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World of Warcraft |OT9| People still play this? Isn't it from 2004

Mupod

Member
Highest eye I've done was a 13 and with a shadow priest the second boss is probably harder than the last lol

The last boss can randomly drop aggro so I've been melted into cauterize and have had to block for a taunt, then immediately be switched to again after block is over and die

Once you know the aoe is physical damage the boss really isn't hard with a good comp, had a priest disperse one and was perfect fine as well

Main thing is just the bosses melee but you can do some stuff to mitigate the tank damage etc I think the regular aoe damage that goes out is fine but that's literally only going off my 13 I don't know anyone who's even gotten a 15 eye key

I don't recall it dropping aggro, but your tank might have been launched by a tornado or stepped slightly out of range.

realizing everything was physical damage helped a LOT but our group is blood/mistweaver/ret/feral and a BM/marks hunter. Not sure what kind of tricks we can use other than BoP/divine shield for the split damage attack. We're in the 865-872 range. We also don't do the 'good comp' thing, this is just what we have and we work with it.

We never had any trouble with the sea witch or serpent (which is super easy). Deepbeard got hairy at the end but no wipes. Parjesh is very tough, our healer said either the boss or adds were putting a nasty dot on people and it was hurting his mana. But I'm quite good at aiming his charge and positioning adds now so I'm confident we could handle it better next time (if there is a next time).

Eye might be one of the only instances where I'd rather have the trash boosting affix over Tyrannical. There's like one problematic trash pull and even the double giants aren't that bad.
 

Tarazet

Member
Switch to holy? I mean really Disc needs some help before I would advise you to try and take it in as a healer. Not only is the spec in need of some QoL but I would not call it at all new player friendly in terms of how it plays. So if you have never healed before yeah Holy is easy and has a great tool box.

Play Discipline only if you are prepared to live up to the name. It is utterly terrifying to play and to me, that is stressful but also satisfying. I make my living playing classical piano, so it's in my nature to walk on a metaphorical tightrope. The class has the tools to do the job, and it is the best tank healer bar none. Clarity of Will is godly.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
I unlocked the hidden Undead Pandaren race.
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Tarazet

Member
Is there actually pvp happening for you guys in those tower WQs? I usually dont do them these days but I did one yesterday on the druid because I wanted the 805 relic (lol she was a fresh 110!) and there was noone around, it might aswell be a normal pve quest.

In the free for all zones sure, you'll see people around. If it's a regular PvP quest, the opposite faction has no skin in the game because they don't have quests there at the same time. Weird decision making on their part.
 

Milennia

Member
I don't recall it dropping aggro, but your tank might have been launched by a tornado or stepped slightly out of range.

realizing everything was physical damage helped a LOT but our group is blood/mistweaver/ret/feral and a BM/marks hunter. Not sure what kind of tricks we can use other than BoP/divine shield for the split damage attack. We're in the 865-872 range. We also don't do the 'good comp' thing, this is just what we have and we work with it.

We never had any trouble with the sea witch or serpent (which is super easy). Deepbeard got hairy at the end but no wipes. Parjesh is very tough, our healer said either the boss or adds were putting a nasty dot on people and it was hurting his mana. But I'm quite good at aiming his charge and positioning adds now so I'm confident we could handle it better next time (if there is a next time).

Eye might be one of the only instances where I'd rather have the trash boosting affix over Tyrannical. There's like one problematic trash pull and even the double giants aren't that bad.

I would rather have fortified for every instance even nelths, tyrannical is much harder in there if not only for the boss health and timer. At least with fortified you can just bring stuns to every instance, even DHT is actually doable with fortified.
 

CaptainHans

Neo Member
Play Discipline only if you are prepared to live up to the name. It is utterly terrifying to play and to me, that is stressful but also satisfying. I make my living playing classical piano, so it's in my nature to walk on a metaphorical tightrope. The class has the tools to do the job, and it is the best tank healer bar none. Clarity of Will is godly.

Ok this I can agree with and I am slowly building my Discipline gear set. The other thing holding me back is that the current group I raid with does not have the right healing core to allow me to make the switch as well. I really do prefer the style that disc has but until I know the raid makeup will support me switching I am stuck in holy.

I do stand by the thoughts that if you have never healed before jumping into it as disc would be a risk and could be all kinds of scary.
 

RPGCrazied

Member
Lame, court of stars and archway are mythic only? This better not affect the quest line for the saber mount if I can't go into these dungeons. I just unlocked these 2 dungeons and have quests to kill bosses in there.
 

