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Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward |OT| -- More Hours, More Persons, More Doors
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Ok... WTF is going on with this game and its release dates in every european country except for france and the UK?
Amazon spain lists it for february 15ths, amazon italy says it's february 22nd and amazon germany just moved it to march 8th (from january 27th).
so what the hell?
why is it out in france, the uk and the eshop, but not in retail anywhere else? Is it even coming out anymore? or has it been canceled?.
can somebody recommend me a good french or uk site to order it from? I am tired of waiting.
Amazon spain lists it for february 15ths, amazon italy says it's february 22nd and amazon germany just moved it to march 8th (from january 27th).
so what the hell?
why is it out in france, the uk and the eshop, but not in retail anywhere else? Is it even coming out anymore? or has it been canceled?.
can somebody recommend me a good french or uk site to order it from? I am tired of waiting.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Funnily enough I didn't get any craches in the PEC room. I did get one in the Archives though, doing the
You figured out the green code? There's another
dice puzzle
You figured out the green code? There's another
pattern just like it the one you used to find it, but shorter, and right in plain sight
grim-tales
Member
I'm thinking maybe the game has been really popular in the UK (which is good thing) and Amazon have had to get more stock in?
I'm getting a bit fed up of waiting though, I want my 999 fix, damn it
I'm getting a bit fed up of waiting though, I want my 999 fix, damn it
Spoilers for events probably past where you are:
Yeah, that ended up happening for me both for Alice and for Phi, but Alice first, so the Phi thing wasn't so suprising (I went Tenyouji, Alice, and then Luna initial path) but still awesome.
Damn, I love how you see events differently in the initial stages of the game after you reach at least one ending. I mean,
I wouldn't notice it without getting the Dio ending first. Also,
I've just realized that Quark and Dio look quite alike after Quark went mental in the infirmary.
Dio manipulating everyone into thinking there is no pandemic and me realizing he killed the old woman in the beginning as he wasn't intended to be in the Nonary game originally.
The dart puzzle in the REC room took me too long.. I got the secondary answer first, then couldn't manage to get the primary answer... In the end I still don't really know what I did, haha
lol I'd love to know what the correct understanding was supposed to be.
Also confusing in that room:
For the secondary one I believe I followed the "greater than" symbols... But then I don't think that was correct, as I could put them in any order and it'd still work :/
Then for the primary one, I was thinking small to big order, because the sizes on the item went from small to big, red - blue - green. But that didn't work... So i ended up just fluking it, I think :S
Then for the primary one, I was thinking small to big order, because the sizes on the item went from small to big, red - blue - green. But that didn't work... So i ended up just fluking it, I think :S
Also confusing in that room:
I never had a use for the shadows of the suits of armour.. The spotlight switch and all that. Never used it!
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
it's just to highlight the weapons i think
SpaceBridge
Member
Is the demo for this indicative of the actual game? I didn't have that much fun with the demo.
onlyindreams
Banned
it's a visual novel. you play it for the story. :l
SpaceBridge
Member
Would that be a yes?
PurpleMaster
Member
Hard to say!
What did you find boring? The novel part or the puzzle part?
If the first, this game isn't for you.
If the latter, you can play it, but I don't know!
What did you find boring? The novel part or the puzzle part?
If the first, this game isn't for you.
If the latter, you can play it, but I don't know!
SpaceBridge
Member
The story part was good, the puzzle was obtuse and non intuitive.
PurpleMaster
Member
Roughly 90% of the game is story, with some puzzle sections put here and there.
the room you played was one of the worst, IMHO...
the room you played was one of the worst, IMHO...
SpaceBridge
Member
So the demo wasn't a true reflection then.
My next question: Vita or 3DS version?
PurpleMaster
Member
3DS has a game-breaking bug, which can be easily avoided, but it's still a big problem.
Vita version is far superior, with the only downside of clunkier controls.
But that's my opinion, I played the game on both consoles and I really loved the Vita one better.
BTW, this game is the sequel of 999 for DS.
If you get ahold of a copy, you should play that first!
Vita version is far superior, with the only downside of clunkier controls.
