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Ys 7 - US Release August 17th - $29.99 retail and PSN |OT|
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AbortedWalrusFetus
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Purchased last night. I only got to play for a tiny bit before I had to sleep, but it's great so far! I've been waiting for this game forever.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Side question, since I can't check right this moment, is Ark of Napishtim up on the PSN store?
archnemesis
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Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Ah, that's a shame.. wonder if the boat for that passed on the Konami side.archnemesis said:
The port mostly fixes itself up running off the memory stick.
Yeah, there could be rights issues on the Konami/Hudson side re: Ys VI. but they have been going through some of their back catalog and putting it up on PSN, so it might still happen.
Loading off memory stick doesn't do much for the game though. Yes, the loads are slightly less long, but that won't help those spoiled by Ys VII. And the graphics are still going to be blurry and nasty; and the framerate utterly atrocious! Still love the game, though!
Loading off memory stick doesn't do much for the game though. Yes, the loads are slightly less long, but that won't help those spoiled by Ys VII. And the graphics are still going to be blurry and nasty; and the framerate utterly atrocious! Still love the game, though!
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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valenti said:
What?
Uh... What are you talking about? This is a game where you can save anywhere outside of a boss battle or a cutscene. The retry option is there to streamline the process of getting back into the fight and not rewatching cutscenes.valenti said:
It still puts you back in the beginning of the fight. It doesn't make the encounter easier. And if you still can't win, you can always reload in order to gain more levels and/or upgrade equipment.
Mejilan said:
Uh... What are you talking about? Retry option =/= not rewatching cutscenes. I'm saying the retry method makes the game MUCH less punishing for dying. Basically you have infinite lives in a Mario game.
Boss battles are based on patterns. So knowing their pattern after you die, however many (with no punishment), makes the subsequent encounters MUCH easier. If they added where you lose some gold for punishment (say 5-10%?), the game could give some incentive for trying.
That said, this game is amazing.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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valenti said:
What? Your complaint seems so odd. There are tons of games with that methods of playing and it doesn't make difficulty not matter...
AgentOtaku
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Decided to cancel my LE and just go with the PSN version. Got tired of waiting and ultimately decided I'd rather be able to play it on my both my PSP2000 and GO.
That and I only really wanted to check out the artbook but couldn't justify the extra $20 just for that.
Gonna start playing in a bit
That and I only really wanted to check out the artbook but couldn't justify the extra $20 just for that.
Gonna start playing in a bit
What would be the point in specifically punishing the user for utilizing the retry option? You can save anywhere as is, including right before a boss fight, most of which are also prefaced with a healing monument. As I said, the retry option is there to avoid the usual interface shenanigans (select load game, browse to save file, confirm the file load, re-watch cutscenes and boss reveals) and jump right back into the fight. As you said, the bosses are about learning the patterns and properly executing a counter strategy. Forcing you to fiddle with the interface after a loss isn't a punishment that ups the difficulty. It's a mere annoyance. Conversely, restarting the fight from the beginning (instead of forcing you to load your save from the safe room just before the fight) doesn't make that encounter any easier.valenti said:
Ys games have never punished you for dying, outside of forcing a reload. In the case of boss battles, they're almost always identified beforehand, giving you an opportunity to heal and save. Losing gold or resources upon death are more relevant for traditional RPGs like FF or DQ that allow you to keep most of your progress (exp, loot, events) upon death.
It doesn't really make sense for a game that allows you to save anywhere. In any event, there's no real cause to compare an ARPG to a Mario platformer! Save/reload anywhere mechanics are basically infinite lives no matter how you slice it. The retry option doesn't change that at all!
I suppose I can understand having a basic issue with the infinite lives nature of RPGs in general, but this isn't something that's ever going to change outside of an ironman mode in a Rogue-like, and it seems a bit silly to specifically call out Ys 7's boss retry option. And Ys games in general are already infinitely more customizable than your average RPG, what with 3-5 difficulty settings available outside the box, so to speak.
Haven't gotten far (grinding in the plains, enjoying the music), but I must say I'm digging the fast paced combat system. Seeing monsters explode into an orgy of loot never gets old. Also, after having played a bunch of SMT/Persona games the past three years, the old school fantasy setting feels fresh again.
I think I'm going to like this series.
When's the next one coming out?
I think I'm going to like this series.
When's the next one coming out?
bishopcruz
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Beat the 3rd boss last night, not one of Falcom's better bosses...
Still I am LOVING the combat. Ys games just make me happy, they are just so well and tightly designed they do very little new, but they are always so well desifned they make old school a joy to play again. It's crazy how I'm generally tired of JRPGs, except when it comes to Falcom.
hated that I would inevitably knock out its last leg when it was stuck in a corner, so at most 1 of my part could wail on the tongue. Also hated getting trapped by it.