Robin64

Member
Lame, court of stars and archway are mythic only? This better not affect the quest line for the saber mount if I can't go into these dungeons. I just unlocked these 2 dungeons and have quests to kill bosses in there.

The Suramar storyline doesn't require those dungeons, luckily. You can ignore those quests if you don't plan on doing Mythics and continue on just fine. You will need to do Emerald Nightmare on at least LFR, though.
 

RPGCrazied

Member
The Suramar storyline doesn't require those dungeons, luckily. You can ignore those quests if you don't plan on doing Mythics and continue on just fine. You will need to do Emerald Nightmare on at least LFR, though.

You do? Why? I've only done the first wing of EN so far. Why is that connected to Suramar?
 

Robin64

Member
You do? Why? I've only done the first wing of EN so far. Why is that connected to Suramar?

They decided that Loremaster this time needed players to do a raid, for some reason, so one quest for Suramar requires you to get something from the Emerald Dream after defeating Xavius.
 

RPGCrazied

Member
They decided that Loremaster this time needed players to do a raid, for some reason, so one quest for Suramar requires you to get something from the Emerald Dream after defeating Xavius.

What quest? Maybe I did it already, or do you have to do the whole thing?
 

Robin64

Member
What quest? Maybe I did it already, or do you have to do the whole thing?

The quest is "The Stuff of Dreams", which is the end of a chain that appears at 7000/21000 Revered. It's required to finish the Growing Crisis storyline, and thus Good Suramaritan.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Withered is so ez mode on a tank. Like I knew it always was but doing it the first time on my Brewmaster for the quest, with 5 withered, i cleared the first 3 bosses with no issues. You can paralyse Dro infinitely as a Monk
 

Xeteh

Member
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. I didn't level one of my champions at all and its the only one I can use for this class hall quest mission. Its 102 and the mission is 108.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
just found out I skipped over a class order hall upgrade (some garden bullshit) and thats how you get the resto hidden skin ;_;

and it costs a bunch of resources and days to change it ;_;

and im already doing another one which takes 7 days ;_;
 

Xeteh

Member
just found out I skipped over a class order hall upgrade (some garden bullshit) and thats how you get the resto hidden skin ;_;

and it costs a bunch of resources and days to change it ;_;

and im already doing another one which takes 7 days ;_;

If it makes you feel any better that thing is buggy as hell. They just had to fix it because apparently entering a timewalking dungeon reset whatever you had planted.
 

TheYanger

Member
I would rather have fortified for every instance even nelths, tyrannical is much harder in there if not only for the boss health and timer. At least with fortified you can just bring stuns to every instance, even DHT is actually doable with fortified.

Yeah Tyrannical makes certain instances basically impossible. There are only so many ways to avoid getting one shot by some abilities.
 

Tarazet

Member
Ok this I can agree with and I am slowly building my Discipline gear set. The other thing holding me back is that the current group I raid with does not have the right healing core to allow me to make the switch as well. I really do prefer the style that disc has but until I know the raid makeup will support me switching I am stuck in holy.

I do stand by the thoughts that if you have never healed before jumping into it as disc would be a risk and could be all kinds of scary.

Disc performing in raids really does depend on the comp that you've got, and you need to be willing to adjust your talents, thereby drastically changing your play style - because there's not any one approach to healing with Disc.

If you are rolling with a Shaman and a Monk, then you could use this spec that focuses mainly on single-target healing throughput and to keep the tanks safe. It's also possible to tank heal using Atonement, but Clarity of Will lends a safety buffer that can't be matched by any other class.

If you have a Paladin and a Holy Priest, then you could use this pure Atonement spec for raid healing that also adds some pretty good emergency cooldowns.

If you're solo healing in 5 mans, mobility and burst healing is paramount, so you'll use something like this.
 

TheYanger

Member
They decided that Loremaster this time needed players to do a raid, for some reason, so one quest for Suramar requires you to get something from the Emerald Dream after defeating Xavius.

I mean...if LFR didn't exist maybe I could see an issue with this, but it does so, if anything I prefer that they be able to integrate whatever they want into their questlines, especially a max level continuing endgame experience like suramar.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Honestly, as simple as it is the writing for the felsmith stuff is some godfawful Blizzard writing. Like I don't think the Demon Hunter stuff is that edgelordy but god damn the Felsmith stuff is

I REPLACED MY HEART WITH FELSLATE
 

Sarcasm

Member
Why do people argue with like 3 people. Then get kicked and pull boss and get like the others who wren't jumping in on that childish crap?

