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XCOM 2 |OT| Be Aggressive! Be Be Aggressive!
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Incendiary
Banned
I think saves are fine as long as you don't use mods, but don't quote me on that.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
As if day 1 patches is the solution to everything... lol. I'd rather that they take their time and get the patch right rather than rush it. Besides, I have encountered very few bugs and almost none of them have actually held a real impact and the maybe one that did happened only once... and I have spent way too much time playing this game in the past week.
I'm not saying issues don't exist, but I think the game shipped in fairly great shape. My main issues occurred in the final mission.
I'm not saying issues don't exist, but I think the game shipped in fairly great shape. My main issues occurred in the final mission.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
It's called...
Unrestricted Armour Customization
Haven't used it. No idea how good it is.
Unrestricted Armour Customization
Haven't used it. No idea how good it is.
Appreciate that man. I think it's called "more Armor Customization Options" though since unrestricted didn't turn anything up on the search.
Also I think I was looking more for a completely new armor set that incroporates visible high-tech glowiness into rugged kevlar looking things
I'm probably going to have to restart the campaign to use these mods aren't I
RandomSeed
Member
I just installed Warden/Predator Armor Conventional Addition. Works good as far as I can tell.
Durrzerker
Banned
Most Under Fire:
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The best thing to see at the end of a mission.
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The best thing to see at the end of a mission.
RandomSeed
Member
I dunno, Most Under Fire: Andromedon is also pretty nice.
I was curious if you'd lose mind control on it after it is "killed" (yep), but a proximity mine and some overwatches killed him before I could try haywire protocol to snag him back.
Durrzerker
Banned
I dunno, Most Under Fire: Andromedon is also pretty nice.
I was curious if you'd lose mind control on it after it is "killed" (yep), but a proximity mine and some overwatches killed him before I could try haywire protocol to snag him back.
I like 'blank' even better because it confirms they never even got a shot off. Guerilla warfare, baby.
Shake Appeal
Member
I've encountered plenty of bugs, but most are cosmetic, and none have impacted my overall enjoyment.
The game's overall performance, on the other hand...
You're still multiple times more likely to end a game due to wiping than you are to a bug. Don't do ironman*, keep multiple saves, you should be fine.
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Do ironman with bugs tbh. Live life a little
Wozzer
Member
I've an okay machine (32gig mem, 970, etc) so performance I'd hope isn't an issue, and Gsync will hide it a bit hopefully if not.
Also not too averse to minor bugs, heck I rushed through Fallout 4 at release. As long as there's no heavily game impacting issues and most importantly progress loss I'm all in.
If there are missions with chrysallids from what I hear saves van have problems. But if you're not on ironman that shouldn't be too bad
RandomSeed
Member
The game is great.
The game is choppy on a GTX970 regardless of settings, but it is playable.
I'd snag it if you can accept that it isn't smooth.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
Hmmm...I think that's actually another one!
I'd really like to see some "bleeding edge" type armour choices as well as more contemporary options for chest. arms and legs. I think too many people are still playing the game.
I think by the summer we might have a truckload of customization options.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
I managed to stealth into a facility mission entirely...mostly because I was so badly outmatched by the volume and degree of aliens there.
I wasn't discovered until I had to drop in to plant the bomb. With the help of mimic beacons, smoke grenades and gremlin "bubbles". Everyone extracted the following turn unscathed and I didn't kill a single alien.
The covert mechanic for XCom 2 is turning out to be a far more interesting mechanic than I anticipated.
Shake Appeal
Member
Someone made a "Quiet Bradford" mod. What a world.
Many of the missions have a turn number limit on them now, so sometimes you need to be aggressive instead of taking 9000 turns keeping everyone in overwatch.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Last game, the go-to strategy was to inch forward, making sure you're constantly covered all of the time.
If you do that here you'll get your head handed to you. So be aggressive! B-E, aggressive!
darkwing-buck
Member
Anyone try the trooper class mod? How is it?
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I think I'd like to see a mod that gives 100% optional missions, sort of like the facility missions where you can choose to pursue them on your time. They don't have to be available to start for an unlimited amount of time though.
XCOM 2 is suppposed to be about attacking the aliens, but when you think about it there are very few missions that you actually initialize an attack. Many of them have you just responding to missions popping up. Even guerilla ops are to prevent dark events.
