Xbox Game Pass is delivering more than ever, but will gamers notice?
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StueyDuck
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It's fine, we've had a couple of decent enough months, but it also depends on how much you are willing to put up with some bang average games, like Avowed, which no one cares about anymore.
Like all these services it'll hit a lul again in the next few months and then its all doom and gloom again, the service is fine, its not particularly amazing but it's definitely value for money, it's literally netflix but games and I feel the same way about netflix, if you love content for contents sake then netflix is incredible, but it's mostly meh, but still great value.
Like all these services it'll hit a lul again in the next few months and then its all doom and gloom again, the service is fine, its not particularly amazing but it's definitely value for money, it's literally netflix but games and I feel the same way about netflix, if you love content for contents sake then netflix is incredible, but it's mostly meh, but still great value.
BigLee74
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You need to relax on your Gamepass negativity before you keel over
You don't like it, many don't like it, I like it, many like it.
For every you, there is a me.
In the past 6 months alone, I have completed COD (still play MP most nights), Indiana Jones, Avowed, SoM, and am in the middle of Stalker 2 and Oblivion. I have Sniper Elite 5 and the new Doom lined up.
There is no denying that if it aligns with your taste in games, you are quids in.
I still buy games by the way (I own about 400 digitally) but I no longer need to buy everything - just those that don't appear on Gamepass, or those that I know I will want to keep.
Lmao like clockwork. Every single GamePass thread.
Gamers want to play games. Either via purchase on on a subscription service, not much difference if you aren't routinely going back to play games you bought years ago.
I didn't realize you and your fellows were this invested in the health of the Xbox business
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DenchDeckard
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25-30 million people who want to rent SOME games is not insignificant. Not everyone wants to buy every game, and we have heard shit loads of stories from developers how gamepass helped their game blow up.
Gamepass is not a negative for end users. If they want it.
Killjoy-NL
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Invested? Not really.
But Xbox is now actively bringing their games to me, so it's only logical they are on my radar.
Fess
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Maybe if you're a business man invested in their stock, but what if you're just a regular gamer? Why do I have to be concerned about any of that?
For real I couldn't care less about how the money flow, I just use whatever means to get my entertainment cheaper. And subscriptions with cheap starter deals fits nicely into that strategy. Gamepass, PS+, HBO, Apple TV+, GeForce Now, etc. Same thing, have/had them all and I've never paid full price. If someone want to burn money to lure more people into their thing then please do it, I'll gladly be there taking advantage of that without shame.
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Gamers are starting to notice that Xbox Game Pass is the real deal
Xbox Game Pass is having an absolutely insane quarter, and it'll be interesting to see if Microsoft shares stats when the next quarterly earning report drops.www.windowscentral.com
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Game Pass is great value for a select group of gamers who:
- only play on Xbox
- only play games on Game Pass
- don't care about games that are not on Game Pass
- do nothing else but play games
- play and finish multiple games a month
- enjoy titles in every single genre: shooters, WRPGs, sports games, quirky indy games, puzzle games, Metroidvanias, souslike games and more)
But for mainstream gamers who generally buy and play the most popular games (FIFA, GTA, Fortnite) and big AAA games (Assassin's Creed, Cyberpunk 2077, Kingdom Come, etc) the case for Game Pass is much weaker. These people:
- own a PC, PS5 or a gaming PC with Steam instead of an Xbox
- want to play their favorite games/genres first and foremost instead of playing only what's available on Game Pass
- see the games available on Game Pass as a side dish instead of the main course
- don't play games every day for a couple of hours
- play and finish just a handful of games a year
- enjoy titles in just a handful of genres
Why subscribe to Game Pass if the vast majority of your gaming time is spent on finishing a couple of big games a year that are NOT on Game Pass? It makes much more sense to simply buy the few titles on Game Pass that caught your attention when they're discounted than to subscribe for a year and feel like you're wasting money every time you play a game that's not on that service?
