infiniteloop
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I can see an app + a hub that could be integrated into Apple TV or Airport line something revolv or SmartThings
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WWDC14 Thread of iOS 8 and Mac OSX 10.10
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I can see an app + a hub that could be integrated into Apple TV or Airport line something revolv or SmartThings
infiniteloop
Member
Apple's 'Smart Home' Initiative Focused on 'Made for iPhone' Certification, Not Deep Integration
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/29/apple-smart-home-initiative/
http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/29/apple-smart-home-initiative/
cjp
Junior Member
Go fullscreen on Safari on iCloud.com and I bet it won't be far off.
Thanks.
That Anki drive demo was the worst. Seemed longer than 4 minutes when I was watching.
I'm sure they will pump beats music subscription service.
infiniteloop
Member
But still in iOS 8. May come in 8.1
Lol they haven't even completed all the stuff promised in ios7. We never got synced read notifications between iOS and Mac
Weird thing is they have that for Facetime, but not everything else.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
That was the biggest thing I was looking forward to, too. And the confusing way they presented iOS notifications coming to your Mac, which really just ended up being Mac push notifications on websites.
I've got so used to my iPad as primary tool for Internet browsing that I could really do with a way to browse while having a YouTube video open next to it.
badcrumble
Member
I can't imagine this feature being done that well with an iPad's touchscreen/single-button interface. I'd much rather have better inter-app communication, interactive rich notifications, and a document-picking system and keep apps fullscreen-only.
Also, if this isn't shown at WWDC, that means it won't be in dev builds or available for visible/allowed APIs, meaning it'll likely only be for certain Apple apps and not open to third parties, if it happens at all.
Kinda thinking this is one of those things that has been prototyped (like iOS TextEdit and Preview) but won't make it into the final OS. Not sure how good Mark Gurman's sources are.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
I'm somewhat excited for the OpenGL update that will be included in 10.10 (and the new drivers), because finally, we'll on either the newest version or only a slightly older version of OpenGL.
I would be curious to see what a lot of developers could do with the more modern OpenGLs. So many production applications even still seem to only be on OpenGL 2.0, with no plans in sight to move to a newer version. I wonder if the newer stacks don't offer any improvements for the common Pro apps that utilize OpenGL 2.0 since most don't utilize 3D effects.
I would be curious to see what a lot of developers could do with the more modern OpenGLs. So many production applications even still seem to only be on OpenGL 2.0, with no plans in sight to move to a newer version. I wonder if the newer stacks don't offer any improvements for the common Pro apps that utilize OpenGL 2.0 since most don't utilize 3D effects.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I would love something like this for iOS8... http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/30/5761732/this-striking-ios-8-concept-reinvents-the-homescreen
infiniteloop
Member
My battery just lost 5% of it's charge just looking at that (looks nice though).
I'll preface this by saying, I've been an Apple guy for over 20 years. That said, while i don't care much for Metro, especially the way they shoehorned it into Windows, it is an absolutely awesome interface for a phone. The live tile concept for a phone screen is utterly brilliant, and I honestly do wish Apple would copy it (or at the least, just let devs make their app icons live). I haven't actually gotten the chance to spend much time with a Windows Phone to pick it apart and see where MS inevitably cocked it up (as they always seem to do); but from what I've seen, I consider it the ideal home screen UI for a smartphone. Shame it took them so long, and iOS and Android vacuumed up all the room for them in the marketplace.
Ephemeris
Member
Gorgeous.
SuperPac
Member
I agree. Live icons where weather just says the temperature, sure. Widgets? Aside from weather and maybe music I don't see the need and as you said, Notification/Control Center do that job on both accounts.
I saw that earlier - beautiful, I'd love to see it implemented. A mix between a widget and a metro tile with iOS design? Nice.
Think it'd be a mess, personally. He himself admits how it would collide with existing icons, reshuffle home screens, and deciding how to take up room would be immensely awkwardwhat happens when you have a 2x2 tile right above a 1x1 that you also want to expand? It'd be far worse than the already awkward slip-slide of rearranging icons. Looks pretty, but it's a usability nightmare as currently envisioned.
probably, but there's still time (?) to polish it*, I doubt it would be implemented as-is.
*: hypothetical.
