Daniel Bryan is the only one, but the seems more close to retire right now
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WWE Raw drops to lowest TV rating in 18 years
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Daniel Bryan is the only one, but the seems more close to retire right now
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Deleted member 47027
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Bryan's done. He's an anti-vaxxer who refused normal medical treatment and now is reaping the "benefits" of all of that. WWE doctors won't clear him, but his personal doctors will. That's pretty convenient.
You can't fix concussions and arm strength issues with some peppermint oil, bay leaves, and a healing poultice.
TheStruggler
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the fact that you think those story lines are worthwhile is where the real problem lies
You should probably keep this nonsense to community side.
Is there any proof of that beyond of the fact that DB is some sort of granola boy?
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Thanks for the tip. I don't want to get banned. I've edited my original post.
Dick Justice
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Ignore him, he's just working the gimmick.
Ninja Scooter
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Give him the potatoe. Show color the hard way.
UberTag
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If only 10% of him on Total Divas is real? One hundred percent guaranteed.
naw. He is way to charismatic, like he says "the cream will rise to the top". He would probably be in the position he was when he was with wwe, a top mid carder.
Master Thespian
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Wellness violations and stringent scripting would have ensured we never got Macho's spontaneous coke filled promos.
Liquidsnake
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This is legit funny. XD
if they gave macho man a script i bet you my bottom dollar that he will not follow it to a t. I can imagine him following the script at the start then going completely off the wall after he gets started.
Except Balor is something they explain and makes sense inside the show. It's silly but makes sense.
The dumb gimmicks on Raw are just dumb without a meaning to it.
It makes a world of difference.
funkystudent
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They didn't sell out Chicago? The markiest mark city there is?
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But Ill keep saying it. I think this trend is going to continue until a drastic change in the direction of the product.
IIRC House shows and Smackdown tapings have been pretty tanking for a while. I guess its finally trickling up to RAW
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But Ill keep saying it. I think this trend is going to continue until a drastic change in the direction of the product.
IIRC House shows and Smackdown tapings have been pretty tanking for a while. I guess its finally trickling up to RAW
Rafa=FedKilla
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No need to fret. All of the old nostalgia acts are returning this week to stand in the ring and talk. Undertaker, Austin, Flair, Michaels... hell, maybe even Vince himself will show up. Who could possibly resist such a lineup? Guaranteed to pop a massive rating.
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I'll be busy watching the ALCS and paying attention to election results. May check in on the Giants-Eagles game if the Jays are getting blown out.
Uno Venova
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Why can't I stop smiling.
Mix Master
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I try to watch but it mostly stays on mute. I used to live for Monday nights, and now i just dont care anymore.
I remember when the WCW shows would sell in the low 1,000s and they'd have to give away all the tickets, and even then everyone would be moved to the front.
Piston Hyundai
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First thing that came to my mind. Yea WWE needs a change and badly at that. They have the best roster in years and many of them get waisted if not on NXT. Such a shame I felt this coming since the fallout of Punk. Him leaving hurt the product a bit but now many moons later with the writing they have done in the past few months(If you can call it that) it's just been horrendous.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Yeah, I figured Smackdown would tank since it's just a horrible and boring retread of Raw.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Same. I used to get so mad when friends made Monday night plans I had to attend. Who hangs out on Mondays? Mondays were made for being annoyed at the start of the work week and watching goddamn wrestling. Now I don't care at all.
I feel like we're in another 1994-ish situation where Vince McMahon is making a goofy ass kids show with goofy ass characters, storylines, and gimmicks, and it's going to take numbers getting far worse before he listens to anyone and it gets better. I can't relate to anything going on on the main show anymore except the hope of another Brock Lesnar massacre. I'll even take old ass Randy Orton doing his massacres again.
I've been watching old Memphis wrestling clips on YouTube from the late 1980s and I don't even know what wrestling is trying to be these days.
I saw Eddie Gilbert legit run over Jerry Lawler in the parking lot with a car. Jerry get body slammed through a car windshield, and wrestlers throwing fucking fireballs in each other's faces. I read that people in the studio were calling the police on Eddie Gilbert after running over Lawler. I know it's all a work but there was some magic here where I honestly believed these guys wanted to kill each other for real.
I don't what WWE is. It isn't wrestling. And it isn't entertainment. They call them WWE superstars but not a damn one of them outside a small handful of the roster has done anything to earn that title. Everything is so saccharin, stale, and dumbed down to appeal to the largest number of advertisers.
