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WWDC14 Thread of iOS 8 and Mac OSX 10.10
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Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I wouldn't recommend disabling it, but...
Here's how you find this stuff so you don't need to ask again:
See, you can type the setting you're looking for in the upper-right corner and it'll highlight where to find it in System Preferences.
Here's where the setting you're looking for is:
I wouldn't recommend disabling it, but...
Here's how you find this stuff so you don't need to ask again:
See, you can type the setting you're looking for in the upper-right corner and it'll highlight where to find it in System Preferences.
Here's where the setting you're looking for is:
Thanks for that. I don't want it to ever ask for a password though.
It won't ask for a password if you don't set one.
Yosemite is running better now, I feel like a lot of the performance issues I struggled with initially was because of Spotlight indexing. I do hope the weather widget is fixed. It's bugged out and keeps saying the current weather is "Tornados" and to contact my local media for further information. I live in a city (And country) that doesn't really get tornados. Ever. And there certainly aren't any at the moment. The location and temp are right, as are the forecasts for the next few hours. Just the current weather is stuck on Tornados. So weird.
PhantomHound
Banned
Spotlight has to build its index of search terms etc so it can do less work when you search for things. When it has to rebuild its whole index (like when installing a new OS), it has to crawl through all your stuff, so it can take a while and slow down your computer in the process.
PhantomHound
Banned
Gotcha, I didn't notice any performance or slowing when the OS is first installed. This was on my new air though so it probably didn't have much to index.
you need to show the tab bar now for that.
speaking of safari. i feel the titlebar translucency is a bit too distracting at times.
I start reading a small story on engadget and it looks like this
then I scroll the page and this happens as the main image crosses into the titlebar
it’s just too severe for me. I’d prefer if the contrast on blurred images dropped 50%. Maybe make the default shade of an active titlebar a bit darker too.
StopMakingSense
Member
It's a lot less noticeable with an SSD.
That's fucking garbage.
I agree. I also think the address bar should show the whole address without having to click it.
anonymous_abc
Member
I'm loving the new design!
Everything feels so new...
Everything feels so new...
cjp
Junior Member
The different levels of transparency in the title and menu bars seems a little...weird. I can't tell if this is just a "beta" lack of finish or design inconsistency. Maybe I'm just ignorant of the whole design philosophy. Can someone explain it to me?
Here's Safari showing transparency when I scroll past the blue bits on NeoGAF:
Messages:
Maps:
And now look at Mail:
Practically nothing when you scroll the email up "into" or "past" the upper section. There's definitely a very small degree of change, in motion you can see a subtle change in shadow but nothing like what's displayed in the other apps. And other emails with more vivid colours don't make a difference either. It's the same with a few other apps too.
This also happens with a few on iOS7. The level of transparency between some apps seems to just be completely different.
What's the supposed "philosophy" behind this? To me, it just appears inconsistent.
Here's Safari showing transparency when I scroll past the blue bits on NeoGAF:
Messages:
Maps:
And now look at Mail:
Practically nothing when you scroll the email up "into" or "past" the upper section. There's definitely a very small degree of change, in motion you can see a subtle change in shadow but nothing like what's displayed in the other apps. And other emails with more vivid colours don't make a difference either. It's the same with a few other apps too.
This also happens with a few on iOS7. The level of transparency between some apps seems to just be completely different.
What's the supposed "philosophy" behind this? To me, it just appears inconsistent.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
It's crazy how you still can't receive email notifications without having Mail open.
Why?
Nothing else other than 'iTunes Now Playing' (which is obviously understandable) needs to be running so it's annoying that Mail, which would really benefit from it, doesn't work in this way.
Why?
Nothing else other than 'iTunes Now Playing' (which is obviously understandable) needs to be running so it's annoying that Mail, which would really benefit from it, doesn't work in this way.
Found a bug, or at least something they failed to include.
Safari doesn't save cookies in private windows.
So I log into a 'certain' site, open a new tab (still in the private window) for that same site and I'm no longer logged in.
It also didn't save the temporary preferences I made in the previous tab, too.
Safari doesn't save cookies in private windows.
So I log into a 'certain' site, open a new tab (still in the private window) for that same site and I'm no longer logged in.
It also didn't save the temporary preferences I made in the previous tab, too.
@cjp
it’s inconsistent. in your mail window, highlight a message (dark blue) and then scroll the list up to the titlebar. there’s heavy blue in the bar now. just like safari and maps.
but mail messages are barely showing through.
also, seemingly a bug but i don’t know if others will have it. in mail, with message selected and blue highlight showing up in titlebar, select a new message and scroll through the mail list again. the blue still shows up in the titlebar from the old selected mail location but not the new one.
it’s inconsistent. in your mail window, highlight a message (dark blue) and then scroll the list up to the titlebar. there’s heavy blue in the bar now. just like safari and maps.
but mail messages are barely showing through.
also, seemingly a bug but i don’t know if others will have it. in mail, with message selected and blue highlight showing up in titlebar, select a new message and scroll through the mail list again. the blue still shows up in the titlebar from the old selected mail location but not the new one.
