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X Rebirth |OT| Back In The Womb With You
- Thread starter Alex Connolly
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The gamepad support isn't proof that the game was ever planned for consoles (Big Picture is a thing after all), and neither is the "Xbox" string in shaders. Egosoft might have used shaders written by somebody else that just happen to contain console specific stuff. Not that I'd rule out the possibility, but what has been discovered so far is in no way decisive.
Alex Connolly
Member
I'm staying aboard the Rebirth starship, as leaky as it is right now. Not so much a question of hype biting my posterior - even though it was my most anticipated title - but the fact is, there's so much to like DESPITE the limp floor show regarding stuff that is easily fixed.
It'll be one of those long-legged games, but we just need EGOSOFT and modders to flip the semi-cooked morsel a few times in the pan.
It'll be one of those long-legged games, but we just need EGOSOFT and modders to flip the semi-cooked morsel a few times in the pan.
cascardian
Member
That's fair enough, though in light of the things presented Egosoft forums thread, I believe it to be a relatively weak counterargument. Granted, the evidence so far is all circumstantial, so I probably worded my post too strongly (and I apologise for that), but the accusations are not unfounded. In any case, this is not a court of law, we don't get to pass sanctioning judgement and we will likely never hear the full official answer to the matter anyway, so we'll have to make do with what we've got. It doesn't really matter, too, because it is merely one of the indicators of the origin of all the problems present in the product. It doesn't address them--that's what should be happening, though, and I'm sure people would appreciate the additional pressure on Egosoft if major outlets would finally review the game.
Wow, what a piece of crap. Conspiracy theory at its finest.
Everything I've read is beyond just bugs. It's not only broken in that regard but has terrible gameplay decisions.
Doubt anyone will honestly leave the game forever. It's a niche title for a niche audience. People, including myself, is just kind of upset on the level of which the game is broken.
For instance at this stage I can't touch superhighways without trying like 5 times with saving/ loading due to being pushed billions of KM away from the exit point.
Or how the I experienced the third 'endless' escort mission today. That's 3/4 missions bugged which has nothing to do with the main campaign.
Just like the last two big titles I bought (Rome 2, BF4) this game is going to the 'wait until fixed' pile.
Not anymore.
Their inhouse engine has Xbox360 references for the very first time and it works perfectly with a gamepad but not a keyboard.
What? It works fine on keyboard? I started out with the pad but prefer to play X:RB with the m/kb.
Alex Connolly
Member
Even if it is the case, and it kinda looks that way, I don't think there's any problem once the game is brought up to speed on PC. Outside of bugs etc., the real bottleneck for me is menu/UI issues. For all the dryness of XTC, that was a game that had a UI modus operandi that was relatively succinct, given the complexities. I'd like the same replicated in Rebirth.
Agreed on all counts. No apologist business here.
Tell you what, though, it makes me even more relieved that the OP was as to the point and free of PR horseshit as it could have possibly been.
chickdigger802
Banned
Yep this for someone that enjoys the occasional space game, This is pretty broke design wise in many ways besides all the bugs.
Alex Connolly
Member
I think it's too early to judge what kind of experience this game offers. Once all the gears are oiled and bugs are squashed, then we'll see what's on the table. Then, with any luck, we'll get our massive mod overhauls like the Xtended suite.
MakeshiftChef
Member
I've managed to spend about eight hours with it so far. I find myself coming back to it constantly in spite of the bugs and sometimes poor performance. I am looking forward to seeing what becomes of the game as time moves forward.
Well, you had problem choosing the right country... so hush
I blame the positioning of the "ready" button.
Maybe Egosoft could make a pile of cash by having a sale of TC and AP
They did a Humble Weekly a few weeks ago. Also, judging by the Steam charts and some charts I saw somewhere at some point, this is already the best selling X title by 232392439239%. Just wonder how much of that is refunds.
chickdigger802
Banned
kinda wish the marketing reflected off this lol. I came in expecting a buggy but good space accessible sim game. I got was a super buggy nebula of ideas and concepts.
maybe if they had like a mass effect budget, they could have pulled it off. I think i'd been a bit more forgiving if this was $20 I guess.
But I'm not too mad. I actually have a good batting record of enjoying most games that i bought at launch.
probably should have waited for impressions before buying this. learned my lesson!
