Mystique only saved Wolverine from drowning, she never knew that Stryker would experiment on him. It was just a tease that the coming movies dont rely on the original trilogy story-wise and that nearly everything is possible now.
For me it's less about the movie's quality and more about what it did wrong:
- killed off Cyclops and Xavier
- demutated Rouge, Mystique and Magneto (although the ending suggested he still has the powers)
- made Jaggernaut a mutant (I know previous movies weren't faithful to the canon either, but c'mon - Jaggernaut's shtick is that he hates mutants and the source of his powers is magic)
- ruined the possibilities for Phoenix Saga that the previous movie set up
- ruined an interesting idea for the story that was the mutant cure
My take on that X3 is that it's a really really dumb movie, that wastes every good opportunity Singer set up in X2, but still kind of fun on its own with a couple good bits. I'm totally fine with Xavier dying and think it adds stakes to the threat that Jean (sometimes, when the writers remember her) poses But Scott's death was so weirdly abrupt -- and off screen! -- that, the first time I saw the movie, I didn't even he was dead until the credits started rolling. I kept expecting him to show up at some point :lol
As a means to make you "hear" the emphasis I'm putting on words.
It's how they're typically used. Bolds are to make sure I grab your eye and possibly slow you down as you scroll past hurriedly in a rush to blurt out your opinion without actually reading anything anyone else is saying.
I basically write how I talk.
At least you guys aren't driving-by on twitter with this bullshit. Had to block some lurking weirdo hitting me up at 5am on twitter because he was really concerned by my using italics on the off-topic section of a gaming forum.
I thought this one was much better and funnier too. The blowing
kisses ti Moira and the dog scene were hilarious and it did a good job of showing that even though he's crazy fast, he can't save everyone...
Although they can't do it a third time, the well ran dry after this movie. They need to figure out a better way to showcase QS without making him an instant win button in almost all encounters.
i don't really care about a jubilee chili fries cut or whatever, the rogue cut sucked and hurt the pacing of dofp tbh. would like to see that scene on the dvd extras though.
i don't really care about a jubilee chili fries cut or whatever, the rogue cut sucked and hurt the pacing of dofp tbh. would like to see that scene on the dvd extras though.
I quite liked Rogue Cut. Added in some much needed scenes like how the Sentinels found them towards the end of the movie. Also gave Bobby a better death.
I quite liked Rogue Cut. Added in some much needed scenes like how the Sentinels found them towards the end of the movie. Also gave Bobby a better death.
Same, not too many seem to agree, but I'll be watching the Rogue Cut moving forward assuming I have a choice. Unsurprisingly it's the added Mystique stuff that sucks all the fun out of the room. I like that Kitty's injury serves a purpose as well.
Now I know these movies are completely fucked in terms of continuity, but can anyone tell me why Singer couldn't even adhere to his own prequel? You know, the thing with Mystique as Stryker?
Mystique used Stryker's identity and resources to rescue Wolverine, that's what we saw. Use your imagination about how he thanked her for it and went on his merry way.
I thought this one was much better and funnier too. The blowing
kisses ti Moira and the dog scene were hilarious and it did a good job of showing that even though he's crazy fast, he can't save everyone...
Although they can't do it a third time, the well ran dry after this movie. They need to figure out a better way to showcase QS without making him an instant win button in almost all encounters.
To be fair it was the same thing with Civil War, we got tickets a few hours before on opening night and the theater wasn't packed, it was a 9pm showing.
Overall verdict: I liked it, though it has flaws. Anyway, on a point-by-point basis:
+ Magneto: Has a really strong arc, and great acting by Michael Fassbender. I really like the scene
where his family is killed, because it shows the best sort of nuanced characterization that Singer has brought to these movies; the people that come to arrest him are not psychos or anything like that, and the deaths of his family happen by accident. In a lot of stories they'd just be a bunch of goons who machine-gun the place.
+ Apocalypse: A lot of the reviews really don't like Apocalypse, and describe Oscar Isaac as wasted. Now, for fans of Isaac's ace dramatic work, I guess maybe you could think that, since Apocalypse isn't a complex character or anything; but I think Isaac does a really good job playing this guy who thinks he's a god. He's got presence, and his recruitment drive, culminating in the first scene
where he launches all the world's nuclear weapons, are great sequences.
+ Scott & Jean: These two are done way better than they were in the original trilogy. Strong casting in both cases, and Jean, especially, has a really good arc, though her introduction is perhaps a little abrupt. But what an ending.
+ Nightcrawler: A more minor character, but his intro is nice enough, and the actor handles both the comedy and more serious sides of the character well, what we see of them.
+ Professor X: Doesn't have as big a role here as in the previous films, but he's definitely arrived more or less at his optimal form. And unlike previous team movies that had to take him completely out of commission for the climax, here he's got a real role to play that doesn't impair other characters either. Nicely done.
+ Mystique: Ah, the ever-controversial character. For those who really hate the trailer suggestion that she's team leader, etc., that isn't the case, for what it's worth. She's an ensemble player here. She also has a workable arc, one that actually incorporates the complaints people made about why she isn't in her blue form more. This feels like a good resolution to the character's arc over the previous movies. Though it will be kind of awkward if she's not in future installments.
