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Ys I & II Chronicles+ |OT|: A Valentine's Day Double Date With Two Goddesses!
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Sure. Just keep in mind that Ys 1's peers are Final Fantasy 1 and Dragon Quest 1. I think it's pretty darn impressive in that framing, personally.
The only truly awful part is the last boss. The rest of it is really charming and fun but the gamey game doesn't hold a candle to Felghana and Origins.
On the other hand, I just started Ys 2 and I'm impressed so far! It's a pretty big jump.
I remember seeing early Ys games in magazines at the time. They always looked goddamned incredible but I didn't own a system they were on so I forgot about them. My first game was Felghana on Steam!
Megami Tensei vs Ys - discuss. DQ and FF were scrubs anyway!
Wut. Ys1&2 are available on like... pretty much every single platform back then. Seriously!
Not in the English-speaking world, though. You could only play Ys I on DOS or the Sega Master System, or Ys I & II on the TurboGrafx-16 CD. And while DOS gaming was reasonably big back then, and I played a lot of DOS games back in the day, I actually never once saw the game in any stores, nor even heard of it -- so it probably wasn't marketed very effectively.
As for the SMS and TG16 versions... neither system was particularly huge, with the SMS completely upstaged by the NES and the TG16 completely upstaged by the Genesis and SNES, so I don't think the game got too much exposure.
Ys III, on the other hand, was released for all three major 16-bit consoles, and I don't know many gamers back then who HADN'T heard of it or played it. Unfortunately, its reputation was pretty mediocre, so it never really caught anyone's attention enough to warrant checking out the rest of the series (though I had the SNES version, personally, and I loved the hell out of it!).
And... that was the last we heard of the series in English until Konami released Ys VI on PS2 a decade later.
I think if the NES versions of Ys I and Ys II were released in English, the series might've caught on a lot more (despite those versions of the game being a little wonky), but sadly, that never happened, and the series slipped into obscurity for far too long.
Possibly. Ys II is a much, much better game than Ys I, though, so you *might* enjoy it... but if you want a change of pace, playing Felghana or Seven should definitely give that to you, and you might then find yourself enjoying Ys II a lot more.
-Tom
I forgot to mention that I went into II right after I. So I was really into it at first. But I played YS I with a guide the whole time since I just want to play the newer games while still doing the story. (When I did YSI without a guide I ended up just wasting a lot of time without any progress).
R
Retro_
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These achievements are making me realize I missed some things when I played through the game a few months back on PC
but I need some more distance from that playthrough before I'll even consider going back to Soloman shrine again.
Got me to continue my Origins playthrough while waiting for Rising though
So what's the verdict on these ports from the series veteran's?(Aeana)
but I need some more distance from that playthrough before I'll even consider going back to Soloman shrine again.
Got me to continue my Origins playthrough while waiting for Rising though
So what's the verdict on these ports from the series veteran's?(Aeana)
I feel that Falcom retained a lot of the differences in the Complete/Eternal/Chronicles remakes simply because they want to show that difference. The leap from Ys1 to Ys2 is representative of the evolution of the series, and something they probably wanted to retain. If not, they would have just remade both games into a single title.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Damn, already beat Ys 2.
I really thought it was longer, but my time was about 5 hours (and that included at least 30 minutes of wandering)
I really thought it was longer, but my time was about 5 hours (and that included at least 30 minutes of wandering)
All this time I've thought Falcom was PC exclusive in their early days. Wow. I stand corrected.
Well, to be fair, they mostly were -- console ports were usually handled by third-party companies, with only a few exceptions in the mid-90s (the Super Famicom version of Popful Mail, Ys V, and the Legend of Xanadu games, if I'm not mistaken).
It wasn't until 2006 when Falcom started doing in-house PSP development that they really made the shift away from PC.
-Tom
Okay maybe I am confusing my memory but a little help is required for someone using a phone as their only outlet to the outside world:
Ys I
I'll hand in the harmonica in the meantime. Maybe that's what is stopping me.
Ys I
I have eaten the Roda Tree Seed and went to talk to the NW tree then the SE tree. Silver Sword isn't popping up?
I'll hand in the harmonica in the meantime. Maybe that's what is stopping me.
They have. Origins and Felghana (the later being the best game in the series) are out for Steam (Felghana is also available for the PSP.
Also, Ark of Napishtim is out for the PS2, while not as good as the PC version, it's the best and easiest way to play the game (short of buying the Japanese version and patching it). Really hope XSEED is able to get their hands on the PC version of the game, as Napishtim is utterly fantastic (not as good as Felghana though).
