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[StereoVsn]

For me it's generally not worth it unless I want to give a game a rental before buying.

• I don't have a ton of time to play games in general for myself (play some stuff kids like with them). So it's not like I can finish 3 games in a month (or even two).
• I like to also to play older games (from GoG to Emulation and so on) and sometimes replay games.
• I play a bunch of strategy games as well which take a chunk of my gaming time (Paradox is the devil! ).
• A ton of games on GamePass don't interest me (Avowed as an example).
• I don't mind waiting for prices to drop and games get patched.
• Games with mods quite often have issues on Windows Store so stuff like Oblivion I would want on Steam or GoG anyways.
• Windows Store backend is still kind of shit and buggy.

So I will grab a month or three (on discount) when there are some games I want to try out (Indiana Jones was a great example), but otherwise I would prefer to wait a bit and get the games on Steam or GoG.

This is a personal thing though and GamePass has had a lot of good months lately.

Edit: Forgot to add that some of my most favorite games are either involved long ass RPGs (KCD2, BG3, Pathfinder, and so on) which take a ton of time for me to finish.

And the other genres I really like are strategy games or racing / flight / space sim games which are somewhat "evergreen". These can take basically any and all of my gaming time if I let them, lol.

 

[DenchDeckard]

25-30 million? that's including core aka people who only want to play online...

I thought it was 20 odd million before they pulled that trick but you might be right. Doesn't take away anything from how good the service is.

 

[StereoVsn]

I thought it was 20 odd million before they pulled that trick but you might be right. Doesn't take away anything from how good the service is.

I thought it was like 20-30 mil of above core subs as well. Basically it's impossible to know as MS won't release the numbers.

 

[Kacho]

 

[GHG]

They should, if they feel it's good.

I constantly praise stuff I think is good. Thats how I figure out good ones by reading forum.

So basically you want the forum to be full of people advertising and attempting viral marketing on behalf of mega-corporations in the same way that you do?

I would ask why, but I think we all already know the answer.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Microsoft has way more to offer to gaming atm than Sony. Much more 1st party titles. And yet people play Sony consoles where there aren't even any new 1st party games.

Why?

Same reason as why people go to McDonald's instead of trying something new. These people only play Fifa, CoD and Minecraft on the same console as their friends do. Afraid to try something new (in life).

I own all consoles and Microsoft gets 80% of my playtime for one reason only: there are new (high quality) games to play.

Leave a laughing emo if you want. Facts are facts. Sony hasn't got any new games.

So Xbox is that rare spicy gem that's so good but the masses are just too afraid to try?

The problem with Xbox is that's too good.

 

[Shaki12345]

So Xbox is that rare spicy gem that's so good but the masses are just too afraid to try?

Yes. Or maybe not afraid, but just not aware.

 

[GHG]

Its noticed on gaf because there's a thread for it everyday. And if there isn't a thread, there's the constant mentioning of it in threads like the clair expedition review thread.
Why can't you fanatics just discussed said game, rather than telling it's on your Biblepass?

I called it advertising tourettes in the oblivion thread.

They aren't even subtle with it.

Yes. Or maybe not afraid, but just not aware.

People are aware. Aware of the fact that they don't need Xbox or a gamepass subscription to play any of the games Microsoft release.

 

[Trilobit]

I haven't really noticed any of the increase in games. But then again it was several years since last time I used it.

 

[Shaki12345]

I called it advertising tourettes in the oblivion thread.

They aren't even subtle with it.




People are aware. Aware of the fact that they don't need Xbox or a gamepass subscription to play any of the games Microsoft release.

That's fine. Microsoft is the best publisher and most successful publisher anyway ATM.

The proposition to either play Xbox or play Microsoft games without Xbox is always good

 

[DenchDeckard]

That's fine. Microsoft is the best publisher and most successful publisher anyway ATM.

The proposition to either play Xbox or play Microsoft games without Xbox is always good

100% they win publisher of the year this year. Unless there's some serious surprises we don't know about.

 

[rodrigolfp]

- own a PC, PS5 or a gaming PC with Steam instead of an Xbox

Those also can have game pass because PC also has game pass.

 

[GHG]

That's fine. Microsoft is the best publisher and most successful publisher anyway ATM.

The proposition to either play Xbox or play Microsoft games without Xbox is always good

Make sure you remind yourself of all that then next time you want to start complaining about what other consumers are deciding to do.

 

[Shaki12345]

Make sure you remind yourself of all that then next time you want to start complaining about what other consumers are deciding to do.

Just stating facts. Microsoft has games. Sony doesn't.

End of story. None of your reaction GIF's will change that.

 

[Topher]

This is also so off base. Gamepass has been crazy for years.

