.
I only remember that the Garrisons made it efficient for profession mules and I was able to cover everything easily, but I guess its not the case for Legion.

I understand being connected to characters, but surely not all of your alts have the same level of investment - again, just pick a few you care about the most.

I guess I can remove a few from my transfer list if I were to start playing again, since it sounds like its really time consuming to manage alts this expansion. Especially when reading that you used to have 12 alts at 100+ and now only 4.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[ThirdEngine]

I'm wanting to finish up some reputation achievements in order to get the Argent Charger mount - can I spam the dungeon finder on Heroic while wearing a tabard for that? Any tips on the fastest way to grind these? Thanks in advance.

 

[Tacitus_]

I'm wanting to finish up some reputation achievements in order to get the Argent Charger mount - can I spam the dungeon finder on Heroic while wearing a tabard for that? Any tips on the fastest way to grind these? Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure if the rep tabards work on the newest dungeons. Besides, you could just go through the old dungeons oneshotting everything. As long as you don't repeat one dungeon, you can keep doing it all day. If you repeat a single dungeon, you'll hit the too "many instances" instance limit.

 

[Angry Grimace]

No, he's saying 60k in the bank that is doing nothing but sitting has no value, because having it or not is identical to him in game. There's no interest, there's constant inflation, so why not just spend it on a token, even if $15 is easy to come by, there's other things he can do with it. Which is why there was a spike with this change, suddenly people with more gold than they'll ever need had new motivation to buy tokens.



I'm aware, I have tons of gold too, I'm not saying it's hard to make. But you play a ton, as does almost everyone in this thread, and that means a lot more than you think. The average player does not have millions of gold or even hundreds of thousands of gold, especially new players. Thus why people continue to spend real money on gold via tokens. And again, it's extremes on both ends. I'd wager 99% of players don't buy *or* sell tokens.

Except that has nothing to do with the claim that gold doesn't have value because its a self-defeating argument if you're buying WoW tokens with it. That notwithstanding, the fact it doesn't convert directly into U.S. tender and/or you don't like any of the goods it buys doesn't mean it has no value.

You're converting something in-game into something that you otherwise have no way to obtain other than paying money.

 

[jaundicejuice]

I got 90+k for my token, and checking the shop, the price has dropped to 79k. Not bad, I guess. Didn't capitalise on the maximum value but still got a fair price for it.

 

[cartographer]

Except that has nothing to do with the claim that gold doesn't have value because its a self-defeating argument if you're buying WoW tokens with it. That notwithstanding, the fact it doesn't convert directly into U.S. tender and/or you don't like any of the goods it buys doesn't mean it has no value.

You're converting something in-game into something that you otherwise have no way to obtain other than paying money.

Nobody has claimed that gold is devoid of any value though. You are arguing against a claim nobody is making.

 

[jaundicejuice]

The last time I played was around 1.5 years ago.
I remember levelling most of my toons to 100 and then quitting.
Most of them are at level 100 and with all profession maxed out.
So I can basically cover all professions without the need to ask some one and tip them.
Also considering all the rare recipes I've collected for those profession and rare spawn hunter pets, etc., the list keeps on growing.

So when considering the above, they aren't "that" far behind.
And leveling a new toon from scratch will be too much.

WoD professions were so much easier to manage because it was simply a matter of logging in, creating your daily allotment of profession currency, create the token to buy a recipe, run around to your buildings, gather their output, place new orders, gather your garrison resources and log out. With Legion professions are pushed to the end-game, there's no quick catch-up mechanics in Legion like there are in WoD, profession recipes are gated behind questing, some of which involves running dungeons or PVE, and recipe tier skill ups (there are three tiers to each craft) are gated behind pure rng, pvp, available for purchase off of random vendors in the world, faction merchants that require a certain rep level to simply purchase and more.

Long story short, professions are much more involved in Legion. You cannot simply have a toon in every class at cap and have their Legion profession maxed out. You have to seriously play a character.

 

[Macrotus]

profession recipes are gated behind questing, some of which involves running dungeons or PVE, and recipe tier skill ups (there are three tiers to each craft) are gated behind pure rng, pvp, available for purchase off of random vendors in the world, faction merchants that require a certain rep level to simply purchase and more.