But that's my opinion, I played the game on both consoles and I really loved the Vita one better.
BTW, this game is the sequel of 999 for DS.
If you get ahold of a copy, you should play that first!
SpaceBridge
Member
I have a copy of 999 on the shelf. Is that really required to play?
onlyindreams
Banned
yeah, this is a direct sequel
PurpleMaster
Member
I'ma broken record.
While 999 isn't NECESSARY to the understanding of the plot, having played it gives you much more satisfaction once you start unraveling some mysteries.
And VLR spoils 999, so you can't come back!
While 999 isn't NECESSARY to the understanding of the plot, having played it gives you much more satisfaction once you start unraveling some mysteries.
And VLR spoils 999, so you can't come back!
Crash Station
Member
Yes.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yes. 999 is in some ways the better game and playing VLR first will ruin 999's story for you
False, you don't need to play 999 to enjoy VLR.
I didn't play 999 (and I refuse to, since it sounds clunky as fuck and basically requires you to play with a FAQ to get the most ouf of it) and I had a great time with VLR.
I'd hate to draw the ire of Zero Escape fanatics, but the story (while enjoyable) isn't really that amazing that you need to torture yourself any play 999 to enjoy the direct nods back to 999 that happen to be in VLR. Another thing is that the game does a great job of mentioning "hey, this happened in 999" or "hey, this was a character in 999." Just look up the character/event reference on a wiki if you feel so inclined to do so.
Sorry if I offended anyone's delicate sensibilities with this post, but I feel the perspective is required from someone who didn't play 999 and really liked VLR all the same.
In a similar sense, I'm really hoping that the 3rd chapter after this makes some small mechanical advancements that make replaying things less of a chore (don't run me through entire 15 minute sections of text while skipping, for instance. I can't really go into how I'd like the skipping to be handled unless I go into spoiler territory.). I know there's an option to skip things. The interface is just a bit of a mess. (I played on 3DS.)
I didn't play 999 (and I refuse to, since it sounds clunky as fuck and basically requires you to play with a FAQ to get the most ouf of it) and I had a great time with VLR.
I'd hate to draw the ire of Zero Escape fanatics, but the story (while enjoyable) isn't really that amazing that you need to torture yourself any play 999 to enjoy the direct nods back to 999 that happen to be in VLR. Another thing is that the game does a great job of mentioning "hey, this happened in 999" or "hey, this was a character in 999." Just look up the character/event reference on a wiki if you feel so inclined to do so.
Sorry if I offended anyone's delicate sensibilities with this post, but I feel the perspective is required from someone who didn't play 999 and really liked VLR all the same.
In a similar sense, I'm really hoping that the 3rd chapter after this makes some small mechanical advancements that make replaying things less of a chore (don't run me through entire 15 minute sections of text while skipping, for instance. I can't really go into how I'd like the skipping to be handled unless I go into spoiler territory.). I know there's an option to skip things. The interface is just a bit of a mess. (I played on 3DS.)
Torture yourself? Many of us consider 999 the better game
. Pretty much anyone who's played both would tell you playing 999 first will give you a greatly enhanced experience. Sure, VLR is very good on it's own, but it can be better if you follow the story properly.
Some of those reveals are just okay on their own but shocking if you played the first.
I can see how you'd feel that way about the story without playing 999 though, VLR wouldn't be as cool for you, I think.
at least story wise
Some of those reveals are just okay on their own but shocking if you played the first.
I can see how you'd feel that way about the story without playing 999 though, VLR wouldn't be as cool for you, I think.
The conceit on my end is that, now, having only played VLR and experienced its upgrades in basic usability, I could not go back to 999. I don't care how great the story is.
There is no flow chart in 999, correct? (Kind of makes sense, but I feel spoiled now.) How does skipping work in 999?
There's not much gameplay in Zero Escape games as is, so I think reducing a game to following a FAQ makes it even less of an interactive experience. I'm not saying you have to play 999 with a FAQ, but I've been told that's the best way to get the most out of it. And if that's so, I'll have no part in it, sorry.