Still I am LOVING the combat. Ys games just make me happy, they are just so well and tightly designed they do very little new, but they are always so well desifned they make old school a joy to play again. It's crazy how I'm generally tired of JRPGs, except when it comes to Falcom.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Figures today is the one day UPS has to be late delivering. :/
Definitely. As Aeana mentioned, they basically bought Deuce's fan translations for Oath and Ys 1&2. Which were already quite excellent, I might add. I'm sure they'll do some final tweaking, but 99.9% of the grunt translation work is already done. Also, the retailers settled on the final 8/17 release date for Ys 7 well before XSeed announced it. Pretty sure that current retailer projections jive with the hazy timeline XSeed discussed when the Falcom partnership was first announced.bad-joey said:
I don't think slotting such a niche game as Ys Oath is a smart tactic during what's going to be a packed holiday season, though. I'd probably release Oath in January at this point, and Chronicles in April or May.
I'm about to go get a copy at the local GameStop, but Im just wondering-- how good is the soundtrack? I dunno if I should shell out the extra cash for the LE. I saw a gameplay video a couple days back and heard a boss song that had violins in it which was all kinds of awesome. Is the rest of the soundtrack like that?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Wow, limited edition box is pretty huge.
Takeda Kenshi
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My copy from Gamestop's website is 'backordered' even though the game is showing up as 'In Stock.' Gah... They also saw fit to charge me already. Looks like I'll be waiting a bit before I get a chance to play. :/
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Takeda Kenshi said:
Amazon fo' lyfe.
Gazel Ministry
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I started on Nightmare and I just finished the spider boss. Holy shit was the fight I had with him epic! On Nightmare you pretty much HAVE to master the perfect flash guard. I think this is my favorite PSP game of all time, let alone one of my favorite games of all time! This game is unbelievably balanced. The perfect guard feels as slick as doing the counter guard in Bayonetta!
I am 6 hours in on Nightmare at LV10 and I have 3 bosses down. It feels soooo good. I would suggest starting over on Nightmare for those who are finding the game maybe a bit too easy. This difficulty brings out the best aspects of the combat system and it makes boss battles feel incredibly rewarding.
I am 6 hours in on Nightmare at LV10 and I have 3 bosses down. It feels soooo good. I would suggest starting over on Nightmare for those who are finding the game maybe a bit too easy. This difficulty brings out the best aspects of the combat system and it makes boss battles feel incredibly rewarding.
bishopcruz
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Just beat the Fire Temple and this game keeps getting better and better. This is the best ARPG I have played since... well Ys Origin. Soundtrack is pretty amazing too, though it seems that it is actively trying to emulate old tracks sometimes. Anyone else getting an Ys IV vibe from the tunes?
I also have to say that the quest system is great. This is how to do side quests in a JRPG, its not essential, but it rewards you for playing normally and has you keeping an eye out for items and monsters while on the main path. Something tells me I'm going to be re-installing OiF once I finish with this one.
I very much hope this game does well enough to be worth it for XSEED. Especially now that Falcom has dropped PC development.
I also have to say that the quest system is great. This is how to do side quests in a JRPG, its not essential, but it rewards you for playing normally and has you keeping an eye out for items and monsters while on the main path. Something tells me I'm going to be re-installing OiF once I finish with this one.
I very much hope this game does well enough to be worth it for XSEED. Especially now that Falcom has dropped PC development.
So the EBGames where I pre-ordered was giving me the runaround,delayed till the 30th of August,bla bla,bla so I transfered my 5 bucks on my existing Valkyria 2 pre-order and told him I would download this from PSN,since I`m not getting the LE... he must of been pissed a bit but hey,i`m still a good customer hehe...i`ll start this tonight =)
Picked this up the other day, had a chat with the GS clerk about how to pronounce the game... he was like "is it pronounced WISE or Y-S?"... so I told him the correct pronunciation and spelling (i.e. no apostrophe) and told him he should get a copy. Haven't played myself, since I am away on business travel and don't have my PSP with me.
LiquidMetal14
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GOT MINE!
How!!?Aeana said:
Easystride
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Got my order from Amazon earlier, and I am really enjoying it so far after about an hour and a half of play. This is my first Ys game, and the battle system is a real nice change of pace from the turn-based RPGs I have been playing lately. I pre-ordered the next Ys PSP game coming out since it was in my Amazon gold box today. So many good PSP games are coming out between now and the end of the year. Gonna be hard to decide what to buy day one, and what games to wait for price drops.