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WWE Raw drops to lowest TV rating in 18 years

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dream

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Interesting that people were expecting the Iowa caucus to hurt Monday Night Raw's ratings. American professional wrestling fans do not strike me as people who are interested in things such as politics or culture.
 

Anth0ny

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of course they're going to blame the caucus

I'm pretty sure even last week's 2.93, which was full of post rumble hype and a 25 minute rock segment, was still way down from the year before.

this trend is just going to continue until there is a fundamental change in how the show is produced and written.
 

Kaladin

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of course they're going to blame the caucus

I'm pretty sure even last week's 2.93, which was full of post rumble hype and a 25 minute rock segment, was still way down from the year before.

this trend is just going to continue until there is a fundamental change in how the show is produced and written.

Something something Kevin Dunn.
 

UberTag

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Interesting that people were expecting the Iowa caucus to hurt Monday Night Raw's ratings. American professional wrestling fans do not strike me as people who are interested in things such as politics or culture.
There's always an excuse. That was just the one trotted out for this week's ratings failure.
Next week it'll be some nonsense about a post-Super Bowl hangover.
 

Kaladin

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Interesting that people were expecting the Iowa caucus to hurt Monday Night Raw's ratings. American professional wrestling fans do not strike me as people who are interested in things such as politics or culture.

Please, the Iowa caucus was booked 1,000 times better than the Royal Rumble. We had all sorts of fun angles leading into that double main event and this year they even had some true heels on both sides of the isle.
 

SaviorX

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So with HHH as champ once again,Raw has seen its lowest ratings of all-time.

Cherry-picking, and it ignores a variety of other outside factors, but let me have my fun.
 

dream

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Please, the Iowa caucus was booked 1,000 times better than the Royal Rumble. We had all sorts of fun angles leading into that double main event and this year they even had some true heels on both sides of the isle.

True, but I can't see American pro wrestling fans caring about "boring politics." There's no chanting involved, and they'd rather watch women wrestlers get slut shamed.
 

UberTag

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But didn't the ratings drop when he was champ? so it seems more of a general decline in the business than anything
Daniel Bryan's tenure as champ was largely dominated by him getting beat up repeatedly by Kane.
Of course the ratings would tank. That was BY DESIGN. They wanted him to fail and prove that they were right and that their fans were wrong.
 
Daniel Bryan's tenure as champ was largely dominated by him getting beat up repeatedly by Kane.
Of course the ratings would tank. That was BY DESIGN. They wanted him to fail and prove that they were right and that their fans were wrong.

So basically, ratings are used a gauge of the effectiveness of a wrestler when it's convenient for the argument


gotcha
 

Hasney

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Please, the Iowa caucus was booked 1,000 times better than the Royal Rumble. We had all sorts of fun angles leading into that double main event and this year they even had some true heels on both sides of the isle.

Clearly need to bring back a coin toss.

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Bronx-Man

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Please, the Iowa caucus was booked 1,000 times better than the Royal Rumble. We had all sorts of fun angles leading into that double main event and this year they even had some true heels on both sides of the isle.

No lies detected. The election is drawing some really good heat, feels reminiscent of WMX-7.
 
At some point, they have to start making changes. I'm sure the excuse tossed around in the back right now is the long list of injured wrestlers, but even if they had everyone healthy, it'd still be the same old shit. I seriously don't think there will be any changes until Vince dies.
 

Hasney

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yes! that's how it's always been.

roman ain't catching any heat for these numbers. it's everyone else who's at fault.

Fucking creative is who should be taking the fall over Reigns. They've not done a compelling broadcast for more than a single straight week in close to 2 years now. I can only be arsed to watch segments of it if someone mentions that a match was good.
 
So with HHH as champ once again,Raw has seen its lowest ratings of all-time.

Cherry-picking, and it ignores a variety of other outside factors, but let me have my fun.

Should he take all the blame? No. But the extremely dull authority storyline and HHH's over protective booking that will give no rub or payoff down the road is a big reason. A heel that has been attacked unprovoked twice by Roman and comes back and wins the RR plus the title clean.
 

UberTag

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At some point, they have to start making changes. I'm sure the excuse tossed around in the back right now is the long list of injured wrestlers, but even if they had everyone healthy, it'd still be the same old shit. I seriously don't think there will be any changes until Vince dies.
Why would they have to make any changes?

Vince loves his product.
Bonnie Hammer and USA loves his product.
The scam artists at Susan G. Komen love his product.
The WWE's shareholders love his product.
The Make-A-Wish Foundation loves his product.
Their advertisers love his product.
ESPN loves his product.
Apparently, lots of fans LOVE his product because they keep signing up for free months of the WWE Network.