Thanks for the in-depth explanation.
I can imagine how much effort I’d need to put in. Seems like ALOT of work...
And I can’t imagine myself capping professions on all 8 toons from reading your post…
I guess I'll have to choose.

 

[Einchy]

Gotten a few 14%-ish wipes on Mythic Krosus, wouldn't surprise me if we get a kill this week but it also wouldn't surprise me if we don't. That last bridge is pretty tricky.

[edit]

14% with not a single death. Tank doesn't soak slam.

Then he releases.

FML

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

my guild wiped on Mythic Chrono like 8 times before downing it today, then did Trill in one shot.

Is Trill easier?

 

[vocab]

my guild wiped on Mythic Chrono like 8 times before downing it today, then did Trill in one shot.

Is Trill easier?

I would say so. Chrono is really a dumb fight and easy to wipe on.

 

[Dog Problems]

I've been trying to do this "Fistful of Love" achievement for the Love is in the Air event and I cannot find a troll rogue. I've waited by the entrance to the rogue class hall, circled Dalaran repeatedly, even hung out at Echo Isles and haven't seen one. Plenty of rogues for every other race, even Pandaren which I thought were supposed to be rare. Such an annoying achievement.

 

[B-Dubs]

I've been trying to do this "Fistful of Love" achievement for the Love is in the Air event and I cannot find a troll rogue. I've waited by the entrance to the rogue class hall, circled Dalaran repeatedly, even hung out at Echo Isles and haven't seen one. Plenty of rogues for every other race, even Pandaren which I thought were supposed to be rare. Such an annoying achievement.

I'm guessing Alliance? Try sneaking into Orgrimmar.

 

[Dog Problems]

I'm guessing Alliance? Try sneaking into Orgrimmar.

Yeah, Alliance. I was avoiding Orgrimmar because of how quickly I get killed by guards but at this point I don't even care.

Edit: On my way to Orgrimmar I stopped by Echo Isles and saw a level one. Guards got me but I unlocked the achievement.

 

[jaundicejuice]

Thanks for the in-depth explanation.
I can imagine how much effort I’d need to put in. Seems like ALOT of work...
And I can’t imagine myself capping professions on all 8 toons from reading your post…
I guess I'll have to choose.

Honestly professions are worse off in Legion than they were in WoD. My biggest issue with WoD professions were being constrained by the daily profession currency generation and the drip feed your buildings would provide rather than your own ability to gather. But by the time I hit cap in WoD I'd been constantly crafting and making stuff whereas in Legion I've made exactly nine things by the time I hit cap and that's with being fairly rigorous with gathering crafting mats.

Professions were something I invested myself in with WoD but I can't say the same of Legion.

 

[fireatwill]

Not a bad week so far. My DH got her 2nd legendary (Metamorphosis shoulders) and my Lock got her first legendary (Agony helm)

No luck on on tier pieces for any of my characters though.

I also learned that I don't think I have any desire to tank. so far it just seems to stressful. I think it's because I'm still learning and don't really know what all my tanking abilities are.

 

[jaundicejuice]

Not a bad week so far. My DH got her 2nd legendary (Metamorphosis shoulders) and my Lock got her first legendary (Agony helm)

No luck on on tier pieces for any of my characters though.

I also learned that I don't think I have any desire to tank. so far it just seems to stressful. I think it's because I'm still learning and don't really know what all my tanking abilities are.

Just screw around with the tank spec while doing WQ's or whatever, you should figure things out pretty quickly.

 

[v1perz53]

Hah, every time I do the "barrels of fun" kirin tor quest and the NPC says "bah, lucky", if only he knew...

Anyway, I don't have a pure DPS alt, and I've been thinking of trying Rogue for a while but I can't decide what spec to play. It would be probably primarily a PvP character, but with a solid amount of PvE and soloing as well. I've always preferred Combat, and I like outlaw in terms of theme and weapons, but it seems to be hyper-variable in terms of output and looked at as the worst spec in PvP. Assass seems to be DPS FotM in both PvE and PvP, but probably the least interesting playstyle to me and possibly the worst AoE for Mythic+? Sub has a lot of cool things and great mobility, but a very weird rotation and playstyle that I'm not sure if I like or dislike.

Leaning towards sub, anyone who plays rogue found any of the specs to be way more fun than the others?

 

[dimb]

Leaning towards sub, anyone who plays rogue found any of the specs to be way more fun than the others?

