Chobel
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Launch started in New Zealand, 12 AM in New Zealand is 6 AM in Washington.
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Xbox One sells one million+ (sell through to consumers) in all territories worldwide
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Launch started in New Zealand, 12 AM in New Zealand is 6 AM in Washington.
shinra-bansho
Member
The PS4 must have sold 8M by now, based on the 1M it started with.
Yep, same as most other "PAL" territories.
Hmm, maybe demand is disproportionately higher in the US; or alternatively supply is more limited. It wouldn't surprise me.
Albert Penello says many things.
Holy shit, haha.
weekend_warrior
Banned
What is Bgamer90 trying to argue? That MS might have sold more consoles in America then Sony?
Warm Machine
Member
Don't paint it like bad news though. Selling out everything that was manufactured is pretty grand. If they were able to ship more they would have sold more. Same goes for Sony. Both built a bunch of console both sold all of them out. Overall it is good news for both. As we head towards Christmas these things are going to be flying off store shelves.
That doesn't answer my question. Again, why not state the news earlier today?
The Xbox One launched in other parts of the world on Thursday at around 6:00 AM EST time.
What's determination for the cut off time in which it's OK to make this news?
shinra-bansho
Member
There's confusion about the number of
FairXchange
Member
He did assert that the NA figures of Xbox One would be comparable to the PS4 NA numbers.
I think he's just a bit mistaken about what these press release represented in terms of MS' sales. It wasn't a preview, it was the announcement.
Marauder Shields
Member
This thread has been scary to read. Dunno why so many people are so eager to marginalize any positive Xbox One news.
Everyone seems to be doing well so gg.
Everyone seems to be doing well so gg.
Yes. That's what I've stated. So why did they wait until the evening to make this news instead of earlier in the day?
Chobel
Member
He's saying that the 1 million will be bigger after including units sold in NA after announcing the number.
Warm Machine
Member
No, that there was still a ton of hours left in the day. But as per MS PR they said they sold all they shipped so there are technically none left to buy. Sony was a bit smarter focusing on NA first instead of spreading thinner. MS is in a no win PR position besides stating what they stated. They can't beat PS4 in NA and they can't claim victory anywhere else because the opposing team hasn't even showed up to the game yet.
MrCookiepants
Member
My local EB said they had 3 left and they hadn't got any walk-ins since launch day.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
I wonder what this means for their sales in the UK. If Amazon is any indicator, they seem to be way behind Sony in the UK but neck to neck in the US.
I feel like tey're going to get destroyed in those British isles this gen.
I feel like tey're going to get destroyed in those British isles this gen.
Chobel
Member
That's exactly what many are trying to say, that 1 million is the number MS come up with after doing analysis and market research.
rokkerkory
Member
Did sony twitter congrats to MS i wonder lol
THIS IS A WAR!!!!! Didn't you get the memo?
SquiddyCracker
Banned
And the vast majority of those sold after were already counted by Microsoft via preorders. They don't have enough left in the supply chain to significantly increase that number for their PR. How does any adult not understand this?
Chobel
Member
They did
Randolph Freelander
Member
You'll have to ask Microsoft why they schedule their PR in such a way. Again, most companies release sales PR late in the day, similar to how companies release their earnings reports either before or after market hours, not during. NPD releases after market, etc.
But again, I don't know what you're arguing here. Microsoft knows their sales precisely. They're not on the phone with every mom-n-pop getting updated tallies, they know they presold the majority and walk-ins will take care of the rest. Shipped = sold. If not, they have a problem.
Is it really about the comparison to PS4? It's ridiculously unimportant. It's a shipping battle. If Microsoft thought they won that battle in North America, believe me, they would have reported it. But regardless, it says nothing about demand. Repeat it: it says nothing about demand. It says nothing about which system is more desired. The numbers are absolutely supply constrained. Do you or do you not agree? And if that's the case, what's the point in arguing about it?
UberTag
Member
It's the same logic movie studios employ when they announce their weekend box office grosses on Sunday even though Sunday hasn't ended yet and there are still screenings later that evening.
I believe yosp and adam did. The people that work for the companies are nowhere near as pathetic as some of the fans.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Let's be real with ourselves for a minute though. A lot of past systems would have sold a million units if they had the supply. PS2, 360, Wii, etc all could have sold 1mil+ but there weren't enough out there.
It really means nothing for the long run health of either console or the market as a whole.
It really means nothing for the long run health of either console or the market as a whole.
Because they are shipped totals under the assumption that they will all be sold through, they have not actually verified the sales.
ReBurn
Gold Member
The console warriors are dressed in full battle regalia right now. It's how they help their side win I guess. But I agree, strong launches for new consoles is a good thing. I'm happy to see things going so well.