Well that's fine then. If those people don't want to pay it doesn't make the service bad. I bet there's loads that think netflix is shit. To deny how good its been for high quality titles is absurd.

I didn't say the service was bad. It is really good right now. Has it been that way for years? Nah....not like it is now. Has the level of praise been the same from some going back years? Yep. Has it been warranted until now? No....not really. That's the problem when folks do nothing but praise. It becomes white noise.

It would be, if it had day one first party games as a key value proposition, and went through a similar phase with lots of good additions.

No, because it doesn't get games like lies of p, Claire obscure, stalker 2, cod, indiana jones the list goes on and on you get the jihst.

They should, if they feel it's good.

Right. PS subscriptions are just ok for what it is. But very few are saying otherwise. So if we are going to wonder if the service receives as much criticism then first you gotta ask was ever hyped up to be something massively great in the first place and the answer as far as PS subscriptions is no, for the most part.

 

[DenchDeckard]

If we are to answer the title of the thread. I think millions of gamers know that Gamepass has been great this year and is delivering.

 

[Kacho]

If we are to answer the title of the thread. I think millions of gamers know that Gamepass has been great this year and is delivering.

Will we see an uptick in subscribers though?

 

[Topher]

Just stating facts. Microsoft has games. Sony doesn't.

End of story. None of your reaction GIF's will change that.

Sony is getting those Microsoft games so what does it matter?

 

[GHG]

Just stating facts. Microsoft has games. Sony doesn't.

End of story. None of your reaction GIF's will change that.

Serious question, what does Sony's output have to do with any of this considering the fact that those who have decided to play on Sony's platform also have access to these all these games?

You're still fighting a war in your head that no longer exists.

 

[Shaki12345]

Sony is getting those Microsoft games so what does it matter?

It doesn't. And I said that a few minutes ago. Microsoft has fantastic games the whole year.

It doesn't matter if you play them on Xbox or not. Microsoft is winning. Sony has a LOT of work to do. They have nothing ATM. It's sad.

I own a PS5 and I have nothing to look forward too the next months. And even the past year.

 

[FrankWza]

Sonygaf and these Playstation circle jerk threads....

 

[Shaki12345]

Serious question, what does Sony's output have to do with any of this considering the fact that those who have decided to play on Sony's platform also have access to these all these games?

You're still fighting a war in your head that no longer exists.

Nah. I own all consoles.

Just stating that no matter where you play, you can play Microsoft games and they are fantastic.

I don't partake in console wars. I game where the games are. So no PlayStation for me atm.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Will we see an uptick in subscribers though?

We won't because MS do not share numbers. So, ill just sit back and enjoy the release slate.

Edit, I think we can make this easy by stating the fact that I think everyone on here can agree that Gamepass is delivering this year. Is the service for everyone? not at all. Does it work for everyone? no. Is it delivering? a resounding Yes. Surely, everyone can agree on that?

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

I called it advertising tourettes in the oblivion thread.

They aren't even subtle with it.




People are aware. Aware of the fact that they don't need Xbox or a gamepass subscription to play any of the games Microsoft release.

I've no interest in oblivion so haven't saw. But I can imagine its filled with "gonna get this on gamepass" "omg gamepass keeps delivering".

Its bizarre these people can't enjoy games or even discuss games without mentioning every 5 minutes it's on their favourite subscription.

 

[GHG]

Nah. I own all consoles.

Just stating that no matter where you play, you can play Microsoft games and they are fantastic.

I don't partake in console wars. I game where the games are. So no PlayStation for me atm.

"I don't partake in conse wars" - - > proceeds to console war and constantly bring up Sony in completely unrelated thread.

Look, I'll say this, if your ownership of a Sony console is weighing on you so much that it's leading you to behave like this then there's a simple solution - sell it to someone who wants it.

 

[Shaki12345]

"I don't partake in conse wars" - - > proceeds to console war and constantly bring up Sony in completely unrelated thread.

Look, I'll say this, if your ownership of a Sony console is weighing on you so much that it's leading you to behave like this then there's a simple solution - sell it to someone who wants it.

No. I wait for Sony to release games. In the meantime I'll play the fantastic new Microsoft games via GamePass and my upcoming Switch 2.

 

[GHG]

No. I wait for Sony to release games. In the meantime I'll play the fantastic new Microsoft games via GamePass and my upcoming Switch 2.

So basically you need to continue to own it in order to hide behind "I own all consoles" while talking your shit.

A story as old as time itself.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

No. I wait for Sony to release games. In the meantime I'll play the fantastic new Microsoft games via GamePass and my upcoming Switch 2.

Can you make a post without mentioning gamepass? Go on, give it a try.

