I don't understand how "Make Roman Strong" is what fans of him on here are striving for. You have two individuals who have already tapped the ceiling, one being more beloved and popular than the other.
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I don't understand how "Make Roman Strong" is what fans of him on here are striving for. You have two individuals who have already tapped the ceiling, one being more beloved and popular than the other.
excelsiorlef
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Never even said I was a fan did I?
I just think he should beat Taker... if only because that fan reaction is going to be infinitely more entertaining than tombstone , pose, see ya later.
It also makes more sense that a guy like Reigns would be a guy like Taker.
Look I'm of the mind that Taker should have put Wyatt over at 31 and gone away.
You don't have to be a fan.
What you presented is, See Ya Later vs Massive Booing?
I think Wyatt was his only competitor which made sense going over in recent years.
I don't think he should have gone away. I love seeing him show up on occasion still, as do many other fans.
That's true
The reactions when Roman showed up at number 30 and then eliminated Taker at the Rumble were sooo funny
excelsiorlef
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I'm arguing from two perspectives:
1) What would entertain me most
2) The fact that Taker is almost literally an actual walking Deadman and shouldn't be beating a guy like Roman Reigns just because the fans will be mad. Reigns has a long career ahead, this can be used to build something, Taker winning is just whatever does nothing.
Gone away in as much as stopped just showing up to beat someone at Mania... hell he should have lost to CM Punk at Mania 29 too in a title vs streak match but that's neither here nor there
What's up gaf? I haven't had much time to post, but I was at takeover last night and I enjoyed a lot of it. I think one of my favorite things about this weekend so far is how friendly and laid back everyone has been. Fans everywhere just chatting it up and being cordial with each other, the two guys we sat next to at takeover last night bought myself and my two friends drinks just because we were cutting up and messing around with everyone. Then when takeover ended everyone is walking down the street chanting various wrestling phrases, it's just been cool to be a part of. Obviously going to mania tonight and then Raw and Smackdown after. I've been to two manias before I've never had this much fun!!
If you can't imagine a fifty year old man beating a thirty year old man, then my lord are you watching the wrong programing.
I can see someone wanting Roman to win. That's fine.
excelsiorlef
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No no no I can picture a lot of 50 year old men beating 30 year old men...
Goldberg for example... Didn't bother me... Flair was still in decent shape at 50.
But dude Taker is just ridiculous looking now...
Carnby
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Absolutely. And it keeps his single loss to Brock still a big deal.
If Undertaker was allowed to do the things Goldberg is currently doing, he would be able to go for another forty years without issue.
I still think he isn't doing anything below reasonable expectation.
excelsiorlef
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Well when you consider the build to Lesnar vs Reigns, it being the battle of the guys who beat Taker at Mania is a damn good story.
Brian_FETO
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At the same time, you then have 2 men who have defeated the Undertaker who can both say "but you haven't beaten me"
Especially if they were planning on feeding Brock to Roman anyways before backing down with Seth
Taker loses to Brock than loses to Roman
Brock will probably have the title after tonight
Can you imagine what's gonna be the Summerslam main event?
Lesnar is another part timer though and they have already had a feud with build.
excelsiorlef
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But that's not and never has been Taker's gimmick... And I didn't really like Goldberg beating Owens either I just can buy it more.
That ended with Rollins winning
Stop watching now and save yourself the embarrassment.
Really was never Goldberg's gimmick either. Unless you count selected matches.
SparkleMotion
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And this would enhance it. Roman beating Taker has the chance to be used for something greater while Undertaker beating Roman accomplishes nothing.
Not sure how it would do that. It would give a certain match a tag-line where they could avoid natural build.
It really doesn't.
SparkleMotion
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Yeah, it seems like there's a lot you're not getting about wrestling booking.
...and you are? Are you a Master Booker?
SparkleMotion
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I'm not the guy saying Undertaker needs to secure his legacy.
You're the guy failing to come up with a solid counter point though.
If something greater is him getting nuclear heat, sure
But they'll want him to be the face.
It would also be a huge stone for Roman to carry that he was not able to beat a geriatric with one hip and no knees.
They do not want him to be face.
Even Trips says that he is pretty much already a heel
SparkleMotion
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I need to counter the point that Undertaker's legacy is not secure?
What does Roman Reigns winning do for his character?
Ambrose won it at the last PPV & cashed in that night on Rollins.
Probably HHH
SparkleMotion
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What does (young wrestler) beating (legend) do for his character? Like, really?
pretty done
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the big show
BewareTheBatsie
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Ambrose vs Corbin just screams of a match that'll be used as a cooldown for something.
This is also true.
It can not be a close win, or a lucky spear.
He has to essentially destroy Taker in the middle of the ring and then bask happily in the heat.
I think you missed that part of the conversation and now just going around in circles.
SparkleMotion
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You seem to need basic concepts explained to you over and over.
Sure. Be my guest.
You can't use a blanket statement like this. Reigns is hated and a complete failure as a babyface, and what's more he's a complete black hole on TV where everything has to revolve around him.
Barring a heel turn, this is a match that should not have been booked. Even a heel turn does little for me, I don't want to see him turn heel or stay face, I want him to get off TV.
The heel turn doesn't do much for me either. It would be interesting to see the attempt, but I think people have a bit too much respect for Undertaker unless something else comes of it.
I mean, the Dudleys had the same thing happen a few months ago. Really just is a cop out for someone leaving programing.
I mean, the Dudleys had the same thing happen a few months ago. Really just is a cop out for someone leaving programing.
ThreePiMatt
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Call me a damn fool, but I'm still holding out hope that Shane is just suddenly "unable to perform" right before his match and they bring in a surprise opponent. As a guy whose first ever email address was "shane_o_matt@hotmail.com" I've always been a Shane McMahon fan, but when you have one of the legit best performances in this industry you need to pair them up with other top guys on the biggest stage.
BewareTheBatsie
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The night after WM 32 is when things finally started to take off for AJ. Before that he wasn't really doing much. But then after, he had the two great matches with Roman and then went into the Cena feud which after that took him off into being world champ.
Fried Food
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Ah yes time for my yearly buy a month of WWE network.
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