I saw Eddie Gilbert legit run over Jerry Lawler in the parking lot with a car. Jerry get body slammed through a car windshield, and wrestlers throwing fucking fireballs in each other's faces. I read that people in the studio were calling the police on Eddie Gilbert after running over Lawler. I know it's all a work but there was some magic here where I honestly believed these guys wanted to kill each other for real.
I don't what WWE is. It isn't wrestling. And it isn't entertainment. They call them WWE superstars but not a damn one of them outside a small handful of the roster has done anything to earn that title. Everything is so saccharin, stale, and dumbed down to appeal to the largest number of advertisers.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I miss the absolute most basic, necessary part of weekly wrestling: characters actually responding to things that happened to them the week before. Characters caring if they won or lost.
The New Day destroyed four top guys to end Raw two weeks ago. Last week on Raw, they interacted with 0 of them.
Cesaro main evented two straight Raws against John Cena a couple of months ago. Now I can't even remember if he's on the show anymore. Why wouldn't Cesaro as a character have something to say about this?
Tawney Bomb
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Oh for sure. Will they have a better product is the real question.
I haven't watched WWE in a while now, but if something spurs them to change I'd give it a shot again.
So Monday's rating was a 2.3 wasn't it? I have to say watching the show it does deserve that because of how it's so formulaic. Being accustomed to 20 minute promos at the start, awful promos such as the one Reigns did, 50/50 booking, constant reminders of what happened 5 minutes ago, I just know what to expect and can't see an average viewer stay tuned.
As polarizing as Vince Russo is, he had a list of 10 structural things he would do to the show which were right on the money: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTz0zg3emI8
As polarizing as Vince Russo is, he had a list of 10 structural things he would do to the show which were right on the money: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTz0zg3emI8
WWE was at its most popular in the late 90s/early 2000s. They pushed the boundaries of what you would see on live television, but the current television audience no longer finds that appealing. It also doesn't help that like you said, they aren't creating Stone Cold Steve Austins anymore.
funkystudent
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WWE will survive. I am curious how their next quarterly results will be though.
TNA has been around longer then WCW and TNA has never actually made money. Think about that.
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will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
By "retire" do you mean fight CM Punk at UFC 210?
UberTag
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If your talent can't be bothered to pretend to care... then neither should your fans. Period.
Go run your little dog and pony show for your advertisers. See how they respond to your shrinking ratings and audiences.
Ted Turner got rid of WCW though. They could have had it run in a smaller capacity for a little while longer.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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99% sure WCW would still be around today if he hadn't sold to Time Warner. Who knows what wrestling would look like now.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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What's the point of Smackdown?
BeatnikGunsoo
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To tell the same fans who watched RAW that past Monday what they missed if they didn't watch RAW.
Also, to largely recycle the same matches and give some of the mid-card talent an opportunity to shine without being overshadowed by the likes of Cena, Brock, Triple H or other RAW-exclusive acts.
funkystudent
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It use to be about having 2 separate touring crews for house shows.
Now? I dunno. Havent sat down and watched it in years. Seemed like a holdover from a era thats passed. Another underused tool in WWE's tookbox.
I honestly can't even answer that now.
From the WWE's perspective, it's another TV deal that brings them more money.
But from a fan's standpoint? I haven't watched Smackdown in years and haven't felt the need to in a long time. It seems like you miss pretty much nothing by skipping Smackdown.
Nemesis121
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When they split the brands and put the nest wrestlers on Raw and gave Smackdown 1 decent wrestler i quit SD, probably been about 5 years since i watched SD..
What never makes sense to me is that Smackdown got bumped to the Friday deathslot and therefore ended up taped, then it went to a new network that will always love Smackdown because it brings their highest ratings, but they keep it in the Friday deathslot instead of moving it back to Thursday.
Yeah. I wanna say since I started watching WWE again about six years ago, I've never watched Smackdown, and never once felt like I was missing anything.
Yeah. I wanna say since I started watching WWE again about six years ago, I've never watched Smackdown, and never once felt like I was missing anything.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Smackdown is super weird, because you'll see matches on there first before they're repeated the next week on Raw. It happens every week. I don't understand it.
Smackdown's been on Thursdays for a long time now. I think it's even going Wednesday in 2016 when it goes to USA.
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