It looks pretty and ironically the usability issues has been solved on other platforms. Action Launcher, my favourite on Android, combines icons and widgets/tiles with better gestures and UI
The iOS slip-slide of rearranging icons is just horrible. Jon Siracusa was also complaining about it on the last episode of ATP lol. It's one of those examples that illustrate why I've became really disillusioned about Apple's UI design acumen. There were jailbreak alternatives for moving icons Four Years ago! Microsoft was making fun on Apple's icon moving UI when they introduced multitouch methods in Windows RT Two Years ago! Now time for iOS 8 and I bet Apple still won't bother fixing it. Argh
Erebus
Member
It's a work in progress. Furthermore, if Apple does indeed take cues from this I'm sure the final result will differ vastly.
infiniteloop
Member
If there's no Mac hardware announcements, does that mean no Schiller presentation ??
brianmcdoogle
Member
Hey all, this is the first year where I won't be able to watch from the beginning the keynote. Do any of you know, can I start watching the stream half an hour in and rewind it to the start, or am I going to have to wait until the entire thing gets posted? I don't know how the stream buffering works on the Apple TV.
Meh the first half hour is usually the fluff piece and the fun with charts section.
I agree, I hate arranging icons on my ipad. So infuriating.
That would be ideal. A great way to add active content without having to change too much.
Nice. This is something apple should consider doing. It's pretty sleek.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
You folks are really fiending for 24/7 easy temperature access.
infiniteloop
Member
MORE BANNERZ
security lady aint happy
looks a bit like the iOS 6 one:
security lady aint happy
looks a bit like the iOS 6 one:
SmackCrackleNPop
Member
MORE BANNERZ
security lady aint happy
looks a bit like the iOS 6 one:
Apple's run out of ideas for banners.
Apple is doomed.
no more than were fiending for copy n paste, notification center, multitasking, background apps...
ways to piss off retailers and labels in one fell swoop.
SmackCrackleNPop
Member
Available to all retailers and your favorite digital store (if your favorite is iTunes)
This probably is an article on Slate.
CrudeDiatribe
Member
Or written by Dan Lyons.
Speaking of which, I just pulled down NC, and there was the weather! Problem solved!
Gorgeous but would require so much work from developers.
Junior Mint
Member
That thing is so worthless. I'm surprised they were able to make it even worse than the old weather widget from iOS 6.
It tells me the weather for the day. What was it supposed to do?
Junior Mint
Member
Maybe give you the forecast for the week like it used to. Hell, at least for tomorrow.
I can look outside for the weather.
SmackCrackleNPop
Member
I just wish the Notification Center had a little more color to it. Otherwise it's fine.
Need more info? tap on the text with the weather information and it takes you into the Weather App.
Need more info? tap on the text with the weather information and it takes you into the Weather App.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I don't really need Widgets on my Home Screen, but if Apple were to implement them, I'd want them to look like that.
I'd probably keep just a couple of them. I wouldn't need every icon to be a widget. I'd really rather just have the current Weather icon just show the damn weather to match the clock and calendar for goodness sakes. But if I had a 4.7" iPhone and it let me use that space for some tasteful looking Widgets, sure I'd take advantage of it. Really all I'd want is weather and music for looks. But I don't require Widgets. Just a live weather icon is all really.
If they could have other shapes. Not just 1x1 or 2x2 but maybe some 4x1 or 3x1 or 3x2 depending on the content of the app.
Then again, I'm the kind of person who goes to the trouble of making sure all my icons are on one Homescreen. I did this when I was on Android and I do this on iOS and OS X now. One screen with folders. (And pages in folders helps a lot on iOS now) So I'd have to choose some icons to demote from the home screen.
The only problem would be on the iPad. When rotating the device, the icons reflow. Unlike on Android where it keeps the same grid and crams icons together. (At least last time I used it. Does Android have some magical widget reflowing algorithm now?) The concept video didn't show any way of reflowing correctly.
Of course there's probably no chance of Apple implementing them unless they watch this video and decide to hire the guy. Maybe it could become a Jailbreak hack instead.
I'd probably keep just a couple of them. I wouldn't need every icon to be a widget. I'd really rather just have the current Weather icon just show the damn weather to match the clock and calendar for goodness sakes. But if I had a 4.7" iPhone and it let me use that space for some tasteful looking Widgets, sure I'd take advantage of it. Really all I'd want is weather and music for looks. But I don't require Widgets. Just a live weather icon is all really.
If they could have other shapes. Not just 1x1 or 2x2 but maybe some 4x1 or 3x1 or 3x2 depending on the content of the app.
Then again, I'm the kind of person who goes to the trouble of making sure all my icons are on one Homescreen. I did this when I was on Android and I do this on iOS and OS X now. One screen with folders. (And pages in folders helps a lot on iOS now) So I'd have to choose some icons to demote from the home screen.
The only problem would be on the iPad. When rotating the device, the icons reflow. Unlike on Android where it keeps the same grid and crams icons together. (At least last time I used it. Does Android have some magical widget reflowing algorithm now?) The concept video didn't show any way of reflowing correctly.
Of course there's probably no chance of Apple implementing them unless they watch this video and decide to hire the guy. Maybe it could become a Jailbreak hack instead.