- Moira: I loved Rose Byrne in First Class, and she's fine here; I like that it resolves one of the more dubious aspects of FC's end. If things were different, I'd be fine with her being in the movie in what is clearly intended as a side role. But with some other aspects of the movie clearly needing more time, I think she should have been dropped and that time shuffled elsewhere. She's ultimately not needed.
- Quicksilver: His big mansion rescue sequence is fun, but it's not as good as the DOFP sequence, and I feel it's tonally out of place with what immediately preceded it.
Beyond that, the arc of him looking for his father just fizzles without any real payoff. Now in a sense I actually like the script avoiding what many people predicted as a trite resolution where Magneto is swayed away from Apocalypse by learning he still has a son, but there really needed to be some payoff to this arc.
- Storm: I'd call this the movie's single-biggest missed opportunity. First, the positive: Alexandra Shipp seems well-cast; the accent is good, and the character has a pretty solid introduction. Moreover, in interviews Singer outlined a vision for Storm's role in this story that I think would have worked, if there'd been enough time, namely, showing a sort of troubled youth drawn to a cult leader. One could infer from that that she'd see the error of her ways and switch sides. And yeah, that happens, but it's barely dramatized. The character virtually vanishes after her introduction in Egypt. As the contours of the plot became clearer over the course of production/advertising, I figured we would see Storm interacting with the captured Professor X and being convinced that the path she was on wasn't right. That's what they should have done. When I say they should have dropped Moira, they should have used the saved time to give Storm a proper arc. I guess they could also have dropped Quicksilver, if they weren't going to fine-tune his story more.
Watched it last night, I actually liked it.
I mean, yes, it has the nuance and subtlety of killing a fly with a rocket launcher, some dubious CGI in places, some actors (gave up at some point and) totally phoned it in, and sadly a few characters are absolutely paper-thin (which would be expected, considering the amount). But I dunno, found it fun. Maybe it just was the amazing X2 theme that fooled me though.
Also, Apocalypse totally failed in his Immortan Joe impersonation.
Hell no. I work at a newspaper but that doesn't make me a journalist. I recap movies, oversee the calendar, and write opinion pieces every now and again.
And since we're doing the ranking thing:
THE X-MEN MOVIES, IN ORDER ACCORDING TO QUALITY
1) X-Men: First Class
2) X2: X-Men United
3) X-Men: Days of Future Past
4) Deadpool
5) X-Men: Apocalypse
6) The Wolverine
7) X-Men
8) X-Men: The Last Stand
9) X-Men Origins: Wolverine
(Jesus, there's been nine of these fuckin things already)
Gonna see it on Sunday. I'm excited. Not expecting a great movie, just a passable one that is hopefully fun at times.
That's what Xmen movie fans like myself have to hope for. The piece of shit that is the Thor franchise merely adopted the disappointing entry. I was born in it. Molded by it.
Gonna see it on Sunday. I'm excited. Not expecting a great movie, just a passable one that is hopefully fun at times.
That's what Xmen movie fans like myself have to hope for. The piece of shit that is the Thor franchise merely adopted the disappointing entry. I was born in it. Molded by it.
I enjoyed the movie a lot more than I thought I would. Its actually pretty damn good all things considered. Singer pretty much made a live action comic book (in some ways it felt like an episode of the cartoon), and I mean that in the best possible way.
I'd rate it an 8/10. Great summer popcorn movie.
Between bvs, Civil War, and Apocalypse, I think this was my favorite by a smidge. I just had more fun watching it.
I liked it, however the opening titles pretty much set the stage for the movie. Fox pretty much threw money away for tons of CGI and to make the film "bigger".
It lacks the themes of past X-Men movies, character motivations (mostly Magneto and Apocalypse) are weak as fuck. It's a summer blockbuster movie that also has tons of X-Men stuff, some good action, and you shouldn't expect much else from it. All of the characters and seemed in line with who they should be for the most part. The world after DoFP feels believable and even little details you probably begin to criticize will be dealt with later. It doesn't set up anything aside from Wolverine stuff, so it's a completely independent film.
If you like X-Men and have 2 hours to spare, go see the movie. There's some fairly entertaining parts and character interactions that justify the ticket price. For a number I would give it a 6.5/10 = see on a matinee
Also did anyone else laugh hysterically at the
"you're in my house now." "You're going to need a bigger house"
exchange or was it just me and my friend? Because after cracking up we looked around and everyone was dead quiet.
I thought Magneto's motivation was well-done, though I think people can disagree on that. But regarding Apocalypse, what he wants is pretty straightforward, and totally in line with the comics. Now, if you just don't like Apocalypse as a villain, I understand that. But he seemed, to me, pretty spot-on for what you'd have Apocalypse do in a movie.
I'm still mildly excited to see this Saturday despite the rottentomato score...
Can someone tell me if the movie at least does Storm justice for once with a new actress playing her? Is she tough, fierce, and uses her powers in a way that shows she's a real threat?
Cap is my favorite on screen superhero, but Storm is still my favorite comic book character. The old movies got a lot right (Magneto, Xavier, Wolvie, Jean Grey) but they butchered Storm.
I'm still mildly excited to see this Saturday despite the rottentomato score...
Can someone tell me if the movie at least does Storm justice for once with a new actress playing her? Is she tough, fierce, and uses her powers in a way that shows she's a real threat?
Cap is my favorite on screen superhero, but Storm is still my favorite comic book character. The old movies got a lot right (Magneto, Xavier, Wolvie, Jean Grey) but they butchered Storm.