X-Men Apocalypse Review Thread

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It really feels like Singer doesn't know how to get characters right outside of Xavier, Magneto, and Wolverine. I really wanted him to get Apocalypse, but it's a shame that it doesn't seem to be the case.
 
Ridley327 said:
I'm sure it would probably involve spoilers if you went too far into details (I don't care, but the Sculli Plague has taken an entire generation at this point), but would you attribute the film's problems to what Kinberg wrote or to how Singer approached the script?
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I think it's both, honestly. It's just kinda sprawling and sloppy. It's indulgent.

There are emotional moments that work really well, and then there are moments where you're just kinda pushing through all this plot.

(to be fair, Civil War even has a bit of this. Not as much as Apocalypse, though)

It just seems like the best shorthand to use here at GAF would be to say Singer finally got to make the X3 he wanted to make. That it's got some DNA in common with X3 is going to be alarming to some, there's no way around that. But it's a much, much better X3 than that movie was.

It's overstuffed, overlong, and sloppy. It's also got a lot of moments that are fun as hell to watch, and the characters are actual characters and not just plot points in drab costumes. There are surprises in here.

BrightLightLava said:
Bobby, all I want to know is:

Does Cyclops shoot fire again, or do his beams come from the punch dimension?
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They burn.
 
ratcliffja said:
It really feels like Singer doesn't know how to get characters right outside of Xavier, Magneto, and Wolverine. I really wanted him to get Apocalypse, but it's a shame that it doesn't seem to be the case.
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Honestly, I haven't read too many complaints about Apocalypse so far.



It might be because Apocalypse is barely a character in the source material.
 
Tertullian said:
Called this when I saw the trailer.

The first DoFP trailer was awesome. It suggested the movie would have some seriously great character moments. "Please. We need you to hope again."

The Apocalypse trailer was like "All these guys get together to fight a big purple guy. He's, like, really powerful." Nothing interesting. Seemingly just a piece of product.
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Crazy we can predict the quality of movies based on trailers these days.

If that's the case Suicide Squad and Dr.Strange will both be awesome.
 
SCChappy said:
God damnit

DoFP was so good how did this come out like this
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Because the film is corny as shit and generally badly acted. Which the trailers heavily implied. DOFP suuposedly bad trailer good movie what threw people off this time. In this case mediocre trailer mediocre movie.
 
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Man what is with this trend of bloated 150 minute comic movies. Civil War came out better than BvS but that also felt like a slog at times

3 in a row 2 and a half hour movies that feel like their length.
 
Damn I thought mystiques lines were kinda corny in the trailer, but I still had faith in the movie, especially after Doftp.

Now I'm a bit worried. Still gonna see it though.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
"Makes X-Men: The Last Stand look like the fuckin' Incredibles"

wow
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WHOA. From these reviews, the movie sounds as bad as the trailers look.

anaron said:
prepare for a million garbage "time to go back to Marvel baby!!!!" posts/threads
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I don't know why you all are being like this. It's not like people weren't saying that same damn thing even when the X-Men films were reviewing and grossing well. People were saying that after DOFP wrecked face... So yeah, they will probably definitely say it if this film is bad. Just ignore it. Deadpool made 700 mill in damn near pure profit. This movie could tank and we don't have to worry about less diversity in our CB Movies (which is what disney getting the rights would mean) Geez.

Nyanmaruz said:
Deadpool was good.
BvS was bad.
Civil War was good.
Apocalypse is bad.

Are we seeing a pattern here? Suicide Squad has to be good right?
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Yep. I think it's happening. Suicide is going to be fucking great. I feel it in my bones man. I fucking feel it.

Edit: If Dr. Strange is bad, so be it. MCU is due a bad film anyway. The Thor films normally fill that niche but it's been a while.
 
Legitimately shocked that we may be finally bucking the Singer trend of 'Bad Trailer > Low Anticipation > Great Reviews > Surprisingly Great Movie > Mediocre Film' in hindsight.

At least that's how it's been for me. I don't like Singer's vision for the X-Men in the slightest, and I find everything he's done borderline unwatchable after my first viewing, with the barely possible exception of X2.

Yes, the Fassbender/McAvoy/Stewart/Mckellen dynamics are often worth the price of admission - but it doesn't hold all this mediocrity surrounding them together.

Still gonna watch the film and make up my own mind, but at least my expectations are properly set this time. I find it legit puzzling that some people still hold FC and DoFP in high regard.
 
Markitron said:
It's either going to be a GotG-level surprise or a F4-level disaster.
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Seeing the trailer before Civil War, that was exactly my thought on SS.

"If this movie actually delivers on being as fun as this trailer wants you to think this film is, then it's going to be great. On the other hand, if they are showing us all of the jokes and the rest is grim... Ooof."

Count me as cautiously optimistic (and I'd definitely prefer it to be good) but also among those not surprised if it sucks.
 
Nyanmaruz said:
Deadpool was good.
BvS was bad.
Civil War was good.
Apocalypse is bad.

Are we seeing a pattern here? Suicide Squad has to be good right?
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TMNT 2 is before Suicide Squad, so I'm not so sure. In fact, I'm actually scared for Suicide Squad if the pattern rings true.
 
MattKeil said:
It really isn't. DoFP is good moments with lackluster overall execution. The film peaks at the Quicksilver scene and never hits that level again, and it (and the new one, it seems) suffers from the same thing all Singer X-Men movies suffer from: The refusal and/or inability to show the X-Men work as a team in large battle sequences. The battle against the future sentinels is definitely a step forward in that regard, but you're still left with the fact that we don't know any of the characters in that fight very well.

Coming off of Civil War it's no wonder standard issue Singer action scenes feel underwhelming to several critics. Singer still uses the old "character does thing, cut to another character doing thing, repeat" technique that superhero movies used back in the pre-MCU days, and has yet to break out of it. I mean even BvS, lackluster as it was as a film, shows all three heroes tackling the big bad as a group and with kinetic direction. That's just not something I associate with X-Men films, and there's no reason that should be.

Also the constant obsession with trying to make Mystique happen. Indiana, let it go.
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Excellent summary
 
I'd have to say that post the first viewing, DoFP was mostly good when it was in the future with the old cast members + a few new additions (Blink, Sunspot, etc). When it returns to the past, I want to FFd it so I can see the future crew again.
 
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