So who really cares whether ratings keep dropping or if the product isn't watchable? The people that matter are happy.
 

FyreWulff

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WWE needs a competitor. I don't think even a separate non-NXT brand, like they were originally going to do with WCW Nitro, would be enough. Because Vince would supercontrol the second brand too.

Sinclair TV is too risk averse and Panda Energy don't give no fucks.
 

Kaladin

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Sinclair TV is too risk averse and Panda Energy don't give no fucks.

Sinclair TV just bought The Tennis Channel, a network with a lot of clearance. From what I read they're turning it into a vehicle for all of their sports programming, likely including Ring of Honor.
 
Sinclair TV just bought The Tennis Channel, a network with a lot of clearance. From what I read they're turning it into a vehicle for all of their sports programming, likely including Ring of Honor.

There will NEVER be another WCW level competitor for the simple reason the TV landscape can't handle more than one prominent wrestling show

there is a reason there is only one pro football, basketball, baseball.... league
 

Acerac

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I don't know how people watch RAW live, I only watch the condensed 1.5 hour Hulu version and even then I forward through most of it as it's just really bad. I've got to the point where I just tell my brother to only watch the PPVs

The key is playing a game that takes up most of your attention. That way you can just glance over if/when something interesting is happening.
 

FyreWulff

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There will NEVER be another WCW level competitor for the simple reason the TV landscape can't handle more than one prominent wrestling show

there is a reason there is only one pro football, basketball, baseball.... league

Ain't gonna speak to the other ones, but the reason there's only the NFL is because Congress is helping them out.
 
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Queen of Hunting

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they are nearlly at tna's all time highs haha, who thought that line would ever be said
 

Kaladin

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There will NEVER be another WCW level competitor for the simple reason the TV landscape can't handle more than one prominent wrestling show

there is a reason there is only one pro football, basketball, baseball.... league

Don't let WWE fool you. Wrestling is more entertainment than sport. There most certainly can be another huge national wrestling organization going.
 
There will NEVER be another WCW level competitor for the simple reason the TV landscape can't handle more than one prominent wrestling show

there is a reason there is only one pro football, basketball, baseball.... league

A prominent wrestling company can exist in streaming services. With regular TV dying, a wrestling show other than WWE on Netflix or Hulu would be great. Lucha Underground would fit the format really well.
 

FyreWulff

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Also, all you really need is a good timeslot. What ultimately put WCW in the grave was losing their prime timeslot.

If the WWE lost their USA timeslot they'd be fucked.
 

Anth0ny

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Why would they have to make any changes?

Vince loves his product.
Bonnie Hammer and USA loves his product.
The scam artists at Susan G. Komen love his product.
The WWE's shareholders love his product.
The Make-A-Wish Foundation loves his product.
Their advertisers love his product.
ESPN loves his product.
Apparently, lots of fans LOVE his product because they keep signing up for free months of the WWE Network.

So who really cares whether ratings keep dropping or if the product isn't watchable? The people that matter are happy.

And remember, Roman is over at the house shows. Mission accomplished.
 

Couleurs

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Hahaha, blaming the Iowa Caucus coverage for weak ratings, that's a good one. Looking forward to them blaming the WNBA Allstar Game next
 
A prominent wrestling company can exist in streaming services. With regular TV dying, a wrestling show other than WWE on Netflix or Hulu would be great. Lucha Underground would fit the format really well.

Lucha and all these other small companies can exist and be profitable but they will always just have a small fraction of the WWE audience, there is just too much content in 2016, that's why Vince says they have to compete with everything on TV
 

yuraya

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They are so lucky they don't compete with anything other than MNF throughout the year. If there was anything else of significance on Mondays they would get wrecked even harder. Such a shit show. 3 hours of garbage.

Vince should just ask comcast for a 4th hour. Two commercial breaks during every match + more long segments of people talking on the mic without generating any significant feuds.
 
I do wonder if wrestling has peaked. Like, is there anything that could be done to get non-wrestling fans into it the way they did during the Monday Night Wars/Attitude Era? I often wonder how much of that was a happy accident and lightning in a bottle.
 

Kaladin

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I do wonder if wrestling has peaked. Like, is there anything that could be done to get non-wrestling fans into it the way they did during the Monday Night Wars/Attitude Era? I often wonder how much of that was a happy accident and lightning in a bottle.

One could argue they had it with Daniel Bryan, but we'll never know for sure.
 
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