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[Booty Patrol]

If I don't like the Yosemite preview or if I run into any problems, can I go back to Mavericks

 

[Squalor]

If I don't like the Yosemite preview or if I run into any problems, can I go back to Mavericks

As long as it doesn't brick your computer, you should be able to go back to the island, haha.

 

[infiniteloop]

If I don't like the Yosemite preview or if I run into any problems, can I go back to Mavericks

You'll have to back your stuff up and wipe the computer, but yes you can.

 

[LyleLanley]

If I don't like the Yosemite preview or if I run into any problems, can I go back to Mavericks

It's kind of a pain in the butt if I remember correctly but it's definitely possible. As always with betas you're probably better off not installing on a vital computer.

 

[Goldenhen]

If I don't like the Yosemite preview or if I run into any problems, can I go back to Mavericks

You should able to if you have been using Time Machine to backup your computer. Using this method you can wipe the HD and restore image from your Time Machine backup HD.

 

[victreeb3l]

Someone please hook a brother up with new Yosemite wallpapers TYVM

 

[badcrumble]

The fact that iOS 8 still seemingly lacks a file system is weird. They've solved a lot of the worst issues, but it'd still be nice to have a file browser where you can open a document first and then have the phone ask you which app you want to open it in (maybe tap to open in default app, hold to have the OS list all apps compatible with that document type).

At least with iCloud Drive they've basically got everything in place to make that happen very easily next year?

Anyhow, here's hoping that the photo app (and Photos in the Cloud) gets face recognition/tagging and animated GIF support.

Oh and Siri in OSX, a financial transaction platform, and Play Next in the Music app plz.

 

[zychi]

The fact that iOS 8 still seemingly lacks a file system is weird. They've solved a lot of the worst issues, but it'd still be nice to have a file browser where you can open a document first and then have the phone ask you which app you want to open it in (maybe tap to open in default app, hold to have the OS list all apps compatible with that document type).

At least with iCloud Drive they've basically got everything in place to make that happen very easily next year?

Anyhow, here's hoping that the photo app (and Photos in the Cloud) gets face recognition/tagging and animated GIF support.

Oh and Siri in OSX, a financial transaction platform, and Play Next in the Music app plz.

I think, and I could be totally wrong here, the lack of a filesystem is to prevent piracy. It's why jailbreaking is so difficult on ios compared to android. They want developers to make money on ios, not lose money like android.

 

[neemmss]

So for Swift, do we need to know objective-c or is this a whole new language to learn?

 

[LyleLanley]

The fact that iOS 8 still seemingly lacks a file system is weird. They've solved a lot of the worst issues, but it'd still be nice to have a file browser where you can open a document first and then have the phone ask you which app you want to open it in (maybe tap to open in default app, hold to have the OS list all apps compatible with that document type).

At least with iCloud Drive they've basically got everything in place to make that happen very easily next year?

Anyhow, here's hoping that the photo app (and Photos in the Cloud) gets face recognition/tagging and animated GIF support.

Oh and Siri in OSX, a financial transaction platform, and Play Next in the Music app plz.

Using a program like GoodReader would probably work pretty well as a file browser until Apple comes up with something more official.

 

[badcrumble]

I think, and I could be totally wrong here, the lack of a filesystem is to prevent piracy. It's why jailbreaking is so difficult on ios compared to android. They want developers to make money on ios, not lose money like android.

I don't think we need full file system access like *that* (and I'd rather not have it). Doesn't mean we shouldn't have a single shared document pool you can open up - even with this iCloud Drive stuff, documents are still kinda effectively tethered to specific apps within iOS in the sense that they reside inside that app like it's a folder. (Hopefully I'm wrong).

 

[Interfectum]

So for Swift, do we need to know objective-c or is this a whole new language to learn?

its a brand new language

 

[Squalor]

So, guys, just based upon the keynote, what are your favorite features?

 

[Tobor]

The ability to leave a group text thread is the greatest thing ever. I need that so bad.

Sorry, Dad, I'm out on the conversation between you, me, and everyone else you know!

 

[Ephemeris]

If I don't like the Yosemite preview or if I run into any problems, can I go back to Mavericks

Create a new partition !

 

[Zeyphersan]

So they made a big point about how all your photos will be in the cloud, but there can also be a local version that's getting constantly updated too, right?

I don't think I want my photos to ONLY exist in the cloud, but when I make an edit on my iPhone I want it to save on the local version as well.

 

[zychi]

I don't think we need full file system access like *that* (and I'd rather not have it). Doesn't mean we shouldn't have a single shared document pool you can open up - even with this iCloud Drive stuff, documents are still kinda effectively tethered to specific apps within iOS in the sense that they reside inside that app like it's a folder. (Hopefully I'm wrong).

i use google drive for documents/pdfs and then just open them in my preferred app.

 

[Zutroy]

Yosemite Gaf

 

[LyleLanley]

So, guys, just based upon the keynote, what are your favorite features?

The new interactivity between iOS apps is pretty great but on a personal level being able to respond to SMS from my computers/iPad is something I see myself using quite a lot.

 

[badcrumble]

So they made a big point about how all your photos will be in the cloud, but there can also be a local version that's getting constantly updated too, right?

I don't think I want my photos to ONLY exist in the cloud, but when I make an edit on my iPhone I want it to save on the local version as well.

It'll be stored locally too, yeah. Full-res versions in the cloud, I think (and likely on your Mac), and slightly lower-res versions (of older photos) on your iOS devices, IIRC.

 

[Majine]

Yosemite Gaf

is iTunes a separate update? Since the icon is the same as now.

 

[Fuchsdh]

Yosemite Gaf

Ooh, can you do the dark theme? Wanna' see what that looks like.