People say Game Pass is the Netflix of gaming, but when you get Netflix just about every single person in your family will watch movies and tv series on that service, whereas with Game Pass it will be just you. That makes it harder to justify a subscription that's not being used to the fullest
- only play on Xbox
- only play games on Game Pass
- don't care about games that are not on Game Pass
- do nothing else but play games
- play and finish multiple games a month
- enjoy titles in every single genre: shooters, WRPGs, sports games, quirky indy games, puzzle games, Metroidvanias, souslike games and more)
But for mainstream gamers who generally buy and play the most popular games (FIFA, GTA, Fortnite) and big AAA games (Assassin's Creed, Cyberpunk 2077, Kingdom Come, etc) the case for Game Pass is much weaker. These people:
- own a PC, PS5 or a gaming PC with Steam instead of an Xbox
- want to play their favorite games/genres first and foremost instead of playing only what's available on Game Pass
- see the games available on Game Pass as a side dish instead of the main course
- don't play games every day for a couple of hours
- play and finish just a handful of games a year
- enjoy titles in just a handful of genres
Why subscribe to Game Pass if the vast majority of your gaming time is spent on finishing a couple of big games a year that are NOT on Game Pass? It makes much more sense to simply buy the few titles on Game Pass that caught your attention when they're discounted than to subscribe for a year and feel like you're wasting money every time you play a game that's not on that service?
People say Game Pass is the Netflix of gaming, but when you get Netflix just about every single person in your family will watch movies and tv series on that service, whereas with Game Pass it will be just you. That makes it harder to justify a subscription that's not being used to the fullest
Hyet
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THIS
Don't get me wrong, gamepass is great, used it for a long while and it keeps gettig better. But what does it do for me? I already have a huge backlog and honestly I prefer MY game selection to whatever Microsoft can round up. Don't get me wrong, they are doing a great job but with games leaving the service faster than me aming time to get to them I much rather buy them at a discount and play them when I want to than paying a subscrition I don't get all I want out of and that I don't really need because I am already actually overserved when it comes to games.
Gamepass as a teenager or young adult has to be amazing but even that demographic probably don't value it as much because there are a metric ton of amazingly high quality F2P games that require no sub or payment at all.
Cyberpunkd
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But, but... think of the engagement!
Cyberpunkd
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This post nails it. It's for people that treat gaming like McDonald's - fast meal, they don't finish games, they frequently jump between games and genres. Also the mention about "do nothing else but play games" is spot on, it's really for the hardcore.
ShaiKhulud1989
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Gamepass Ultimate is not even that cheap and it's not like it's too expensive to buy Oblivion Remake or Claire Obscure to enjoy at your own pace.
Unknown Soldier
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Unless you specifically confine what you play to exactly what is on the Gamepass catalog, it's of limited value to you. Any subscription is only of value if it not only has the content you want but you can meaningfully consume it within the sub period
This is true of any subscription service with a limited catalog really, it's why people go mad trying to actually pay for Netflix, Apple TV+, Paramount+, MAX, etc. etc. when all they want is like 1 movie or 1 show from each service
Subscriptions are only good for the company providing it, consumers always get fucked in the end. The goal of forcing people to sub to things is to generate income from each consumer in perpetuity for their lifetimes
This is true of any subscription service with a limited catalog really, it's why people go mad trying to actually pay for Netflix, Apple TV+, Paramount+, MAX, etc. etc. when all they want is like 1 movie or 1 show from each service
Subscriptions are only good for the company providing it, consumers always get fucked in the end. The goal of forcing people to sub to things is to generate income from each consumer in perpetuity for their lifetimes
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DenchDeckard
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You need to relax on your Gamepass negativity before you keel over
You don't like it, many don't like it, I like it, many like it.
For every you, there is a me.
In the past 6 months alone, I have completed COD (still play MP most nights), Indiana Jones, Avowed, SoM, and am in the middle of Stalker 2 and Oblivion. I have Sniper Elite 5 and the new Doom lined up.
There is no denying that if it aligns with your taste in games, you are quids in.
I still buy games by the way (I own about 400 digitally) but I no longer need to buy everything - just those that don't appear on Gamepass, or those that I know I will want to keep.
Great points. I don't understand this agenda to paint gamepass users as people who ONLY rent games. I buy shitloads of games a year.
This is so far off base. I own every platform, play and buy plenty of games and gamepass is a nice surprise i have on the side for games that come to the service I want to try. Games I love I end up buying at some point. I bet there are plenty of users like me, and plenty which cant stand it. Its just service and its a good service that gets heat on here because its microsofts thing and its disruptive.
Why in the world would GamePass be only of interest to only Xbox gamers?
