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WWDC14 Thread of iOS 8 and Mac OSX 10.10

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badcrumble

Member
Valkyr Junkie said:
Kinda hard to tell where it will slot in in the iPhoto/Aperture space since it looked so plain and basic seeing as how it won't be out until 2015.
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It's likely going to replace iPhoto, but more importantly it's putting in place a universal "photo library" that any app can access, just like in iOS. That'll be a huge boon for *any* photo-editing app and make it easier for Aperture to keep operating.

Curious to see whether Apple's removing Photo Booth and face-tagging/facial recognition, but it's likely that Aperture will stick around, IMO. The universal photo library and Photos in the Cloud (and the nondestructive edit stuff) makes it *more* likely that Aperture will stick around, IMO.
 
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thiscoldblack

Unconfirmed Member
Welp...

We had a good run. Started 2 months ago...

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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
hey guys i get that the thing you're pirating is free so it's not really harmful piracy or whatever but would you mind being a little more discrete about it. You can just say you're installing the beta, you don't need to say "YARRRR ME MATEYS LOLLLLL I'M NOT A DEVELOPER BUT I JUST COULDN'T WAIT GETTIN MY DOWNLOAD ON EDIT: WAY TOO EARLY HOW I REVERT TECH SUPPORT PLZ????"
 
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LyleLanley

Banned
Seems like I can't install the iOS 8 beta on my iPad using Yosemite. None of the buttons work on the iPad settings page in iTunes.

Edit:

Apparently this was only a problem in full screen mode.
 
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Mysterious

Banned
Stumpokapow said:
hey guys i get that the thing you're pirating is free so it's not really harmful piracy or whatever but would you mind being a little more discrete about it. You can just say you're installing the beta, you don't need to say "YARRRR ME MATEYS LOLLLLL I'M NOT A DEVELOPER BUT I JUST COULDN'T WAIT GETTIN MY DOWNLOAD ON EDIT: WAY TOO EARLY HOW I REVERT TECH SUPPORT PLZ????"
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I don't know if this is posted towards me, but I obtained my copy legitimately (registered as an Apple Developer because I thought I wanted to go into this field... turns out I didn't, but the betas were a nice side bonus).

Also, speaking of reverting :p, is there any way to download Mavericks again? App Store tells me I already have 10.10, so I can't download 10.9. :(
 
Gromph

Gromph

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Mysterious said:
I was able to update to iOS 8 Beta this way (and iOS 7 Beta, and iOS 6 Beta). I am registered as an Apple Developer for iOS. However, when I download the iOS 7.1 file from developer.apple.com, it says my device is ineligible for that firmware. :\

So effectively I can't downgrade.

Nvm, found this on Apple's website.


I don't recall it being like this for iOS 7 Beta since I was able to downgrade a few times. This sucks even more considering my Apple Developer expires in July and I have no plans of resubscribing.
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You can switch off the phone, boot into recovery mode and restore FW it will restore 7.1 version even if you are in 8.0
 
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badcrumble

Member
infiniteloop said:
The headers in the App are Collections - Shared - Albums - Projects, so seems like it could replace iPhoto. If they remove Faces + Places, i'm gonna be mad.
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It still definitely has geotagging functionality and time functionality, but face metadata is less clear (iOS only ever treated faces as albums, IIRC).
 
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Fuchsdh

Member
mrkgoo said:
Its all jumbled mess really.

Because SMS, while technically it must use data, doesn't actually use internet data connectivity to send and receive messages, because you can turn off mobile data and still send and receive SMS. It's its own thing, so while it does use data, it doesn't use "data".

If you know what I mean.
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That's because texting is basically free for the cell phone companies--it can send texts while your phone is pinging nearby towers.
 
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Mysterious

Banned
Gromph said:
You can switch off the phone, boot into recovery mode and restore FW it will restore 7.1 version even if you are in 8.0
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I was in DFU and it told me that it was "ineligible". Some other users on the MacRumors forums reported the same thing, and that's where I learned what's on Apple Developer isn;t iOS 7.1.1.
 
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Technosteve

Banned
Stumpokapow said:
hey guys i get that the thing you're pirating is free so it's not really harmful piracy or whatever but would you mind being a little more discrete about it. You can just say you're installing the beta, you don't need to say "YARRRR ME MATEYS LOLLLLL I'M NOT A DEVELOPER BUT I JUST COULDN'T WAIT GETTIN MY DOWNLOAD ON EDIT: WAY TOO EARLY HOW I REVERT TECH SUPPORT PLZ????"
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:lol i feel your inner IT admin is fuming
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

Member
The Real Abed said:
I had a feeling. It explains why the icon on the button changed from the + symbol to something that kinda looks like it could resemble Fullscreen. I approve of this change. But wonder how it'll work in the Finder. I bet in windows with a sidebar it'll act like Fullscreen but ones with no sidebar will just zoom. And hopefully for the love of Pete it finally zooms to the CORRECT SIZE PLEASE. It's been 14 years and it still can't zoom correctly in the Finder.