Don't go to Rogue if you want to have fun. Assassination is extremely boring and hands off. Outlaw is really frustrating. Sub is the least offensive I guess but it's really not going to excite anyone who has familiarity with other melee classes.

 

[Data West]

You can finally tame knife crab?

 

[cartographer]

Hah, every time I do the "barrels of fun" kirin tor quest and the NPC says "bah, lucky", if only he knew...

Anyway, I don't have a pure DPS alt, and I've been thinking of trying Rogue for a while but I can't decide what spec to play. It would be probably primarily a PvP character, but with a solid amount of PvE and soloing as well. I've always preferred Combat, and I like outlaw in terms of theme and weapons, but it seems to be hyper-variable in terms of output and looked at as the worst spec in PvP. Assass seems to be DPS FotM in both PvE and PvP, but probably the least interesting playstyle to me and possibly the worst AoE for Mythic+? Sub has a lot of cool things and great mobility, but a very weird rotation and playstyle that I'm not sure if I like or dislike.

Leaning towards sub, anyone who plays rogue found any of the specs to be way more fun than the others?

I haven't played Sin much in Legion, but what I have done was boring and it's always been boring to me. Sub can be fun but I don't think it really stands out from other melee classes, as previously mentioned.

I really like Outlaw, but it definitely can be frustrating, especially if you primarily raid. In M+, a lot of the issues are mitigated at least in part by 1) MfD getting a lot of value on trash and 2) bosses die faster than raid bosses, so you spend less time outside of burn phase (in which you shouldn't be rerolling). It's one of those specs you can either deal with or not, but it's worth trying I think.

 

[Bregor]

Don't go to Rogue if you want to have fun. Assassination is extremely boring and hands off. Outlaw is really frustrating. Sub is the least offensive I guess but it's really not going to excite anyone who has familiarity with other melee classes.

Poor advice IMO. Assassination is in a fine state. It produces superb single target DPS, with passable 'cleave' DPS. It's AOE isn't that great, but that's not what the spec was made for. Ever since Exsanguinate has fallen out of favor it has become easier to play (which is either good or bad depending on your point of view). The DPS cycle feels smooth and complete.

Outlaw is a mostly great spec for AOE, and cleave. It works superb in Mythic plus runs. It's single target DPS doesn't measure up to Assassination, but isn't terrible. The main drawback, however is that Roll the Bones RNG can lead to frustration on occasion.

I haven't really played Sub but my understanding is that while it basically matches Assassination in DPS, the DPS cycle is harder to execute and feels clunkier.

 

[fireatwill]

Just screw around with the tank spec while doing WQ's or whatever, you should figure things out pretty quickly.

I've been doing the demon hunter class hall bosses regularly and have been able to solo them without issue. 1 on 1 tank fights I can handle, but I get stressed out when I have a bunch of things I need to hold aggro on.

I figure I should jump in the deep end and sign up for a LFR as a tank. if I get kicked, meh

Don't go to Rogue if you want to have fun. Assassination is extremely boring and hands off. Outlaw is really frustrating. Sub is the least offensive I guess but it's really not going to excite anyone who has familiarity with other melee classes.

I pretty much agree with this. Outlaw is extremely frustrating when you don't get a good roll. Start of the fight, when i have 6 combo points, it gives me a single buff. Then when the boss is at 2%, it will decide to give me all 6 buffs.
Assassination was super boring. just keep up a few dots and spam mutilate and envenom. I haven't tried Sub yet

 

[Magnus]

Yanger, how'd you make 600k in just a couple months by just selling things without much effort? Granted, I get a bunch from endorsing junk and selling the occasional BoEs that come up, but nowhere near that much.

Right now, my gold income is:
- Like 2k a day from class hall missions on average (there are no gold missions some days, and when there are, with a bonus, they're worth like 2200 or 2300)
- The occasional 700g from an Emissary chest, 3x a week on average
- Vendoring junk/BoEs
- Alchemy: The most worthwhile thing to do with Bloods seems to be just making Potions of Prolonged Power, right?
- Enchanting: Either selling epic crystals directly, or making enchant scrolls with them if the sale cost is a good deal higher than the crafting cost (profit of at least 1k to be worthwhile)

(Flasks don't seem that worthwhile anymore; the mat costs are too high compared to what the flasks sell for, even when I seem to proc at an average rate of 1.5x)

I seem to climb like...a net 15k a week, tops. Probably because I spend a bunch on Seals for alts....but I can't think of what else I spend gold on. Why am I making so little? Lol

 

[Anbokr]

you get so many order resources/bloods by just playing the game that you can just sell the order resource mates (though save some for 7.2) and if you're an alchemist you can just churn out prolonged powers and reign in that cash money

very little effort

 

[It's Reyn Time!]