I own every gaming platform under the sun, and subscribing to GP saves me a lot of money I'd have otherwise spent buying these games, and also brings other gems like we've seen with Expedition 33.
I'm old enough to remember you people used to include Call of Duty in this list
Now you have to pad it with Assassins Creed and 2019's Cyberpunk 2077. Or even a once in 5 years KCD game.
Jormatar
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One month of greatness doesn't erase the last two years it didn't offer jackshit other than few first party titles here and there.
There really isn't a reason to be a subacriber other than for one or two months a year. Otherwise you will be just losing money from months when nothing interesting is released.
There really isn't a reason to be a subacriber other than for one or two months a year. Otherwise you will be just losing money from months when nothing interesting is released.
Topher
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Nah.....lots of folks simply don't want to pay for a subscription. That has nothing to do with "allegiance". If you are going to make that argument then the people who do subscribe do so out of "allegiance" to Microsoft. You can't have it both ways.
Game Pass is having a strong period, its best in several years. But this should really be normal for it to be successful.
As competition grew amongst TV streaming services, they realised they needed regular new content to keep subscribers. That's what Game Pass seemed to forget for a while, it'd be one big release followed by months of no new games of note. Old games rotating in and out help refresh the catalogue, but they don't keep subscribers. The appeal is a regular ongoing stream of day one releases, but 5 games from Microsoft a year doesn't cut it. The early 2025 release cadance is what it should be.
Let's see if they can keep it up beyond Doom.
As competition grew amongst TV streaming services, they realised they needed regular new content to keep subscribers. That's what Game Pass seemed to forget for a while, it'd be one big release followed by months of no new games of note. Old games rotating in and out help refresh the catalogue, but they don't keep subscribers. The appeal is a regular ongoing stream of day one releases, but 5 games from Microsoft a year doesn't cut it. The early 2025 release cadance is what it should be.
Let's see if they can keep it up beyond Doom.
vaibhavpisal
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Phil Spencer said it himself - Its not for everyone.
By that, he simply means multiplatform players.
It does need a good deal of commitment. But in return offers widest variety of game experiences possible.
Personally am all in on gamepass. I like to play on my own terms, what I am enjoying, and not be bogged down by backlog.
By that, he simply means multiplatform players.
It does need a good deal of commitment. But in return offers widest variety of game experiences possible.
Personally am all in on gamepass. I like to play on my own terms, what I am enjoying, and not be bogged down by backlog.
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Topher
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Does PS+ Extra/Premium get the same amount of critizism, I wonder?
Is PS+ Extra/Premium lavished with praise on a regular basis from PS fans?
Sanepar
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I think balatro is not a good example to spend your hours on gamepass. Since is a cheap game and will demand hours. The others are great examples since they are sp games and to extract value from gamepass the best strategy is sp games.
Thebonehead
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Is PS+ Extra/Premium lavished with praise on a regular basis from PS fans?
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PS Plus Extra and Premium subscription estimates say otherwise. Many of those who are here scoffing in this thread are Plus Extra subscribers.
Additionally, a significant amount of Xbox owners are GamePass subscribers. Enough - at least - to significantly impact sales of games.
Is PS+ Extra/Premium lavished with praise on a regular basis from PS fans?
It would be, if it had day one first party games as a key value proposition, and went through a similar phase with lots of good additions.
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Shubh_C63
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Because Xbox has shown themselves to have no consistency.
Sony and Nintendo fans had been burned in the past too but where they deliver they always have remained consistent in that.
Xbox brand is truly damaged. Maybe keep pumping these games and prices for next 4 years and people will attract/respect you again.
Sony and Nintendo fans had been burned in the past too but where they deliver they always have remained consistent in that.
Xbox brand is truly damaged. Maybe keep pumping these games and prices for next 4 years and people will attract/respect you again.
DenchDeckard
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This is also so off base. Gamepass has been crazy for years.
Well that's fine then. If those people don't want to pay it doesn't make the service bad. I bet there's loads that think netflix is shit. To deny how good its been for high quality titles is absurd.
No, because it doesn't get games like lies of p, Claire obscure, stalker 2, cod, indiana jones the list goes on and on you get the jihst.Is PS+ Extra/Premium lavished with praise on a regular basis from PS fans?
vaibhavpisal
Member
They should, if they feel it's good.Is PS+ Extra/Premium lavished with praise on a regular basis from PS fans?
