SpaceBridge
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You guys convinced me to try 999 again. But I'd rather play VLR, just cuz it seems more evolved with better presentation.
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Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward |OT| -- More Hours, More Persons, More Doors
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The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Eh, the story is good enough that I really feel playing through and experiencing 999 is important
grim-tales
Member
My copy of VLR has been delayed again til February, so I'll try and play 999 til then.
If I still havent got it by Feb 8 then... eh, I guess its been very popular, Amazon are having trouble getting a copy.
If I still havent got it by Feb 8 then... eh, I guess its been very popular, Amazon are having trouble getting a copy.
Done it. Last ending. I think. I'm too exhausted to go through the spoiler thread. I think I understand more or less everything. Incredible stuff.
For some reason I missed the dartboard score file on my first playthrough. Is there any chance I've missed anything because of this? I suppose if I was playing on Vita, I would have gotten Platinum, but is there any penalty on 3DS.
For some reason I missed the dartboard score file on my first playthrough. Is there any chance I've missed anything because of this? I suppose if I was playing on Vita, I would have gotten Platinum, but is there any penalty on 3DS.
I don't think it really counts against anything. You beat all the rooms on Hard and unlocked
the two End or Beginning paths
I sure did. Holy shit.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
And the endings just keep on comin'!
One complaint I have is that they should've featured a lot more hand-drawn characters in the cutscenes...sometimes the cg art looked terrible in stillframe and every time something hand drawn came up it looked so much nicer.
One complaint I have is that they should've featured a lot more hand-drawn characters in the cutscenes...sometimes the cg art looked terrible in stillframe and every time something hand drawn came up it looked so much nicer.
LightofRohan
Member
My gf just beat 999 and said she got a "bad ending". Does she have to beat it again? Is it worth it? Do you have to beat it multiple times? She seemed pretty disappointed by the ending (I bought it for her)
Well, if she wants to get the True ending, yeah, she has to start from the beginning but all the text she's already read is skippable.
It is highly recommended to get every ending in the game, though. The bad endings aren't required, but they help you put some loose ends into place.
It is highly recommended to get every ending in the game, though. The bad endings aren't required, but they help you put some loose ends into place.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yes. She should keep playing, and she'll probably end up enjoying it. 999's endings aren't like other games; the whole point is that you play it over and over and make different choices each time.
She can skip text she's already read to speed things up.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Yep, in a way think of those other endings as chapter ends almost.
Crash Station
Member
She didn't beat it.
SpaceBridge
Member
Still trudging my way through 999. Finished the
puzzle room. Still not feeling the game. Whats wrong with me?
medical room with the mannequins
LightofRohan
Member
Awesome thanks! Before I even told her, she started playing it again anyways... haha.
PurpleMaster
Member
That's the 999 effect. You're pissed by your first ending, but you'll eventually come back...
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
When it comes to atmosphere 999 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VLR.
Although of course the latter comes with a number of significant gameplay improvements (except for all the BLIP BLIP BLIP BLIP BLIP OPEN DOOR CLOSE DOOR OPEN DOOR CLOSE DOOR stupidity), I can't help but to pick 999 if a guy point a gun to my head and scream "CHOOSE!"
Although of course the latter comes with a number of significant gameplay improvements (except for all the BLIP BLIP BLIP BLIP BLIP OPEN DOOR CLOSE DOOR OPEN DOOR CLOSE DOOR stupidity), I can't help but to pick 999 if a guy point a gun to my head and scream "CHOOSE!"
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Hmm, 999 had Snake and a much better atmosphere, but it's held back by its superfluous prose and bad endings that are, well, bad (axe ending aside).
VLR on the other hand, has K and Tenmyouji as well as at least one awesome twist per ending to keep you playing. It's not without its problems though; it drags quite a bit at times and some of the later developments make you scratch your head in bewilderment, but it's altogether a better-written game (which is what matter most, isn't it?).