Alex Connolly
Member
Funnily enough, I've only had one severely bad preorder experience, and that was with Sword of the Stars 2. So, guess it's glass half full for even the most buggy of launches compared to that unfortunate monstrosity.
Anyone playing this in free play mode. How are you actually supposed to get started earning credits? The only real ways I can see are
Running easy enough missions to complete with your starter equipment. Could be tricky given how often they bug out.
Shooting endlessly respawning cans in the empty. Not what I signed up for and pretty cheesy to be honest.
In station trading. Pricing for this seems to follow no rules of supply and demand at all.
Did they not get around to that bit yet?
Running easy enough missions to complete with your starter equipment. Could be tricky given how often they bug out.
Shooting endlessly respawning cans in the empty. Not what I signed up for and pretty cheesy to be honest.
In station trading. Pricing for this seems to follow no rules of supply and demand at all.
Did they not get around to that bit yet?
Alex Connolly
Member
For those needing more room to ogle, there's a stripped-back cockpit mod out in the wild.
I think you'll agree it frees up what was once a rather claustrophobic/constricted viewport:
I think you'll agree it frees up what was once a rather claustrophobic/constricted viewport:
MakeshiftChef
Member
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I don't give a shit that this was probably once a console game. I'm more disappointed that the game is, based on impressions, not very good by its own merits :/.
chickdigger802
Banned
bueno indeed. hope it doesn't hurt the performance even more somehow lol.
You know, this game should totally support dual monitors with how the cockpit view is setup.
As i said earlier game is good just need ton of polish
Alex Connolly
Member
It's just a bit of a muddle-headed wombat at the moment, bugs notwithstanding. Great ideas mixed with bizarre ones. Browsing the modding sub-forum on the Rebirth site...man, X modders are fast and surgical. They're already working on killing the highways (a part that I don't actually mind, it's a bit of pulpy fun) and figuring how to redo traffic...exciting times.
If these things genuinely are fixable, then maybe there is hope for the game yet.
I think the previous games supported multiple monitors since X2 (in fact it was one of the first multi-screen capable PC games, I recall a PC games mag testing how well multiple monitors work and finding that the only games that worked were X and Flight Simulator), no idea if they stripped that out.
Confidence Man
Member
Playing with the cockpit mod is sooooo much better.
Also found one to get rid of the annoying message about steering mode that was always present using the mouse to steer.
Also found one to get rid of the annoying message about steering mode that was always present using the mouse to steer.
chickdigger802
Banned
a mod that removes all delay between screens of the radial menu would make the game 10x more playable.
I've followed the advice to play Free Play instead of campaign so I can actually do the open world stuff without the navigator trying to get me to some stupid story objective every time. How much does a freighter cost though? And do you buy one at a specific station or an NPC? I've asked tons of ships and NPCs for the way to the ship vendor but when they did answer they only told me that they don't know of any.
I recall doing that in Freespace back in the day. Nice blind spot between the engines of a GVD whatever-that-was-called.
I recall doing that in Freespace back in the day. Nice blind spot between the engines of a GVD whatever-that-was-called.
Devs said that language they use is very similar to X3. This is why we already see some mods.
Egosoft mods community is fantastic. I can't wait for X-tended version or Rebirth.
Imo highways aren't really bad. Problem is this weird out of place minigame and if you are not using it it takes ton of time to get somewhere. I would love for example just one speed (for example 50% of max minigame speed). Jump gates in X3 for AI were instant and here it takes sometimes a lot of time to get somewhere. In X3 with Jump drive you could just jump to other part of galaxy almost instant as long as there is becon or gate in that system.
edit:
Also devs made mods more friendly by integrating into game actually extensions tab.
michaeltraps
Member
For all of the game's issues, I'm still really enjoying the experience. I haven't encountered anything too game-breaking, just one crash and some lower-than-expected framerates.
It's important to note, this is my first X game so I don't really have much to compare it to.
It's important to note, this is my first X game so I don't really have much to compare it to.
The same freighter you get for free in the campaign costs about 4million credits. You buy it from a ship yard. Just keep exploring and you'll find them
Darias
Member
They tell I am in the tutorial stage still, looking for the assassin ROV...