They could be like scan events but they have missions to get the rewards for a higher reward. Maybe the rewards could have guaranteed weapon attachments and elerium cores. Success could also set back retaliation strikes or avatar progress.
So here is a pitch for a mission idea. Just like the retrieval/theft mission where you disarm a container with a bomb, but with more containers. The more containers you retrieve, the higher your reward. This is a much simpler idea which seems like it could be easier to start with. The same could work for some of the other guerilla ops missions, like hacking multiple access points for intel rewards.
XCOM 2 is suppposed to be about attacking the aliens, but when you think about it there are very few missions that you actually initialize an attack. Many of them have you just responding to missions popping up. Even guerilla ops are to prevent dark events.
They could be like scan events but they have missions to get the rewards for a higher reward. Maybe the rewards could have guaranteed weapon attachments and elerium cores. Success could also set back retaliation strikes or avatar progress.
So here is a pitch for a mission idea. Just like the retrieval/theft mission where you disarm a container with a bomb, but with more containers. The more containers you retrieve, the higher your reward. This is a much simpler idea which seems like it could be easier to start with. The same could work for some of the other guerilla ops missions, like hacking multiple access points for intel rewards.
I'm enjoying the a lot, but activating the enemy patrols is really bugging me. I think I wish concealment and activation worked differently.
If you break concealment and destroy the group before they complete a round, you get concealment again. If its longer then that the group reports in and now all enemy patrols start to converge on your location. Perhaps have a radio unit you can focus on destroying to prevent this. The fact that you can be invading some huge facility and groups of three units just chill and do nothing while you are wrecking their base is annoying. If you screw up your ambushes I would love to have to make a tough defensive stand or have to retreat in the face of an alerted base.
If you break concealment and destroy the group before they complete a round, you get concealment again. If its longer then that the group reports in and now all enemy patrols start to converge on your location. Perhaps have a radio unit you can focus on destroying to prevent this. The fact that you can be invading some huge facility and groups of three units just chill and do nothing while you are wrecking their base is annoying. If you screw up your ambushes I would love to have to make a tough defensive stand or have to retreat in the face of an alerted base.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Eh. Not if you've got your backfield set up properly.
Still not a great idea, I'll admit. But I've had more success from risky dashes during fights than I have from sitting and trying to grind the bastards down.
Unless it was a late night hallucination, I did see a guerrilla op as a geoscape scan option once. Not sure what it would have done, exactly.
Glitchesarecool
Member
No idea since I don't have the game but damn if the image of a guy running around with a scope strapped to his sword isn't hilarious to me.
I think it's more of a measured approach than just constant aggression which seems to be what people think, like with Street Fighter V.
It's just that the past game (could) lead to such a slow approach that actually being compelled to attack is different.
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Only one more gigabyte to finally get in on this and I can't wait! From what I've seen I'm going to love it more than Enemy Unknown. I was actually playing EU while waiting but when I got to the moscow invasion there was a weird grid of what looked like flames over the screen. Few reloads didn't fix it either so stuck staring at a percentage climbing now, hype intact still. What difficulty would you guys recommend for someone who knows what they're doing but tends make a lot of mistakes regardless?
Did my favorite mission so far last night - enemy VIP capture or kill op. I set up shop on top of a huge building, rained death and grenades down on some advent commanders, then had a fairly expendable squaddie ranger earn her stripes by darting in, socking the VIP in the gut, and hauling his ass out to the extraction point while a mimic beacon drew away fire.
Then after an "oh shit" viper-tongue pit stop that prevented my star grenadier from eating it with a well-timed Lightning Hands play, we hauled out to extraction right as an interceptor with a fresh MEC and two more troopers landed. Cover fire from my veterans as the newbies evacced first, then my senior ranking specialist picking up the rear and grabbing the rope right before the MEC bore down on her.
This game delivers in spades. I haven't gotten back to The Witness or ever started Firewatch, even though I've been massively excited for bothm, because I just want to quit my job, turn off my phone, and play XCOM 2 until I pass out.
Then after an "oh shit" viper-tongue pit stop that prevented my star grenadier from eating it with a well-timed Lightning Hands play, we hauled out to extraction right as an interceptor with a fresh MEC and two more troopers landed. Cover fire from my veterans as the newbies evacced first, then my senior ranking specialist picking up the rear and grabbing the rope right before the MEC bore down on her.