I'm an edge case since I don't have as big a hard on for Zero Escape as some people do mainly because of the VN format and what comes with that in terms of limited interactivity and the way the game handles/controls. I'm aware of that and I hope other people are too when they read my opinions on VLR and the limited things I've heard about 999.
VLR took me 38 hours total game time to finish 100% even with skipping. I don't know how long 999 is, but if it's anywhere near that long and doesn't have the same UI affordances that VLR does, I'm not going to put myself through that.
The only thing I was trying to get across in my first post is to, "Yes, play VLR because it is good. But don't put yourself through 999 because you feel like it's required reading." The reason I say that is because the worst case scenario I can imagine is that someone plays the VLR demo, doesn't really like the controls or something, then is told they need to play 999 and then just dropping everything there because it's less intuitive of an experience than VLR. That's all, really. People can make up their own minds, but again, as someone who didn't play 999, I had an excellent time with VLR and didn't feel like I was missing anything of substance.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
999 is much shorter, perhaps 12-18 hours. And skipping is handled by fast-forwarding through text you've seen already. Which isn't quite as repetitive as it would be in VLR because VLR has more discrete choices and many many more endings.
SolarKnight
Member
Yeah, on a (mostly) perfect reread of 999 it took me 18 hours according to my 3DS. That was taking my time to read everything at least once.
The lack of flowchart is annoying, yes, but it's not that bad. The only thing about that that was starting to really annoy me was having to do the first puzzle at least 5 times.
The lack of flowchart is annoying, yes, but it's not that bad. The only thing about that that was starting to really annoy me was having to do the first puzzle at least 5 times.
Crash Station
Member
Then Zero Escape 3 is going to be maybe a 10th as effective.
SolarKnight
Member
Well, it's not as important but if I had the option of adding it to the game I certainly would. Although that overlooks those apparently minor choices you have to make through all of the playthrough that get you a bad ending if you don't answer correctly (you know what I mean), and also those extra pieces of info that you only get in certain rooms if you're going on the true ending path (can't remember if it was with the safe too).
PurpleMaster
Member
Yes, it was this way with safe too!
I kinda miss the long novel sections during escape rooms, they made me feel more attached to my companions!
I kinda miss the long novel sections during escape rooms, they made me feel more attached to my companions!
Yeah, that puzzle room is probably one of the worst. I haven't finished the game yet, but imo the demo isn't a good example.
SolarKnight
Member
Since there wasn't a 3DS demo I'm not sure, but was the escape room in that the Crew Quarters? I wasn't too fond of that one either, although I liked the way of getting some of the solutions.
There is a 3DS demo
SolarKnight
Member
Well, ok, an NA 3DS demo, and if there is one, there certainly didn't exist one last time I checked anyways.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I have two more endings to go, then I can start reading the spoiler thread...my doors of perception haven't been blown off yet but there's still time.
I gotta say, out if all the exceptional voice acting, I really enjoy hearing Tenmyouji talk. He just has that old, weathered 'don't give a fuck' voice down. I switched to Japanese voices out if curiosity, and their version just doesn't have the same quality at all.
I gotta say, out if all the exceptional voice acting, I really enjoy hearing Tenmyouji talk. He just has that old, weathered 'don't give a fuck' voice down. I switched to Japanese voices out if curiosity, and their version just doesn't have the same quality at all.
The saddest loss, the one who knows not what he has missed
Maybe I'm just angry it took nearly 40 hours to complete VLR. So much sitting and reading. I enjoyed many a snack while playing.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Of course it is! It even says so in the flow! I'm an idiot, thanks!
PurpleMaster
Member
It's a bit strange, because you
supposedly get it very early on but you can use it near the end! If Dio's ending is your first one, you probably didn't even know about bomb passwords!
VLR is a Visual Novel. For the genre, 40 hours is hardly long. 999 is quite short in comparison.Maybe I'm just angry it took nearly 40 hours to complete VLR. So much sitting and reading. I enjoyed many a snack while playing.
Ever17, for example,
the ending alone is 12 hours of doing nothing but skip through the text.
Oh god. I doubt that even the most gripping story could keep me scrollin' for that long. You're kidding, right?