It's so frustrating trying to get Epicus Maximus down in the Brawler's guild at my gear level as a BM Hunter. I've specced purely for single target DPS, I'm using every buff available to me, using a corehound for ancient hysteria, getting lucky with procs and nailing my rotation and still coming up 5-8m health short. What makes it worse is seeing people 15 item levels below me breezing through it with time to spare. BM single target is so god damned broken right now.

 

[v1perz53]

Yanger, how'd you make 600k in just a couple months by just selling things without much effort? Granted, I get a bunch from endorsing junk and selling the occasional BoEs that come up, but nowhere near that much.

Right now, my gold income is:
- Like 2k a day from class hall missions on average (there are no gold missions some days, and when there are, with a bonus, they're worth like 2200 or 2300)
- The occasional 700g from an Emissary chest, 3x a week on average
- Vendoring junk/BoEs
- Alchemy: The most worthwhile thing to do with Bloods seems to be just making Potions of Prolonged Power, right?
- Enchanting: Either selling epic crystals directly, or making enchant scrolls with them if the sale cost is a good deal higher than the crafting cost (profit of at least 1k to be worthwhile)

(Flasks don't seem that worthwhile anymore; the mat costs are too high compared to what the flasks sell for, even when I seem to proc at an average rate of 1.5x)

I seem to climb like...a net 15k a week, tops. Probably because I spend a bunch on Seals for alts....but I can't think of what else I spend gold on. Why am I making so little? Lol

I made 60k last week from 2x maxed toons doing order hall gold missions, plus my other less maxed toons gold missions. According to my gold tracking addon, last month I made ~20k from "quests" (assuming WQs), 32k from "loot" (probably opening emissary boxes and other random sources of gold) and ~17k from "merchants" which I guess is vendoring random stuff? So that would be ~310k in a month totally passively, without including anything that I randomly threw on the AH, which would add a healthy amount to that. This info is an aggregate of all my toons, but I play 2 110s seriously and the rest barely at all, definitely no emissaries on other toons. Can't be more explicit than that though, my addon doesn't seem to give more details. Not quite the 600k Yanger makes, but definitely a healthy passive amount and more than enough to pay for my sub passively if I wanted to.

Also, thank the lord jesus, got my Prot Pal's hidden appearance from my 2nd Withered Training so no pressure to constantly do that on him.

 

[Data West]

Is anyone else watching Polygon's Peacecraft videos?

 

[cartographer]

Yanger, how'd you make 600k in just a couple months by just selling things without much effort? Granted, I get a bunch from endorsing junk and selling the occasional BoEs that come up, but nowhere near that much.

Right now, my gold income is:
- Like 2k a day from class hall missions on average (there are no gold missions some days, and when there are, with a bonus, they're worth like 2200 or 2300)
- The occasional 700g from an Emissary chest, 3x a week on average
- Vendoring junk/BoEs
- Alchemy: The most worthwhile thing to do with Bloods seems to be just making Potions of Prolonged Power, right?
- Enchanting: Either selling epic crystals directly, or making enchant scrolls with them if the sale cost is a good deal higher than the crafting cost (profit of at least 1k to be worthwhile)

(Flasks don't seem that worthwhile anymore; the mat costs are too high compared to what the flasks sell for, even when I seem to proc at an average rate of 1.5x)

I seem to climb like...a net 15k a week, tops. Probably because I spend a bunch on Seals for alts....but I can't think of what else I spend gold on. Why am I making so little? Lol

Just speaking to alchemy: Prolonged Power is usually the best for me, but right now Fjarny is the most lucrative thing to do with bloods on my server. Bot ban seemed to hit that herb the most. And yeah, flasks tend to be fairly small margins at this point (Tuesday and Wednesday not as bad as the rest of the week though).

edit: Sometimes Starlight Rose is a decent proposition with bloods but in my experience it tends to be fairly volatile.