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WWE Raw drops to lowest TV rating in 18 years

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Anth0ny

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IMO, the way they should go is have Brock enter at #1 and absolutely destroy everyone else. It's never been done before and it gives Brock that unstoppable image he had before the Taker feud.

I'd be ok with this, but Brock already has an unstoppable image at this point. Taker is just close to his level.

Brock was completely BODYING the current world champion at last years mania and would have killed him with ease if the match wasn't interrupted.
 
If Brock is in the rumble whoever eliminates him will automatically get over for a few weeks so that would be some smart booking if handled right. Or it could be whoever he feuds with at mania. Or that person could just get destroyed ala Taker and Maven


Now watch Brock have a random pointless feud with some big monster like Big Show again.
 

Sephzilla

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If Brock is in the rumble whoever eliminates him will automatically get over for a few weeks so that would be some smart booking if handled right. Or it could be whoever he feuds with at mania. Or that person could just get destroyed ala Taker and Maven


Now watch Brock have a random pointless feud with some big monster like Big Show again.

Imagine the pop that would happen if Bryan came back and eliminated Brock
 

P44

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IMO, the way they should go is have Brock enter at #1 and absolutely destroy everyone else. It's never been done before and it gives Brock that unstoppable image he had before the Taker feud.

Bad idea

I would already say he's a bit too unstoppable at the moment - you don't want to create a situation where you literally can't book the guy to lose because its too unbelieveable; even with a screwy finish, the feud usually has to end clean just to wipe away the bad blood aspect.
 
Bad idea

I would already say he's a bit too unstoppable at the moment - you don't want to create a situation where you literally can't book the guy to lose because its too unbelieveable; even with a screwy finish, the feud usually has to end clean just to wipe away the bad blood aspect.

I forget, how did WCW eventually end the Goldberg thing?
 
I forget, how did WCW eventually end the Goldberg thing?

Scott Hall, dressed as event security, shocked him with a cattle prod, giving Kevin Nash a chance to powerbomb him.

This directly led to Hogan's "fingerpoke of doom" on Kevin Nash the next night on Nitro, and incidentally, the night that Mick Foley won the WWF Championship... Tony Schiavoni spoiled it, and the ratings shifted from Nitro back to RAW. The Nitro after is widely consider the beginning of the end for WCW, but a lot of fingerpoking has gone on as to whether the whole angle was drawn up by Nash and Hogan before Hogan lost to Goldberg six months before.
 

krae_man

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I still think they should have had Edge winthe 2010 Rumble by having everybody eliminated before he gets called at #30.

They didn't need to tease the telegraphed Jericho feud, especially considering they had to wait until he won the World Title at Elimination Chamber.

Just imagine. "Oh my god whoever gets called next is the Rumble winner who is it gonna be.10...9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...You think you know me"

Such a missed opportunity.

Bonus points if Kofi Kingston's music played only for Edge to come out and bear the crap out of him with a chair and take his place.
 
Imagine the pop that would happen if Bryan came back and eliminated Brock

I feel like WWE would just be asking for him to get another concussion if they put Bryan in a feud with Brock right away.

But if Bryan isnt at the Rumble I think its fair to say his in ring career in WWE is done.
 

Sephzilla

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I feel like WWE would just be asking for him to get another concussion if they put Bryan in a feud with Brock right away.

But if Bryan isnt at the Rumble I think its fair to say his in ring career in WWE is done.

Agreed. I could totally see Vince trying to keep him out of the Rumble this year if the plan was to have Roman win it again (so fans don't boo the piss out of him two years in a row). But since Roman is probably going to be champ up to WrestleMania now there's no real threat of Bryan fans booing the piss out of Roman since Roman won't be in the Rumble. So yeah, if Bryan isn't in the Royal Rumble this year then he's done.
 
I feel like WWE would just be asking for him to get another concussion if they put Bryan in a feud with Brock right away.

But if Bryan isnt at the Rumble I think its fair to say his in ring career in WWE is done.

Raw after Mania is Bryan's last chance, if he isn't there that would be the nail in the coffin.
 

Plinko

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IMO, the way they should go is have Brock enter at #1 and absolutely destroy everyone else. It's never been done before and it gives Brock that unstoppable image he had before the Taker feud.

And further bury the roster? Not a fan of that in the least. Brock still has the unstoppable image. Having your Rumble idea only devalues everyone else.
 
I still think they should have had Edge winthe 2010 Rumble by having everybody eliminated before he gets called at #30.
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Never even liked Edge that much till he had to retire then that and him becoming a main character on one of my favorite shows(Haven) made me go back and watch a lot of his stuff.
Really sad I didn't appreciate him when he was out there.
 

Verendus

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Barack Lesnar is winning that Roman Rumble baby girls. It's Reigns vs. Lesnar II, The One Man vs. The Beast, The Next Big Thing vs. The Never a Big Thing, 2016 Edition, at Wrasslin'Mania 32. The greatest main event the show has seen since Wrasslin'Mania 17.

It's gonna be epic. It's gonna be bloody. It's gonna be special.

Balee.
 

Sephzilla

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You might want to brush up on your Royal Rumble history, the only person to have done that is Shawn Michaels.

Oh come on, you don't remember the amazing time VACANT won and went on to become champion?