I seem to remember they told me earlier to fly close to stations to gain information about them - where does this information go? Also, after I do so, the police bang into me and yell at me on the radio for doing so... Why?
I've been opening lockers and boxes to pick up misc. items - where/how do I see my inventory?
Is there a way to find out where I should dock to pick up this assassin ROV drone?
I seem to remember they told me earlier to fly close to stations to gain information about them - where does this information go? Also, after I do so, the police bang into me and yell at me on the radio for doing so... Why?
I've been opening lockers and boxes to pick up misc. items - where/how do I see my inventory?
Is there a way to find out where I should dock to pick up this assassin ROV drone?
We should thank modders already:
NESA - Never Enter Stations Again
It is still experimental but for me it is much better than getting on station.
Also i recommend :
Better Cockpit
NESA - Never Enter Stations Again
It is still experimental but for me it is much better than getting on station.
Also i recommend :
Better Cockpit
chickdigger802
Banned
Think most drone dealers sell them in there 'special' category or w/e its called.
my problem is i'm broke, and the game doesn't do shit to explain how to make money. i gather i needa do quests/missions but i'm having a hard time finding any kind of mission disperser and the only mission i found was, deliver 240 narcotics to X... except i'm broke, and i don't even know where to get narcotics.
OOOOHHHH SHIEEEEEEET
3 days people.... only 3 days and look at here:
Manual Command Extension
It is very basic as for now but if they could do it in 3 days then in few weeks we will have option to manage fleet as we want X3 style
3 days people.... only 3 days and look at here:
Manual Command Extension
It is very basic as for now but if they could do it in 3 days then in few weeks we will have option to manage fleet as we want X3 style
I'm kinda baffled by Bernds Steam community post.
Just one example.
The sorely needed UI fix seems to be pretty damn far off according to his list.
Also, the part about not putting much emphasis on ensuring the game runs well on hi-perf parts is just mindboggling. I would understand some problems with SLI/Crossfire, but performance appears to be constant and pretty bad no matter what kind of setup you have.
( As an aside: is the plot really that shitty? No spoilers please, I only heard it's basically a chain of "Booby McCleavage says stuff and the main character nods and follows her lead" )
Just one example.
That's a ... disquieting way of putting it. Stealth-accusing your customer base to fail at playing the game you made is kinda sad. Can't think of a German wording that would make this a translation error, either.
The sorely needed UI fix seems to be pretty damn far off according to his list.
Also, the part about not putting much emphasis on ensuring the game runs well on hi-perf parts is just mindboggling. I would understand some problems with SLI/Crossfire, but performance appears to be constant and pretty bad no matter what kind of setup you have.
( As an aside: is the plot really that shitty? No spoilers please, I only heard it's basically a chain of "Booby McCleavage says stuff and the main character nods and follows her lead" )
You need to look at station. Generaly there are 4 types of icons:
i - which gives you bonus
resource - with icon depending what is resource and if it is buy or sell
docking point - where you can dock (there are like 4 different ones and most of the time they are in places where you can see them from afar.
mission spot - briefcase, skull etc where people give you mission. they can be hidden same as "i" places
chickdigger802
Banned
so archaic. rpgs set in medieval times have quest boards. Would love to have one of those at each station.
Who plays the X games for the plot?
They've admitted to experiment with current gen consoles like two years ago. Its not new.
Having some references in the engine does not mean anything.
It auto choose amount for you. I know it is fucked up and non readable for first time or second. The slider part is where you can add or remove stuff you don't want to but it will set default order from get go. For example for 100 energy cells it will choose auto 100 cels so you need to only press A to accept.
So they fixed queues ? Then trading now will be playable. Just few more patches and game will be in good state. From that point some serious rework of UI and Fleet command
Darias
Member
What does it mean though? did I in effect order my freighter pilot to go buy the energy cells? It appears so as the freighter name was in the buy window...
I see - The Rahanas now has picked up 1200 energy cells. oops. How do I get these on my ship so I can continue the tutorial, or should they stay on the freighter?
I see - The Rahanas now has picked up 1200 energy cells. oops. How do I get these on my ship so I can continue the tutorial, or should they stay on the freighter?
yes.
edit:
looks like 1.13 patch fixed for good traders . I tested it and it doesn't seem to queue forever like it used to.