Hell they dont need to. Getting anywhere close is a fucking win for them.
rokkerkory
Member
Thats great... Good stuff. I hope both sell really well... Its only good for the consumer.
This all stemmed from people saying that this news isn't good for MS at all. All I stated was how isn't this news good especially if the people who say it isn't don't fully know all of the details for NA.
That then went into a back and forth about "24 hour period", etc. I can admit to being wrong in my points dealing with that but the overall reason I made posts in this thread is due to me being happy to see these two next gen consoles doing solidly at launch.
Was never trying to make any console war, "one side is better than the other", PS4 vs. Xbox One arguments.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Oh he thinks walks-ins are going to make significant difference in sales 20 hours after launch? That pretty ridiculous, probably 99% of units sold were from preorders, maybe 10k-20k walk-ins got lucky, there's going to be be hardly anybody that wants an Xbox and waits until 9pm the following night to try and get one.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
They ain't nevah left.
Nightengale
Member
It's not a bad news per-say, but it's also not what anyone expected.
Most was expecting MS to tout a larger number, in some shape or form. A tie with Sony on PR is not exactly flattering.
Again, this only matters when viewed from a comparison perspective. Both companies have a good start, only one is better than the other. Now it's a question of momentum.
freenudemacusers
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could you provide the source video of this taken with a hidef camcorder pointed at the computer screen? I still have my doubts.LOL are you fucking serious
jesus dude...
Andronicus
Banned
you know Canada is a country too right?
spatenfloot
Member
I don't know why people are arguing over specific numbers. There was never any doubt that both companies would pretty much sell out initially. The real question is what happens AFTER November.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Are you sure about those expectations? Everything I've heard was that Sony had an early manufacturing advantage. I seem to recall that Pachter weeks ago was saying he was told (or expected, not sure) shipments to be about 1.5 million for Sony and 1 million for Microsoft, and for the early Sony shipments to be shifted heavily to North America.
I don't know how anyone comes away disappointed in any way with any figure touted by Sony or Microsoft. They shipped a lot of systems, and have sold them all (or enough so that stragglers don't matter).
weekend_warrior
Banned
Come on now, polar bears can't play videogames, don't be silly.
EventHorizon
Member
I didn't paint is as good or bad news. I simply stated that Microsoft's numbers in all likelihood weren't as good as Sony's. It is a separate discussion how much it matters to the success of a console if it's numbers are less than its competition. It is not a zero sum game. The XB1 could sell less than the PS4 yet still be considered successful.
As of this instant I don't think the sales numbers adversely affect the XB1. However next week's numbers could be interesting. If Sony ends up vastly outselling the XB1 with the second phase of its launch, then the question has to be asked why couldn't MS do the same. At that point you'd have to wonder if there were yield problems or an initial lack of demand for the XB1, such that MS couldn't or wouldn't make more of them.
SwiftDeath
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Nice start. I think everyone realizes by this point that the XB1 is not going to outsell PS4 in the short term, and to even remain competitive sales wise they are going to need to produce some amazing content over the next couple of years.
The good news is that I think that Sony can beat their ass, and MS can still do as well as they did with 360. Console wars aside, this is a great start, and at the very least MS seems to have a healthy console on their hands.
And just to add my experience in Dallas TX day one. The XB1 was sold out at the nearest GameStop and Best Buy. Meaningless overall I know. Just my limited retail musings.
The good news is that I think that Sony can beat their ass, and MS can still do as well as they did with 360. Console wars aside, this is a great start, and at the very least MS seems to have a healthy console on their hands.
And just to add my experience in Dallas TX day one. The XB1 was sold out at the nearest GameStop and Best Buy. Meaningless overall I know. Just my limited retail musings.
Pop
Member
They can't be neck to neck with Sony in America. C'mon now this is simple math.
the same could be done for the ps4, its a matter of stores holding back some stock for walk ins.
the demand is higher than the ps4, at least in my area here in Canada but it might be due to less units being available at launch. i sold my xbox easily for $800. I still cant move the ps4.
Kocolino67
Member
except you got your console earlier and got banned (till release)
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
I'm not going to pretend to know level of demand for these machines beyond everyone wants one, but only that my store (Best Buy) sold out of PS4 and Xbone day 1.
The key difference though was we had 120+ PS4s to 60+ XBOs.
I think MS should have launched all out in NA first as opposed to trying to do this worldwide launch if they had the capacity and logistics to ship out a million units, it's their strongest territory.
The key difference though was we had 120+ PS4s to 60+ XBOs.
I think MS should have launched all out in NA first as opposed to trying to do this worldwide launch if they had the capacity and logistics to ship out a million units, it's their strongest territory.