Plus VLR has a good deal more replay value with its flow chart system and 24 endings, meaning you get more bang for your buck.
VLR on the other hand, has K and Tenmyouji as well as at least one awesome twist per ending to keep you playing. It's not without its problems though; it drags quite a bit at times and some of the later developments make you scratch your head in bewilderment, but it's altogether a better-written game (which is what matter most, isn't it?).
Plus VLR has a good deal more replay value with its flow chart system and 24 endings, meaning you get more bang for your buck.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Well, the True End of 999 really tug at my heartstrings. Like, tugging it real bad.
In the end I prefer that kind of sensation even when compared to gameplay improvements like replay value, more ending, etc etc.
I don't know, I mean, it shocked me a couple of times but the only times VLR ever gave me that kind of feeling was when
and when
and when we see
.
I guess I am just really weak for stuff like that, hahaha.
In the end I prefer that kind of sensation even when compared to gameplay improvements like replay value, more ending, etc etc.
I don't know, I mean, it shocked me a couple of times but the only times VLR ever gave me that kind of feeling was when
Junpei cried in front of hologram Akane
Junpei stated with bitterness that Akane has changed
Young Akane
I guess I am just really weak for stuff like that, hahaha.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
999 is a bit better simply by being the first one, and so the ending was that much more powerful. VLR is in many ways the better game, but those who go into it from 999 are already aware of the kinds of things the writers might consider that violate normal conceptions.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I'm just let down that they didn't explain Quark's ridiculous hat.
SolarKnight
Member
Yes they did. Check the gold files.
Blue Submarine No. 6
Member
Whew! I just finished VLR! I loved 999 when I played it back in October thanks to the LTTP thread that was running back then, but put off starting Virtue's Last Reward until I had played through P4G, because I was afraid I'd burn out on the Zero Escape gameplay before finishing it otherwise... Now, in retrospect, I'm glad I got to play it relatively close to 999 and think I'll play them back to back on the next play through... There are so many awesome reveals in this game! I loved it!! Oh, and it's my first Platinum Trophy. Ever.
... but the last line was a long one! Endings
that tease and reveal and stretch my poor brain! Wow! Just a great game...
I still have to finish reading through all the gold files, but I'm too burnt to do that tonight... other than that I think I've covered everything and filled out the flow chart...
Now, if you'll excuse me, I want to go watch 12 Monkeys...
... but the last line was a long one! Endings
or Beginnings?
I still have to finish reading through all the gold files, but I'm too burnt to do that tonight... other than that I think I've covered everything and filled out the flow chart...
Now, if you'll excuse me, I want to go watch 12 Monkeys...
PurpleMaster
Member
It automatically stops when you reach something you haven't read, even if it's a tiny bit of text!
Great. Thanks man. It started flying through text so fast I was scared I was missing stuff.
SteveWinwood
Member
I just hit a tenacious d reference.
Who localized this?
Who localized this?
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Erin Fitzgerald, the voice of Quark, is on a sream, in a donation drive for breast cancer.
She (along with other voice actors, including Kyle Hebert) are taking requests for donations.
She did a sexy conversation in Quark's voice already.
She (along with other voice actors, including Kyle Hebert) are taking requests for donations.
She did a sexy conversation in Quark's voice already.
SteveWinwood
Member
Close to end game spoilers:
In the director's office Sigma has the slingshot and Quark asks what ammo he's going to use. He says I'll use mind bullets. The response is "That's telekinesis Sigma."
Lee Chaolan
Member
Lee Chaolan
Member
There are almost 5 times as many endings, or "End" paths in VLR compared to 999. However, many of them can be skipped to rather quickly.
I know 999 took me longer than 10 hours, I just took my time with it.
Sure, many prefer 999 to VLR. It's definitely self containing enough if that's all you want to play for now.
Do you actually have to get all endings in VLR to unlock a true ending or something? Looking at HLTB the average time for beating 999 is around 8 hours while it is over 30 for VLR. I assume in 999's case that's only the time it takes to reach one ending whereas in VLR's case it equals the time of getting all endings.