Aside from Aperture though all those icons look like they fit pretty well. And yes the Finder replacement is pretty ugly.

 

[mrkgoo]

So, guys, just based upon the keynote, what are your favorite features?

I've always invited the strong integration between mac and ios so the continuity features such as hand off looks great to me.

Quick type also has the possibility of being quite profound.

 

[Zeyphersan]

It'll be stored locally too, yeah. Full-res versions in the cloud, I think (and likely on your Mac), and slightly lower-res versions (of older photos) on your iOS devices, IIRC.

Perfect, I am totally on board.

 

[VoxPop]

Yosemite Gaf

Love the new matte Close, Minimize, Maximize buttons and that new font for the bar

I'm guessing the new (red) iTunes from the keynote will be revealed come September? Maybe with Beats Music integration?

 

[Squalor]

Yosemite Gaf

Damn, Safari is looking super sleek. I love it.

I love the flat dock. But the Contacts icon is just too . . . brown . . . ?

I don't know. It just draws so much attention.

 

[Iacobellis]

iOS 8 definitely has features I don't think we would have seen in the Jobs/Forstall days. The ones that stood out to me were Sharing and Widgets.

Really looking forward to beta testing this and Yosemite soon.

 

[fireside]

And yes the Finder replacement is pretty ugly.

I think it's cute. It's so happy

 

[Squalor]

iOS 8 definitely has features I don't think we would have seen in the Jobs/Forstall days. The ones that stood out to me were Sharing and Widgets.

Really looking forward to beta testing this and Yosemite soon.

I quite prefer that they didn't implement home screen widgets.

I think Jobs would have done something similar to the way it's currently implemented.

 

[LCfiner]

I’m glad windows are still grey and not some blinding white in an attempt to mimic iOS too closely.

I’m not a big fan of excessive translucency in windowed OSes but at least Apple kept the necessary shadows behind windows to make it clear which window is on top of which.

 

[Leona Lewis]

Continuity looks neat.

As a non-developer though, probably the least exciting keynote in years.

 

[badcrumble]

I’m glad windows are still grey and not some blinding white in an attempt to mimic iOS too closely.

I’m not a big fan of excessive translucency in windowed OSes but at least Apple kept the necessary shadows behind windows to make it clear which window is on top of which.

Yeah that stuff's all handled way more tastefully than I feared it might be (and only less-important parts of windows are translucent, basically).

 

[Anth1888]

Someone needs to screenshot dark mode, want to see what it looks like.

The new Safari like is sleek, hope we can still keep the bookmark bar with folders - I use them a lot in Safari.

 

[Zeyphersan]

Continuity looks neat.

As a non-developer though, probably the least exciting keynote in years.

I'm a non-developer, and the further integration of iOS and OSX had me crazy excited. The second the new rMBPs are out, I'm on one.

 

[Deku Tree]

Why doesn't Jony Ive ever get up on stage? The best we ever get from him is a pre-recorded video...

 

[amnesiac]

the health icon kind of sucks
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[Maximus.]

Do we know a time frame when we will get to know when or if we can participate in the public beta? I signed up 30 mins after the conference, but don't recall a timeframe mentioned for when it will open.

 

[Zutroy]

Ooh, can you do the dark theme? Wanna' see what that looks like.

Aside from Aperture though all those icons look like they fit pretty well. And yes the Finder replacement is pretty ugly.

Trying too but can't find the option! Also the question mark in the dock is PhotoBooth. Don't know if that's just dropped for the beta or if they plan on getting rid of it.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Why doesn't Jony Ive ever get up on stage? The best we ever get from him is a pre-recorded video...

The best designers are often not the best presenters

 

[Anson225]

Yosemite looks really slick! love the new UI, and that iTunes icon looks yum
oh and the continuity? hands-off? phone/sms on mac? YES PLEASE

 

[VE3TRO]

Missed the conference. Was a new Mac Mini announced? My parents '06 iMac is going to die soon so was hoping to replace with a Mac Mini.

 

[Majine]

Best comedy part was Craig:

"She's a wonderful wonderful woman, but... this is my space."

 

[Xun]

I generally really like the look of Yosemite.

The dock icons are growing on me too, even if some of the colours are a bit too bright and the trash icon is bland.

 

[Squalor]

Missed the conference. Was a new Mac Mini announced? My parents '06 iMac is going to die soon so was hoping to replace with a Mac Mini.

No hardware announcements.

 

[LCfiner]

Why doesn't Jony Ive ever get up on stage? The best we ever get from him is a pre-recorded video...

He went up in 2008 to show off the new unibody macbooks. He’s... not great on stage. Schiller is better for hardware reveals. Ive needs the videos and the editing and multiple takes to get his point across.

And Craig F is pretty damn good as their goto showman these days. He has a goofy earnestness that’s just grounded enough to have a good stage presence

 

[Fuchsdh]

I think it's cute. It's so happy

The old one was "cute" too. This one sort of is a throwback to the MacOS days, but the thin border for the two sides of the face and the thick lines for the mouth and eyes make it feel messy, personally. Could have rounded off the edges of the current one, removed the bevelling and gloss and it would have looked nicer.

Wish there was a little more depth in things like the window controls. Flat colors are boring. Still definitely an improvement from the iOS 6 -> 7 transition (and probably from OS 9 to OS X as well.)

 

[pojut]

really excited about Swift, I'm not the biggest fan of objective-c

 

[Iacobellis]

Do we know a time frame when we will get to know when or if we can participate in the public beta? I signed up 30 mins after the conference, but don't recall a timeframe mentioned for when it will open.

Summer. You could always run the developer beta for free on your machine.

 

[Pixels]

Weee setting up iOS 8 beta. Time to make a custom keyboard!

 

[LeleSocho]