Ys Seven is available for the PSP (and I hope the PC version gets released outside of China).
Remember, though, the PSP supports TV-out, so you could always play Ys Seven on your TV and pretend your PSP is just a really weirdly-shaped controller.
(I actually really like how the 2000-series+ PSPs feel when held, to be honest, so I'm really not joking. Give it a shot sometime, and you might find Ys Seven is a pretty fun game to play on the big screen! Though this sadly won't work with Celceta.)
-Tom
Overall, it's the PC version.
However, since the PC version isn't available outside of Japan, the PS2 version is perfectly playable (there's some framerate issues, but nothing to serious), you just lose out on the superior sprites, but you get Alma's Trials
Avoid the PSP version unless you've got a hacked PSP and can run the game via the Memory Stick, otherwise the load times are just god awful.
Falcom is updating all of the PC Ys games (Napishtim, Felghana, Chronicles and Origins) to fully support Windows 8 and will be selling them for 3,990 yen, but they're still only available in Japan.
Sweet Jesus fuck finally!
I got one of the Ys' on a Steam sale, and it's all just going up a tower or something, and I found the attacking mechanics lame. I loved the Sega Master System Ys and even replayed it a couple of years back and loved it.
This seems like the game for me!
Which is the best of the modern Ys'? As I said, I played the one in the tower.
I got one of the Ys' on a Steam sale, and it's all just going up a tower or something, and I found the attacking mechanics lame. I loved the Sega Master System Ys and even replayed it a couple of years back and loved it.
This seems like the game for me!
Which is the best of the modern Ys'? As I said, I played the one in the tower.
Whaaaaaat Ys Origins is awesome, although it is more like a hack and slash. The third character is the best simply because the Godspeed spell has so many uses and it makes you look like a badass. Although the game can be pretty hard.
Looked it up, yes, I played Origins.
I guess I was expecting it to be more like Ys for the SEGAMS, it was my first foray into the modern PC Ys series and it dissapointed me. I'm gonna have to play Ys I and II on this release though.
Is the Ys II the same one as the SNES, or is it like a SMB2: Lost Levels dealie?
If you found the combat mechanics to be lame in Ys Origin, then... most likely, you wouldn't enjoy ANY of the modern Ys titles, since those are easily among the most refined out of them all.
Maybe Ys Seven? It's different enough from Ys Origin that it miiiiight appeal to you -- though it still feels very similar where it counts, they just replaced jumping with dashing/rolling.
If you disliked the combat in Ys Origin, though, that definitely precludes you from enjoying Ys: The Oath in Felghana AND Ys: The Ark of Napishtim, since all three of those games use the same engine.
Depends on what you mean by "definitive." Personally, the PS2 version is my favorite solely because it has voice-acting. Same reason the PSP version of Felghana is my favorite.
As long as the gameplay isn't much different, I'll always pick the version with voice-acting over the version without. That's simply more important to me than framerate or resolution or any such thing.
However, if you're a stickler for smooth framerates and high-resolution visuals, then it's definitely the PC version. By a mile.
Actually, the SNES game was Ys III, not Ys II. Felghana is a remake of Ys III, but it's a totally different gameplay style with an expanded story and larger world.
Ys II was only ever playable in English on the TurboGrafx-16 CD, Nintendo DS and... erm... cell phones prior to our release of Chronicles.
(Well, and via fan-translation on PC. But Chronicles+ is better than that version! Heheheh)
-Tom
PixyJunket
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Ys I Nightmare COMPLETE.
Truly, that was Falcom's worst designed difficulty level; hopefully Ys II's feels less janky.
Truly, that was Falcom's worst designed difficulty level; hopefully Ys II's feels less janky.
PixyJunket
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It took me just under an hour of retries to beat Dark Fact.
Moving in zig zag patterns helps a little bit to avoid too many pink shots hitting you. Also, once you feel you've covered enough area on a corner, try to graze him as he's moving past that corner, you'll do a lot of damage but cut off that side/corner. Bonus if you can graze him in that same diagonal a second time! At this point you'll have a few hits left with a SMALL area of mobility. So I don't have many other tips, I feel a lot of it is just luck, haha.
Add me into the "not 100% digging the 3D Ys games" crowd...