 

[Shaki12345]

So basically you need to continue to own it in order to hide behind "I own all consoles" while talking your shit.

A story as old as time itself.

Basically I decide myself what I own and why. That's not of your business. I recently played a PS game because it was "free". There aren't any new games that I couldn't get "free" via GP.

I play wherever the good news games are. And at the moment that's Xbox.

 

[Elios83]

Microsoft has way more to offer to gaming atm than Sony. Much more 1st party titles. And yet people play Sony consoles where there aren't even any new 1st party games.

Why?

Same reason as why people go to McDonald's instead of trying something new. These people only play Fifa, CoD and Minecraft on the same console as their friends do. Afraid to try something new (in life).

I own all consoles and Microsoft gets 80% of my playtime for one reason only: there are new (high quality) games to play.

Leave a laughing emo if you want. Facts are facts. Sony hasn't got any new games.

Microsoft is now a third party publisher, everything they release you can play it on PlayStation.
And with PlayStation you also get Sony games, which of course they do have including last year's GOTY and soon Death Strading 2 and Ghost of Yotei.
Plus all third party and second party stuff like Stellar Blade, FF7 Rebirth, Silent Hill 2, Rise of the Ronin which is not available on other consoles.
Why people should choose to get a piece of the cake on Xbox when you can have the full cake with PlayStation?
Your take is out of touch with reality.

About Gamepass the business model doesn't work with games, even Phil Spencer basically acknowledged it recently.
There is no point in getting access to 10 games when it's sufficient one big open world game to occupy my time for 2 months.
And if you're into multiplayer and online stuff is even worse.
For Gamepass to work people should be able to consume games in a few hours but that's not the case with games.

 

[SmurfMustard]

The only thing these kind of threads always show is how butthurt some people are that they dont have access to GamePass on their favorite plastic box.

 

[Shaki12345]

Can you make a post without mentioning gamepass? Go on, give it a try.

This is a GamePass thread. I'd rather stay on topic mate.

 

[Skifi28]

It doesn't. And I said that a few minutes ago. Microsoft has fantastic games the whole year.

It doesn't matter if you play them on Xbox or not. Microsoft is winning. Sony has a LOT of work to do. They have nothing ATM. It's sad.

I own a PS5 and I have nothing to look forward too the next months. And even the past year.

Sony has published many games since last year on top of having big third party console exclusives and I would argue many of them have been far more successful than the likes of South of Midnight, Indiana or the wet fart Forza Motorsport turned out to be. Somehow though, when people mention Sony they completely forget them all including big future releases like Death Standing or Ghost which apparently are not something to look forward to. I really don't understand this selective amnesia to propagate a narrative that never made sense if you just looked at the games released.

 

[Sanepar]

South of Midnight isn't a good example of value. It is the type of class B game that undervalue gamepass imo.

 

[Shaki12345]

Microsoft is now a third party publisher, everything they release you can play it on PlayStation.
And with PlayStation you also get Sony games, which of course they do have including last year's GOTY and soon Death Strading 2 and Ghost of Yotei.
Plus all third party and second party stuff like Stellar Blade, FF7 Rebirth, Silent Hill 2, Rise of the Ronin which is not available on other consoles.
Why people should choose to get a piece of the cake on Xbox when you can have the full cake with PlayStation?
Your take is out of touch with reality.

About Gamepass the business model doesn't work with games, even Phil Spencer basically acknowledged it recently.
There is no point in getting access to 10 games when it's sufficient one big open world game to occupy my time for 2 months.
And if you're into multiplayer and online stuff is even worse.
For Gamepass to work people should be able to consume games in a few hours but that's not the case with games.

I appreciate you giving your opinion. However, I disagree with it.

Doesn't matter in the end. We're all the same family.

 

[Ozriel]

that's another thing, game development is not tv production.
the major studios ms bought, bethesda, machinegames, oblivion, id, blizzard etc all will go into 5-6 years hiatus after 2025. they all emptied their guns around same months, on par with chronical project mismanagement at xbox.
good luck keeping the momentum for people to pay monthly years on end.

Some of these studios have multiple simultaneous projects ongoing. Playground has two games - FH6 and Fable - in the pipeline. There's Perfect Dark. Rare's got another game in the works. Clockwork Revolution and the next State of Decay are coming up. There's the annual COD games, of course. Unannounced titles from MS publishing. And of course, the usual GP deals.

They're fine for 2026 - 2027, at least.

this thing will continue to be a collosal loss leader as long as it exists, thats why they are just a third party publisher now, which in turn killed their console business, which in vicious cycle keeps gamepass unsustainable, because most of their subbers were coming from console.

you couldn't have planted a better ticking time bomb at xbox hq, even if you tried.
the idiot who coined the term "netflix of gaming" should have been fired at spot. but he is still ceo of microsoft gaming. go figure

As a consumer, none of this is your problem, is it?