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acrid

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Barack Lesnar is winning that Roman Rumble baby girls. It's Reigns vs. Lesnar II, The One Man vs. The Beast, The Next Big Thing vs. The Never a Big Thing, 2016 Edition, at Wrasslin'Mania 32. The greatest main event the show has seen since Wrasslin'Mania 17.

It's gonna be epic. It's gonna be bloody. It's gonna be special.

Balee.
Lol, no no no....

#1 will be Cena and he will either eliminate #2-30 as they enter, or he'll let all other 29 guys get in the ring and then eliminate them ALL at the same time. I'm thinking he'll just stack them all on each other and lift the mass of humanity tossing them all at once, or he may just lift the ring over his head and dump everyone out.

Ratings are tanking, they're going to get that belt back on him ASAP.
 

FyreWulff

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WCW basically got out of the Goldberg streak in the worst way possible

But they also shat on their fans by adding mystery wins in between shows

They should have either got the belt off him in a multi-man title match with him not being pinned, or make a SUPER obvious heel cheat win by having the shit beat out of him in the ring in a no DQ match by just throwing the entire world at him. The cattle prod out of nowhere was lame.
 

UberTag

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Raw after Mania is Bryan's last chance, if he isn't there that would be the nail in the coffin.
As far as I'm concerned he's already retired, but just for the sake of some yuks, when does his WWE contract expire? (I have to imagine he would balk at the non-compete clause given that other performers have thumbed their nose at it in recent years and faced no repercussions).

Cena winning the Rumble, isn't he?
Whoever is winning the Rumble, we'll have a pretty good idea early in the new year because the WWE telegraphs the fuck out of the winner beforehand. Because who would want actual suspense in the outcome of that match for once?

I still think it'll be Triple H. But you can make a case for Cena and Brock as well.
You probably can't make a case for anyone else.
 

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Whoever is winning the Rumble, we'll have a pretty good idea early in the new year because the WWE telegraphs the fuck out of the winner beforehand. Because who would want actual suspense in the outcome of that match for once?

I still think it'll be Triple H. But you can make a case for Cena and Brock as well.
You probably can't make a case for anyone else.

Of Course.

Y'know I wish they would clear D-Bry but, it'll take away the heat from Reigns. Gotta make him look strong.
 
They gotta give Reigns his win back over Lesnar so Lesnar wins the Rumble. Reigns is the new Cena. You guys must have missed him single handedly taking out the whole league of nations last night.
 

UberTag

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They gotta give Reigns his win back over Lesnar so Lesnar wins the Rumble. Reigns is the new Cena. You guys must have missed him single handedly taking out the whole league of nations last night.
It's a sound argument. Cena always gets his wins back. Usually multiple times over (as Del Rio shall soon find out). And, since Reigns is the new Cena, it only stands to reason that Brock should now be expected to job to him at Mania and probably twice more after that.

Then again, Brock is kind of his own special butterfly. So I'm not so sure the "will get the win back" logic applies here.
 
Vince has been hell bent on putting Reigns over and protecting him over the last two years, business be damned. There is no chance he is not closing Wrestlemania next year as champion. None.
 

UberTag

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Vince has been hell bent on putting Reigns over and protecting him over the last two years, business be damned. There is no chance he is not closing Wrestlemania next year as champion. None.
This was always a foregone conclusion... although I wouldn't go so far as to say "no chance" given the WWE's recent injury woes. Reigns isn't immune to those, either.

But yeah, he's leaving Mania as champ unless he's on the shelf.
 
I saw a recent interview of his. Thank God he left that look behind. He looks ready for at least a retirement run. The one he deserves in the WWE.

Dudes neck is made of gingerbread. He shouldnt have been even wrestling for his last few years in TNA.

WWE are not going to give him a final in ring run unless they want to shout to the world that they dont give 2 fucks about their performers health.
 

RBH

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Cena returns on the 12/28 Raw from the Barclays Center, challenging Del Rio for the U.S. title. They also did a Facebook video teasing a six-man weigh Reigns & Usos vs. The League of Nations, and locally were advertising a six-man tag team match for that show (although what WWE advertises locally for TV usually has nothing to do with what will be on the show since the advertising goes out weeks in advance and the show isn't written until the last few days–yes, I know, perhaps they shouldn't then advertise things in advance if they aren't going to deliver them). WWE hasn't sold out a Raw event in North America since the last time they were in the Barclays Center in August, but given it's the New York market and the week after Christmas has been WWE's best week for arena events historically, they are expected to sell this one out.
-Wrestling Observer Newsletter
 

RBH

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Monday Night's Raw show at the Barclays Center, featuring the return of John Cena, is now officially sold out.

The event sold out yesterday, with 13,000 tickets sold.

Cena vs Albert Del Rio headlines the show.

There has only been one major arena Raw sellout since the last time the company ran the Barclays Center, on Aug. 24, the day after SummerSlam, which was the 11/9 show from Manchester, England.

Prior to SummerSlam, the prior legitimate Raw sellout was on April 13 at the O2 Arena in London. Prior to that it was the March 30 show in San Jose, the day after WrestleMania. Leading up to WrestleMania, Raw sold out frequently, including four of the five Mondays in March.
http://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/mondays-raw-sold-out-john-cena-return-204421
 
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