My favorite Ys is Ys III for pure nostalgia reasons...(the 2D one) I imported the soundtrack and remix soundtrack back in late 90s for some ridiculous amount of money, I do have a special place in my heart for Ys I and II too though
My favorite Ys is Ys III for pure nostalgia reasons...(the 2D one) I imported the soundtrack and remix soundtrack back in late 90s for some ridiculous amount of money, I do have a special place in my heart for Ys I and II too though
Baiting him to run around the walls of the room is the only way that seems easiest. The bats will bunch up and it's not too difficult to run in a rectangle the entire battle. But yeah, it's dumb.
I haven't played any 3D ones yet but what didn't you like about them? Obviously, the 2D ones retain their prettiness no matter how much they age.
Little trick: When he splits into bats run up and down top to bottom, this will bunch the bats up way faster and makes him pretty easy.
Pyrrhus
Member
I've had this issue with all of the Ys PC games that have been released on Steam where the video will cut out randomly for two or three seconds. Has anyone else encountered that? It's happened in OiF, Origins, and now 1+2. These are the only games I've had this happen with and I've changed video cards from ATI to NVidia since first encountering the problem in OiF and the problem has remained.
I love the anime. It reminds me of my childhood, probably because it feels soooo much like watching old Saturday morning cartooons.
Definitely a fantastic example of a game-to-anime adaption done right.-Tom
chaosblade
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I thought the anime seemed really disconnected from the game, but I only watched the Ys I part.
And the translation and voice acting was horrible, and inconsistent.
And the translation and voice acting was horrible, and inconsistent.
I bought this the other day, didn't really play it yet (having already played through Ys 1/2 Eternal and the Turbo CD version, among others).. just started it to make sure it worked fine. My only question is, maybe I'm just slow, but how do you go into fullscreen mode?
The translation was fine, aside from some of the names being off (the most egregious error being Felghana translated as "Fergara")... and the voice-acting in English was hammy, but you could tell the actors were having a blast with it (especially if you watched the dub outtakes, which are among the best I've ever seen!), so I can totally give it a pass.
The story, too, stuck pretty close to the plot of the game... for Ys 1, anyway. For Ys 2, it diverged a LOT, but I actually think the anime plot is in many ways more interesting than the game's, adding numerous elements that give the story more impact (in the anime version, the residents of Ys had no idea they lived on a floating continent, and believed Adol to be a heretic for claiming as such).
The numerous differences present all the more reason to check out the anime, though, IMHO. After all, if it were exactly the same story, what would be the point? You could just play the game instead!
Start the game through your Steam library, and there's an option to "run configuration." Select that, and tick off the check-box for full-screen mode from there.
-Tom
chaosblade
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The translation was fine, aside from some of the names being off (the most egregious error being Felghana translated as "Fergara")... and the voice-acting in English was hammy, but you could tell the actors were having a blast with it (especially if you watched the dub outtakes, which are among the best I've ever seen!), so I can totally give it a pass.
The story, too, stuck pretty close to the plot of the game... for Ys 1, anyway. For Ys 2, it diverged a LOT, but I actually think the anime plot is in many ways more interesting than the game's, adding numerous elements that give the story more impact (in the anime version, the residents of Ys had no idea they lived on a floating continent, and believed Adol to be a heretic for claiming as such).
The numerous differences present all the more reason to check out the anime, though, IMHO. After all, if it were exactly the same story, what would be the point? You could just play the game instead!
I guess I mean the direction and editing more than anything. I recall them using two different pronunciations for Adol (Ah-dol, Ae-dol), and like three different translations for Dark Fact (wasn't he called "Dark Factor" in one of the first episodes?).
As for the bolded that makes me want to break out Ys II and watch it, because I want to see how they justify that.
ShadowgeistX
Member
Argh, Ys I final boss on Nightmare is killing me. =(
I'm blaming this on Hugo, it has to be his fault somehow.
I'm blaming this on Hugo, it has to be his fault somehow.
They were actually pretty consistent with their pronunciations of Adol and Dark Factor (yes, it was Dark Factor) in Ys 1, though they changed those pronunciations entirely for Ys 2... but then remained consistent with them throughout Ys 2. It was kind of odd!
Surprisingly well! Give it a watch. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by how good it is.
It's also much better on a technical level than the Ys 1 anime, though that seems to have come at a cost: despite being a longer story, it only had 4 episodes to tell it, versus the first game's 7.
-Tom
PixyJunket
Member
Demon Duster achievements for Ys II is done glitched!
Also, I got this after the ending movie (where your translator's name is spelled wrong, hehe).
Retry took me back to title screen, I wasn't sure if there was a title card like after Ys I.
Also, I got this after the ending movie (where your translator's name is spelled wrong, hehe).
Retry took me back to title screen, I wasn't sure if there was a title card like after Ys I.