 

[GHG]

Basically I decide myself what I own and why. That's not of your business. I recently played a PS game because it was "free". There aren't any new games that I couldn't get "free" via GP.

I play wherever the good news games are. And at the moment that's Xbox.

Hate to break it to you, but there's nothing "free" about any of these subscription services.

But I see the advertising tourettes is kicking in again. I'll leave you to it.

 

[Shaki12345]

Hate to break it to you, but there's nothing "free" about any of these subscription services.

But I see the advertising tourettes is kicking in again. I'll leave you to it.

That's why I used " ".

Now please, have a great day.

 

[adamsapple]

 

[DenchDeckard]

So many people upset that users are talking about Gamepass in a gamepass thread. :/

 

[Kacho]

We won't because MS do not share numbers. So, ill just sit back and enjoy the release slate.

Edit, I think we can make this easy by stating the fact that I think everyone on here can agree that Gamepass is delivering this year. Is the service for everyone? not at all. Does it work for everyone? no. Is it delivering? a resounding Yes. Surely, everyone can agree on that?

The value is obviously there as of late. I'm curious if Microsoft says anything about GP growth in their quarterly earnings report.

 

[Topher]

It doesn't. And I said that a few minutes ago. Microsoft has fantastic games the whole year.

It doesn't matter if you play them on Xbox or not. Microsoft is winning. Sony has a LOT of work to do. They have nothing ATM. It's sad.

I own a PS5 and I have nothing to look forward too the next months. And even the past year.

Why are we even talking about Sony here? The only space where Microsoft and Sony compete directly is in consoles and no, Microsoft is not "winning" there. You are fighting a console war that doesn't exist.

 

[Shaki12345]

Why are we even talking about Sony here? The only space where Microsoft and Sony compete directly is in consoles and no, Microsoft is not "winning" there. You are fighting a console war that doesn't exist.

I don't like console wars. I like 1st party games. And for new games there is nowhere else to go atm than Gamepass or PC.

 

[Bond007]

No.
Anything that is good will show up on other consoles. The successful console being PS5 and where most people these days also have friends.
Gamepass is a great option if you already had the means to own multiple consoles or a PC. Outside of that ecosystem i dont feel it really moves the needle beyond what they already have - as constructed.

Now if they added Gamepass to Playstation this may be different. I think Xbox would fully need to firmly leave the console business for Sony to approve this.

 

[Clear]

It looks good until you realize that unless you're the sort of person who plays multiple games at the same time, the amount of stuff on there doesn't actually mean much. This is very key point in an era of F2P and GaaS, because a lot of gamers have their "chronic" titles like Fortnite or CoD, or Genshin, or whatever that they have a social investment in, which eats gaming time and mindshare just as impactfully as the latest "new" thing they are into. It also gets exponentially worse as an offer if the buyer is also invested in other platforms or has a preexisting backlog of things to play.

Value's kinda irrelevant when most gamers won't get close to maximizing that value. And instead all they are left with is an increasingly large monthly payment that when they need to maintain or lose access to everything. Its good for families and casuals, but then so is mobile gaming...

Sorry, but I remain convinced that its just a fundamentally terrible idea because the way people consume interactive content is simply different to passive stuff like movies. All its achieving is to lower the perceived monetary value of games (which sucks because games aren't getting cheaper to produce) whilst lowering the impact of new releases to just being the next piece of content shat out on a conveyer belt.

 

[Topher]

I don't like console wars.

Then stop warring

I like 1st party games. And for new games there is nowhere else to go atm than Gamepass or PC.

Not true. Most new games are on Xbox, PS and PC.

 

[yamaci17]

no. it's a recurring theme where you get great games for a while then gets stale for a long time. it happened a lot of times. the way games are made, you just can't keep the hype all the time
I just sub to game pass when there are 3-4 games that I want to play there, play them within 1-2 months, and repeat until there are 3-4 games again. because I have games elsewhere and sometimes games there don't interest me and sometimes I just don't feel like playing games at all

 

[Shaki12345]

Then stop warring



Not true. Most new games are on Xbox, PS and PC.

This thread is about Gamepass. Gamepass isn't on PS. Gamepass is worth it. Especially compared to 1st party output from competition.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

They'll notice and get a month here and there. It's still asking a lot to pay for a year of GP on top of games that don't go into GamePass. Like GTA, Mafia, etc.

 

[Topher]

This thread is about Gamepass. Gamepass isn't on PS.

Then stop bringing up PS