Junior Mint
Member
Yup, Safari looks like shit with the transparency. At least it's an easy choice to stick with Chrome now.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah?
I got an email from Apple yesterday inviting me to try the beta. I think I'll go ahead and give it a try.
That's not a feature? I mean the private window is isolated so if you open a new tab it won't know anything about it.
I can go incognito on Google Chrome, log into a site, open that same site in another incognito tab and still be logged in.
cjp
Junior Member
Ha, you're right. At first I tried it and nothing, but when I switched back in and out it came through. I guess it's just been overlooked for now seeing as the messages themselves don't show through.
Don't think so. Why not use exfat?
Why don't you just get Fuse or something?
There's actually a plugin I installed for this. I forget the name of it, but it's something really creative like "NTFS for Mac". It made NTFS drives natively supported on my Mac. I can format them in Disk Utility and write to the drives. I haven't had any issues with it but I don't really use my NTFS drive often.
I think it might be Paragon NTFS for Mac, I've had it installed for years now but it's something you never really notice anymore once it's there
Darkangel
Member
Well I decided to install the beta on my mid-2010 MacBook Pro 15"
I don't know what I was expecting, but I'm kind of disappointed. It's mostly the visuals that are bugging me; Mavericks looked really polished and "complete" (though I suppose this IS a beta test...). Hopefully the new IOS8 features will win me over if I decide to get an iPhone 6.
- So far I'm not liking the IOS7 inspired visuals. Dark mode is cool, but kind of useless considering it doesn't affect actual programs. The whole thing has a Fisher Price vibe to it.
- Apple decided to disable my non-Apple SSD's TRIM support again.
- Certain actions like expose don't seem to work as smoothly as on Mavericks. I hope this won't turn into another IOS7-iPhone4 situation.
- Weird how the "green" button now switches things to fullscreen. I wish Apple would just use a regular window management system like Windows and most Linux DEs. Still no side snapping!
I don't know what I was expecting, but I'm kind of disappointed. It's mostly the visuals that are bugging me; Mavericks looked really polished and "complete" (though I suppose this IS a beta test...). Hopefully the new IOS8 features will win me over if I decide to get an iPhone 6.
They day that happens is the day I look for an alternative OS. Luckily that's very unlikely.
Maximus.
Member
you need to show the tab bar now for that.
speaking of safari. i feel the titlebar translucency is a bit too distracting at times.
I start reading a small story on engadget and it looks like this
then I scroll the page and this happens as the main image crosses into the titlebar
its just too severe for me. Id prefer if the contrast on blurred images dropped 50%. Maybe make the default shade of an active titlebar a bit darker too.
It's not even that distracting. Most websites aren't even that vibrant, so in my experience it barely even gets multi-colored. If the translucency was any less, the effect would be ruined because you wouldn't even noticed it. It's such a minor touch, surprised people are complaining about it.
If the contrast/vibrancy were reduced it might match iOS 7. The color bleed is much more prominent in Yosemite than in iOS.
It may not be distracting to you but it is to me. And, if nothing else, I just find it ugly on any image heavy site. Whereas it's fine on iOS (thinking about iPad here which has a larger title bar than iPhone)
Chromes incognito mode shares data with all active incognito sessions. Soooo don't look at porn incognito while browsing your bank account incognito...
RedAssedApe
Banned
I'm looking for a way to sort my bookmarks alphabetically without having to manually arrange them around myself every time I add a new bookmark. Can't find where to do this. Every Google search I do says I need to install a third party extension or do something dumb like moving then into a folder in Finder and them copying them back.
Maybe I'm just being dumb and I'm missing something super obvious...
PhantomHound
Banned
Found a bug where safari flickers the tool bar menu when trying to share a message through immesh and accessing your contacts
LyleLanley
Banned
The latest betas seems to have messed with the synchronization. Certain messages will appear on certain devices.
Junior Mint
Member
Yup. Effect needs to be toned down a ton.
Yeah, don't do this.
You should have a password on boot at the very least. Otherwise a good bunch of what makes Mac OS X more secure is lost.
That said I thought it still asks for a password, but you simply can hit enter?
The poster didn't want to have to enter their password - that's how to do it. I'm not saying it's a good idea but it answers their question.
Emperor Bohe
Member
is it true that the Public Beta for Yosemite breaks Bootcamp? Even if I am using reFind as my boot menu? If that is the case then I won't be installing it... I use Windows 8.1 way too much.
cjp
Junior Member
I read a post recently, I can't remember where, that pointed out that what we see with Mavericks has come from the refinement and polish of the visual style through lots of OS releases over many years. It noted that Yosemite and it's design quirks and inconsistencies are really similar to the OS releases when Apple moved away the "brushed metal" style.
I don't think you'll see the same level of coherence and polish we have with Mavericks until 10.12/10.13 and beyond.
Yup, this is true. It's much more prominent in Yosemite than the subtle approach in iOS 7.
Sometimes I thought it was too subtle in iOS 7, maybe there's a medium between the two that work better across both platforms.