GrandHarrier
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The recovery time is definitely forcing me to field more than one super squad. You gotta train up a beta and probably even gamma squad as reliable backup.
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XCOM 2 |OT| Be Aggressive! Be Be Aggressive!
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Yeah, I noticed that too. Another reason to hate those stun lancers
AlimNassor
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Are there any YouTubers playing that aren't steamrolling the game? Like every single one playing are amazing and winning every fight with no injured or dead.
SuperSonic1305
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Does over watch not work while in concealment? I had two enemies run right through my group, break my concealment and immediately kill someone.
Well, I found out what happens if you let a UFO hunt the Avenger. You get shot down is what happens. It showed up on the map, then disappeared, and then I suddenly had an Avenger Defense mission to do.
That was fun! I found out something very useful that others might want to know about that, though. When shooting at an object, you don't roll to hit. If another unit can see the target, a Sharpshooter may be able to get a bead on it from across the map.
I'm really Supplies starved at the moment, had a Dark Event that crippled my income for a month. I'm trying to expand towards one of the facilities. If I'm right, taking one of those out is going to set back the Avatar clock with one or more.
That was fun! I found out something very useful that others might want to know about that, though. When shooting at an object, you don't roll to hit. If another unit can see the target, a Sharpshooter may be able to get a bead on it from across the map.
I'm really Supplies starved at the moment, had a Dark Event that crippled my income for a month. I'm trying to expand towards one of the facilities. If I'm right, taking one of those out is going to set back the Avatar clock with one or more.
TheMrPliskin
Member
Should I be looking to get the squad size upgrade ASAP?
Overwatch doesn't activate if you're concealed, only if combat starts. This can be either by the enemy noticing you or you initiating it. If the enemy notices you it can stand still and fire without your overwatch activating, though (which feels unfair but is consistent with the move = overwatch rule).
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Overwatch will not trigger in concealment, no. My understanding of your situation is specifically that if an unaware enemy patrols to a spot in which you're flanked (ie. no cover behind which to hide) and within line of site then, uniquely, their 'reaction' in that situation can be either a move or take a shot.
Ive already save scummed. I am not ashamed.
You should have auto saves that go back at least 3 turns?
Lanrutcon
Member
But...you get 6 man squads in the game already? Did you do an ini edit just to skip the 2 squad upgrades?
Turin Turambar
Member
But...you get 6 man squads in the game already? Did you do an ini edit just to skip the 2 squad upgrades?
I suppose he wants 6 man squads upgradable to 8?
Turned autosave off, I'm honestmanning (...yeah, I didn't think those two facts taken togeher through) and the last save I have is out on the Geoscape.
Restarting anyway. Got a much better grasp of Geoscape meta now.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Just done the first black site mission and finding this harder than the first :/
The game seems really stingy with engineers, I've still only got 1, and have so much shit to construct D:
When do you get the squad size upgrade?
The game seems really stingy with engineers, I've still only got 1, and have so much shit to construct D:
When do you get the squad size upgrade?
you cant honestman with a game like this. or you get situations where the game isnt honest with you. Example: the situation you just had.
I don't know why people have so many problems with the timers. I don't find them annoying at all and they add a nice change of pace to the regular missions. I accidentally got a soldier captured one time because I wasn't paying attention to the timer early on and ever since then I haven't had any issues with it.
Also here's a tip to people who are still early on. Build resistance comms as soon as you can. You use them to increase the number of contacts you can have. I focused on some other stuff and didn't build comms early and it almost caused me to lose. Luckily I built them in time and was able to shut down some stations to get the project timer down. I was 3 days away from losing while I was doing the mission to reduce the timer.
Also here's a tip to people who are still early on. Build resistance comms as soon as you can. You use them to increase the number of contacts you can have. I focused on some other stuff and didn't build comms early and it almost caused me to lose. Luckily I built them in time and was able to shut down some stations to get the project timer down. I was 3 days away from losing while I was doing the mission to reduce the timer.