I constantly praise stuff I think is good. Thats how I figure out good ones by reading forum.
GHG
Member
Is PS+ Extra/Premium lavished with praise on a regular basis from PS fans?
Even the Epic games store that literally gives out free games every single week and services like prime gaming and humble choice which provide games you can keep forever even when no longer subscribed don't get pumped and evangelized this hard.
This cult-like behaviour needs to be studied.
that's another thing, game development is not tv production.
the major studios ms bought, bethesda, machinegames, oblivion, id, blizzard etc all will go into 5-6 years hiatus after 2025. they all emptied their guns around same months, on par with chronic project mismanagement at xbox.
good luck keeping the momentum for people to pay monthly, years on end.
this thing will continue to be a colossal loss leader as long as it exists, thats why they are just a third party publisher now, which in turn killed their console business, which in vicious cycle keeps gamepass unsustainable, because most of their subbers were coming from console.
you couldn't have planted a better ticking time bomb at xbox hq, even if you tried.
the idiot who coined the term "netflix of gaming" should have been fired on spot. but he is still ceo of microsoft gaming. go figure
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Trunx81
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When Spotify released, we had the same discussion regarding how they are hurting music.
And I understand both sides.
For me, PS+ Extra is great to finally catch up with some games I´ve missed the last years when I didn´t had the time to play.
And I will definitely try out GamePass on my LG TV, now that they released it: I don´t have to buy a Xbox console and no games are delivered by Amazon.
As a married guy that´s a crucial service, because I don´t have to justify my purchases to my wife
And I understand both sides.
For me, PS+ Extra is great to finally catch up with some games I´ve missed the last years when I didn´t had the time to play.
And I will definitely try out GamePass on my LG TV, now that they released it: I don´t have to buy a Xbox console and no games are delivered by Amazon.
As a married guy that´s a crucial service, because I don´t have to justify my purchases to my wife
cireza
Member
Love that "because you played Roblox" lolAnother Game Pass appreciation thread. Love it.
25-30 million? that's including core aka people who only want to play online...
Donald mac Ronald
Member
Its noticed on gaf because there's a thread for it everyday. And if there isn't a thread, there's the constant mentioning of it in threads like the clair expedition review thread.
Why can't you fanatics just discussed said game, rather than telling it's on your Biblepass?
Why can't you fanatics just discussed said game, rather than telling it's on your Biblepass?
Unknown Soldier
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People are also pissed about the state of things in terms of subscribing to entertainment due to all the streaming services that Netflix kicked off
Consumers have enough common sense to know that subscribing to everything is fundamentally bad for their ongoing finances and that cord-cutting from cable has actually made them worse off
So they are going to give the side-eye to expansion of subscripting services to new markets which you used to be able to just buy and own things, like gaming. Especially after you were forced to pay a sub to use Microsoft Word and Excel and Photoshop
There is an enormous amount of sub fatigue right now after everything has literally become a sub to extract money from you for the rest of your natural life. The average person cannot perpetually shoulder the monthly or annual cost of Netflix, and Spotify Premium, and Youtube Premium, and Apple TV+, and Amazon Prime, and Walmart+, and MAX, and Microsoft 365, and Adobe Creative Cloud, and also Gamepass. I admire the Americans who pay $200+ a month on random subs, thank you for holding up the American economy on your shoulders. I'll stick to not paying subs for things
Shaki12345
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Microsoft has way more to offer to gaming atm than Sony. Much more 1st party titles. And yet people play Sony consoles where there aren't even any new 1st party games.
Why?
Same reason as why people go to McDonald's instead of trying something new. These people only play Fifa, CoD and Minecraft on the same console as their friends do. Afraid to try something new (in life).
I own all consoles and Microsoft gets 80% of my playtime for one reason only: there are new (high quality) games to play.
Leave a laughing emo if you want. Facts are facts. Sony hasn't got any new games.
Why?
Same reason as why people go to McDonald's instead of trying something new. These people only play Fifa, CoD and Minecraft on the same console as their friends do. Afraid to try something new (in life).
I own all consoles and Microsoft gets 80% of my playtime for one reason only: there are new (high quality) games to play.
Leave a laughing emo if you want. Facts are facts. Sony hasn't got any new games.
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