Also if a guy childishly pulls cause he is mad, don't PM. They just speak jibberish.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Druid update after a few heroics:

Spring Blossoms - me likey, and dropping germination made mana usage more manageable.

Soul of the Forest - seems good. Used it mostly to boost Wild Growth but also on Regrowth when the tank was low.

Prosperity - I know it synergizes with Soul but I hate to drop Ward. I really like Ward >_> Maybe in mythics its better when im forced to use Swiftmend more, for now most of the time I was only using it to proc Soul.

Guardian seems great for WQs but not having any relics (lol) makes my dps awful.
 

ampere

Member
Yeah Tyrannical makes certain instances basically impossible. There are only so many ways to avoid getting one shot by some abilities.

Reminds me of the Jay Wilson quote about Diablo

“Internally, we had this super hardcore test group – we’ve got a lot of hardcore players at Blizzard – that tested Inferno, and we got it to the point where they thought it was challenging enough,” Blizzard’s Jay Wilson told IGN.

“Then we doubled it. Because we knew, no matter how good we are, our players are gonna be better. We focussed on making that as difficult as we could make it.”

lol

A bunch of the abilities are just dumb stamina checks, and we'll probably need Mythic Nighthold gear to survive them
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Those new Suramar quests leading to Nighthold will pop up in the next 9 weeks. That puts the last one on December 20th give or take.

So 7.2 with Nighthold early January as many predicted?
 

Strimei

Member
Those new Suramar quests leading to Nighthold will pop up in the next 9 weeks. That puts the last one on December 20th give or take.

So 7.2 with Nighthold early January as many predicted?

Honestly, I had figured Nighthold's release wouldn't be tied to a content patch, but I could very well be wrong.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Second time I've gotten this weird glitch where I don't lag at all but I can't use any of my abilities.
 
Second time I've gotten this weird glitch where I don't lag at all but I can't use any of my abilities.

I get that frequently.

Where, it is lag because it's DCing you from the server, but basically everyone around you is moving, and you can't use abilities at all, including items. I think it's packet loss from what you're sending to their servers?
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Speaking of bugs, I havent had the unusable item bug in a while, wonder if they fixed something on their end.
 

Rokam

Member
Does anyone know if the loot in the Mythic+ chest in the class hall goes away if you don't loot it before the next reset? Leaving for a couple of weeks, and knowing my luck that'll be the one that contains the legendary.
 
Any of you guys paying with game tokens? It seems like with the mobile app and some 850 followers I can make 2K - 3K a day just by tapping on my phone, more than enough to pay for a game token each month. But if I am paying monthly on CC now, if I add a game token will it skip my next CC payment and use the token? Or do I have to cancel my CC payment for the token to be used instead for my sub?
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
I get that frequently.

Where, it is lag because it's DCing you from the server, but basically everyone around you is moving, and you can't use abilities at all, including items. I think it's packet loss from what you're sending to their servers?

First time it was really weird because it phased me into a different raid while I was in EN. I was with everyone on the runback but when they got to a specific point, I would see everyone phase into that and when I got ported to their phase, it wouldn't let me attack. At one point this gave the boss a damage buff that oneshot the tanks when we pulled. Relogging didn't fix it and I ended up having to sit for the rest of the night.

This time, like last time, the game was fine and I could move around and even take damage from abilities but I couldn't DPS. Relogging fixed it.

I dunno, it was pretty weird.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Any of you guys paying with game tokens? It seems like with the mobile app and some 850 followers I can make 2K - 3K a day just by tapping on my phone, more than enough to pay for a game token each month. But if I am paying monthly on CC now, if I add a game token will it skip my next CC payment and use the token? Or do I have to cancel my CC payment for the token to be used instead for my sub?

Dont quote me on this but im pretty sure you have to cancel the sub. You arent subbing with gold, you are buying game time which isnt the same. When your time is up on the character screen it will ask if you want to buy time with gold.
 
But I finally got my BRF Mythic sword after god knows how many kills... Damnit!

So I have a question about those raids. The post-Draenor ones. Do they always drop like...1 piece per boss? I know they 'scaled' rewards, but when me and 3 friends did BRF, each boss was only dropping 1 piece. Like....is that right? Farming those raids must be so shitty..
 
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