PurpleMaster
Member
Let's put it like this: half of the endings are bad ones, which aren't necessary for game's completion (except one), while the other half is necessary.
Remind that the game has a jumping feature that lets you jump wherever you've already been. This way, doing certain bad ends just takes 5-10 minutes!
BTW, yes, both game are self-contained, but there are many links.
Start with 999. If you like it, just buy the sequel. Easy!
SolarKnight
Member
Well, there's the anime promo for that.
Shit man. I have theories:
First of all I'm basically nowhere in this game. I've gotten to the "to be continued" on the far left of the flow chart. I'm now right at the first split of the middle line of the flow chart, on the left side. I met
First of all I'm basically nowhere in this game. I've gotten to the "to be continued" on the far left of the flow chart. I'm now right at the first split of the middle line of the flow chart, on the left side. I met
one of the robot dudes talking about how their bodies relate to the central processors or something, about how realistic they can make those robots.
I'm thinking "what if one or more of the characters was a robot all along and didn't tell anyone? Or didn't know themselves?" Anyway, before the "to be continued" I of course found pretty much every character except Phi and Sigma dead. I also noticed in the quick grey flashbacks how it looked like some (or all?) of them killed themselves. In my current path I just got to the point where Quark tried to do the same after collapsing, talking about how he needs to escape his body.
I'm thinking that all has something to do with the robots. Maybe whatever they're calling "Radical-6" caused Quark to know something. That's about as much as I can theorize right now.
I'm thinking "what if one or more of the characters was a robot all along and didn't tell anyone? Or didn't know themselves?" Anyway, before the "to be continued" I of course found pretty much every character except Phi and Sigma dead. I also noticed in the quick grey flashbacks how it looked like some (or all?) of them killed themselves. In my current path I just got to the point where Quark tried to do the same after collapsing, talking about how he needs to escape his body.
I'm thinking that all has something to do with the robots. Maybe whatever they're calling "Radical-6" caused Quark to know something. That's about as much as I can theorize right now.
PurpleMaster
Member
Hohoho, players' theories!
Amusing!
Amusing!
SolarKnight
Member
read the Gold files
Hohoho, players' theories!
Amusing!
indeed, whatever they think is WRONG
grim-tales
Member
Amazon say its in stock now, should hopefully ship on Monday
Just hook it to my veins!
Just hook it to my veins!
SolarKnight
Member
No, you're meant to go back to them when you get more info from other routes. Bad endings will tell you they're that by saying "Game Over".
Not necessarily. You just don't have enough information to progress right now. Come back when you've learned something pertinent to what happened in the run-up to the "to be continued".
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I'm shocked that the voice actor who played Dio also played the 'book' in Nier. He can do an amazing James Mason-esque British accent...
So after 22 hours I finally got a proper ending D: as in, one that fills in a question mark on the save screen and has a credits roll.
It was the Dio end. Finally the game is starting to get interesting! It took long enough... I mean I have been enjoying the game a lot, but it's been pretty slow in general. 999 was a lot more consistently exciting.
Regardless, I look forward to getting more proper endings! Are they all pretty great?
And do they all kind of start coming all at once? Because at 22 hrs in and only one proper ending, I feel like things should wrap up fairly soon, but there's still so much more left to do.
Going to start the middle branch now.
It was the Dio end. Finally the game is starting to get interesting! It took long enough... I mean I have been enjoying the game a lot, but it's been pretty slow in general. 999 was a lot more consistently exciting.
Regardless, I look forward to getting more proper endings! Are they all pretty great?
And do they all kind of start coming all at once? Because at 22 hrs in and only one proper ending, I feel like things should wrap up fairly soon, but there's still so much more left to do.
Going to start the middle branch now.
milkham
Member
Dio ending was my first as well, and I think I ended around 34 or 35 hours