Lanrutcon
Member
Wait till later in the game when the enemies are packing 20 health and layers of armor but you're still expected to finish the mission in 8 turns.
Uh, the entire point of honestman is doing ironman but with your own manual backup saves which helps on the exact situation I'm in. ;p
I potentially could have continued my campaign from just prior to this mission, but I'm restarting anyway.
Bingo
I'm already in the late game and that hasn't been an issue for me. Even when I'm fighting the giant mechs and the other late game stuff it hasn't bothered me. You just have to adjust your playstyle for whatever mission you are doing.
AndyMoogle
Member
A tip: You don't have to wait around for the soldier's turn to finish after you've chosen an action. Just switch to your next soldier manually instead of waiting for the game to switch for you. Speeds up the game quite a bit. Still have to wait on those stupid aliens though.
Well after all that fretting I finished the EMP mission without losing a single unit, finally got comms up and running, and am now assaulting a landed UFO. Nostalgic! Oh and the Shadow Chamber gives you an estimate for who's on the ship. I'm due for an ENEMY UNKNOWN apparently
The technical stuff is okay-ish for me, just some slowdowns during in-engine cutscenes for whatever reason. I do wish they had ironed out more of the old clunkiness with the annoying pause between finishing turns and selecting something and it being carried out.
Oh and a pretty cool idea for an expansion would be to have an alien XCOM with an elite squad that would be hot on your heels, dropping in when you take too long on a mission with occasional direct attacks. (Unless something like this exists and I haven't gotten there yet).
Oh and a pretty cool idea for an expansion would be to have an alien XCOM with an elite squad that would be hot on your heels, dropping in when you take too long on a mission with occasional direct attacks. (Unless something like this exists and I haven't gotten there yet).
This is actually improved from EW, where tabbing inbetween soldiers during actions didn't work very well.
RandomSeed
Member
I don't know why you don't like "Something I like but you don't", I mean come on, it's so likable, and a great thing to like. I can't believe somebody doesn't like what I like!
PeterVenkman
Member
God 12 turn VIP missions. Why.
Good to know now that I can hack from a distance. First one went so poorly
Good to know now that I can hack from a distance. First one went so poorly
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I love the VIP missions in XCOM2. I hated them in XCOMEU. The turn timers are a big reason. The VIP missions in XCOMEU were just boooring.
SUFFER NOT THE ALIEN TO LIVE
... I may have been able to do this mission like 8 turns faster, but so much experience
newfoundland again? D:
(dat mission name)
The Jackdog
Member
help.
I attempted it and got smoked. def need to upgrade the squad a bit first.
if it fills, game over?
The avatar project has like 4 ticks left.
if it fills, game over?
The random number generator seed is the same, and saved with the game.
The game seeds the results - reloading doesn't make any difference, because the result of tat roll is already determined. It's deliberate to stop the type of behaviour you are describing, where you can save / load your way to flawless wins every game.
You should be able to change the result by changing the circumstances (e.g have someone else take a shot first, move the soldier etc, but not sure how baked in the results are in advance.
You get a RNG seed for each turn. If your dude has a 90% chance to hit and misses, he will miss on every reload. To reseed, do a move on some other dude.
phazedplasma
Member
SUFFER NOT THE ALIEN TO LIVE
... I may have been able to do this mission like 8 turns faster, but so much experience
Good work commander
After my first terror mission, my game now keeps getting stuck on the globe screen. Like if I load my post-terror mission save, I can do other stuff around my base just fine, but as soon as I go to the globe it's just loads the world map and then I'm stuck, there's nothing I can do on the map and I can't back back out, so I just have to alt-F4 the game. I loaded an earlier save but as soon as I'm done with the terror mission, the same thing happens again.
Help?
Help?
My guess if you want to change the result, change the order that you move and attack with your units.
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