I wonder how long before the Public Beta is available. They say "soon" but this is Apple Time™.

I love that Tab View has made its way across the entire board. Even on OS X.
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If you hold alt when you hit the green button, it's like old broken zoom.
 
Gromph

Gromph

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Mysterious said:
I was in DFU and it told me that it was "ineligible". Some other users on the MacRumors forums reported the same thing, and that's where I learned what's on Apple Developer isn;t iOS 7.1.1.
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I did a 8.0 downgrade after a weird bug with Siri telling me everything i was doing on the phone and disabled the swipe functions.


Switch off the phone, hold home, open itunes, connect the cable and restore.
 
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giga

Member
$1/month for 20GB is very reasonable. Having only 16GB on-device shouldn't be too big of a problem for me anymore, since iOS 8 will auto-manage my photos now.

apple said:
It can automatically keep the original high-resolution photos and videos in iCloud and leave behind lightweight versions that are perfectly sized for each device.
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AmanoBuff

Member
The_Inquisitor said:
Any news on when iCloud pricing goes live? I plan to cancel my google drive.
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I've been wondering about this as well. I hope they don't wait until the iOS 8 or Yosemite are released publicly.

Also, thanks for all the feedback on iOS 8. I was planning on using my dusty dev account to install it, but I think I'll wait a couple of weeks or so.
 
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AmanoBuff

Member
Sorry to ask guys, but I'm quite new to the Apple-related threads.

Is there a thread to ask general questions or solve random doubts/issues?
 
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mrkgoo

Member
AmanoBuff said:
Sorry to ask guys, but I'm quite new to the Apple-related threads.

Is there a thread to ask general questions or solve random doubts/issues?
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Depends on what problem you have. There's a mac hardware thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=439032&page=227

An OS X 10.9 thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=691833&page=41

an iOS 7 thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680577&page=86

an iOS apps thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503125&page=32

A general MAc OS X thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365221&page=245


and various thread for each iOS hardware release too.
 
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Deku Tree

Member
mrkgoo said:
Depends on what problem you have. There's a mac hardware thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=439032&page=227

An OS X 10.9 thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=691833&page=41

an iOS 7 thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680577&page=86

an iOS apps thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503125&page=32

A general MAc OS X thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365221&page=245


and various thread for each iOS hardware release too.
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Nice! Those were all the links I was thinking about. It's good to have them collected all in one place.
 
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The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
Whogie said:
Whelp, running Trim Enabler on Yosemite was a bad idea. Now I can't boot :p
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That was a bad idea. I hope you fix it. Oops!

AmanoBuff said:
Sorry to ask guys, but I'm quite new to the Apple-related threads.

Is there a thread to ask general questions or solve random doubts/issues?
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Mavericks OT
Mac OS noob thread

AmanoBuff said:
I've been wondering about this as well. I hope they don't wait until the iOS 8 or Yosemite are released publicly.

Also, thanks for all the feedback on iOS 8. I was planning on using my dusty dev account to install it, but I think I'll wait a couple of weeks or so.
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I'd bet it won't happen until both come out. Usually big features that require external infrastructure aren't enabled until final release.
 
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giga

Member
This is interesting.

iOS 8 makes dealing with screen size and orientation much more versatile. It is easier than ever to create a single interface for your app that works well on both iPad and iPhone, adjusting to orientation changes and different screen sizes as needed. Design apps with a common interface and then customize them for different size classes. Adapt your user interface to the strengths of each form factor. You no longer need to create a specific iPad storyboard; instead target the appropriate size classes and tune your interface for the best experience.
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mollipen

Member
Stumpokapow said:
Is the photos app in Yosemite supposed to replace iPhoto entirely? The demo made it seem like it.
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I feel like Apple's gotten to a weird place where the release apps that should be part of other apps but aren't. Like, why did FaceTime need to be its own app, instead of part of what was iChat?

I really, really hope iPhoto isn't gone, because iPhoto does a lot of things at this point, and I've got three libraries built around it. :(
 
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subrock

Member
giga said:
This is interesting.
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They addressed this in the platforms state of the union. Basically, you can define a view controller as being compact, or normal, so on devices where there is room, view controllers will try to sit next to each other in some orientation.
 
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AmanoBuff

Member
mrkgoo said:
Depends on what problem you have. There's a mac hardware thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=439032&page=227

An OS X 10.9 thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=691833&page=41

an iOS 7 thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680577&page=86

an iOS apps thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503125&page=32

A general MAc OS X thread:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=365221&page=245


and various thread for each iOS hardware release too.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback everyone.

I'm just having an issue with Reeder 2, which simply won't run properly on my main account but will do so under any other account on the same Mac.

Thanks again!
 
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John_B

Member
I hope we will get some background information on Swift. Who created it and how long did it take? Is it made to last for the next 20 years, or is it more of a nice speed bump mixed with some developer-requested features from other languages?
 
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