This game delivers in spades. I haven't gotten back to The Witness or ever started Firewatch, even though I've been massively excited for bothm, because I just want to quit my job, turn off my phone, and play XCOM 2 until I pass out.
Honestly, if I could distill why XCOM 2 is clicking with me so much more than XCOM into a single sentence, it's that I find the timers forcing you constantly forward and permastealthed Ranger scouts letting you do so reasonably safely while getting the drop and ambushing every pod w. Squadsight or rockets makes for a much more compelling tactical game than playing Creeper Wars 5: Safety First Edition.
I went to Classic right away in EU and had fun and in this I'm having fun with Veteran now. I'll move up to Commander later but for now Veteran is good challenge. I'd say go with Veteran but be prepared to learn from your mistakes.
The Incredible Muffin
Member
Man, im in my third campaign Commander Iron Man, and i keep getting raped on the fourth mission every time. (first resistance save mission)
What should I do? Im not assuming this game will get any easier.
Should I do veteran Iron Man, or Commander and save before each mission?
I think EU had dumber and less aliens on medium, that I dont want.
What should I do? Im not assuming this game will get any easier.
Should I do veteran Iron Man, or Commander and save before each mission?
I think EU had dumber and less aliens on medium, that I dont want.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I just had my first unit go into a bleed out state rather than just dying outright. It happened when he was crit while burning. The crit brought him into range to die from the burning, but instead he started to bleed out. After I stabilized him, I noticed I could actually use revival protocol to bring him back on his feet, although the mission ended before I had a chance to.
This is my advice. Go straight for squad up (unlocks additional squad members). It worked for me on commander, failed every time on legendary. First start building the guerrilla tactics school right away. Next, ensure you promote at least one soldier to sergeant. It is very doable on commander in the first 3 missions before the retaliation mission hits. Finally, with GTS and a sergeant, you can get your fifth squad member unlocked and go into the first retaliation mission with 5 people.
The GTS is also very useful for supplementing your squad with squaddies when your main guys are injured.
This is my advice. Go straight for squad up (unlocks additional squad members). It worked for me on commander, failed every time on legendary. First start building the guerrilla tactics school right away. Next, ensure you promote at least one soldier to sergeant. It is very doable on commander in the first 3 missions before the retaliation mission hits. Finally, with GTS and a sergeant, you can get your fifth squad member unlocked and go into the first retaliation mission with 5 people.
The GTS is also very useful for supplementing your squad with squaddies when your main guys are injured.
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Quiet, Bradford!
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UpDownLeftRight
Banned
I went to Classic right away in EU and had fun and in this I'm having fun with Veteran now. I'll move up to Commander later but for now Veteran is good challenge. I'd say go with Veteran but be prepared to learn from your mistakes.
Thanks! Giving it a try but so far wow the first mission is really kicking my ass. Not through the difficulty directly but just the mind control and reanimation. They really don't hold back at the start of the game in this one!
I feel this
I created a few sniper characters who became medics or heavies, or a medic character who became a sniper
I think that only determines their class if they show up as a "leveled-up" reward, to prevent you from picking your newbie recruits based on class and keep it somewhat random.
Slackbladder
Member
Mods are your friend. Get the mod that extends the timers or the one that turns them off. Simples.
A bug I found in one of the repeatable missions - kill or capture a dark vip. So, I got to her and was standing right next to her and ended my turn. An Advent Trooper fires and misses but hits the car. It's going to go boom on the next turn. So when my turn comes I knock the vip out, pick er up and run off. I end my turn and the car goes boom. Now Bradford informs me the vip was killed when one of my squad still has her on their shoulder. So when I finish the mission I lose out on intel. Not a big problem but annoying.
Mod it.
One mod to turn off (most) timers and another one to extend the Avatar counter. Hopefully we'll be able to turn it off completely at some point.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Doesn't turning off the avatar counter completely basically remove the lose condition? Only way to get beat after that is losing the base defense, which generally isn't going to happen unless you're rushing trying to beat the avatar counter.
Solideliquid
Member
Has anyone heard if they will patch the game so you can play with the XBox1 controller without having 3rd party software soon?
RandomSeed
Member
The mod that adds a few turns seem pretty balanced. You don't need to sprint to the end, but you can't just turtle forward spamming overwatch.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I really like the look of the one that halts the countdown while you're concealed, but I'm saving it for a second (okay, technically 6th) playthrough with a whole pile of rebalancing mods enabled at once.
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