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[BadAss2961]

But this is the precursor to Justice League

I know. I was just pointing out that the title is a bit give and take.

I'm a little disappointed they had to include Batman and Superman in the title, but i'll get over that.

For those complaining about Batmans' name being first, it just rolls of the tongue better than Superman v Batman. This is still mostly Superman's movie with his characters.

 

[Mariolee]

Even then, you'd need to have the words "Batman" and "Superman" in the title.

Those two names on the same marquee guarantee a box office bump. It's irrefutable.

That's a dumb name to someone who has no previous historical comic book attachment. Sounds like a 1940s traveling circus.

Fine.

BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN: WORLD'S FINEST

Dawn of Justice sounds like the Captain America subtitle that no one actually says, except worse.

Pfft, a title without "Batman" or "justice" in it? How the hell do you market that?!

I know you're joking, but fucking look at Guardians of the Galaxy. They didn't shoe-horn Iron Man into it and say "Iron Man and the Guardians of the Galaxy". I know Marvel and DC are in different situations right now though.

Justice League: The Worlds Finest

Will be a great title. Agreed.

Eh, I don't know about calling it Justice League, but then again I have no idea what the movie is about.

It's a small thing, but seems like such an easy one. I refuse to believe that World's Finest wasn't at least in the running for the title.

 

[Maninthemirror]

I think the subtitle is fine. The problem is the Batman v Superman part.

Man of Steel 2: Dawn of Justice

Not the greatest title but would have been better than what we got.

If the movie is based off of Miller's Returns book then Batman would be as big of a focus as Superman. If you have read it you would know why I am saying that.

 

[SoulPlaya]

Not really.

Captain America vs Red Skull : Avengers Begins

That would be bad.

If Dawn of Justice is successful are they going to play safe again and call the sequel Batman v Superman : The Justice League.

Typical WB not getting it. The film will do well on merit and solid marketing. They don't need such a lame title.

Ca vs RS makes no sense. One's a villain. There's no need to identify that they'll fight. Batman fighting Superman is a marquee moment on screen, and they want to highlight that.

And the sequel will be called Justice League.

 

[KalBalboa]

I think the subtitle is fine. The problem is the Batman v Superman part.

That's what is going to get casual movie goers into seeing this movie, though.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Batman/Superman not being the thing is the REAL problem with the title, anyway

well, besides the whole "Batman just stole Supes movie" thing

 

[G-Fex]

superman not getting anymore numbered entries since the 80's

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Yeah at least you're not this dude that was so sure it was going to be called World's Finest.

Find the more recent posts where I admit a) I was bullshitting past a certain point b) I know it's not gonna be called world's finest c) It doesn't matter either way.

I'll help - you already quoted the first one of those.

Also - thanks to NOBODY for checking on my health after this announcement. Not a single ONE of you was worried that I'd had some sort of heart attack or aneurysm. Not a single private message like "you okay?" or "You need a hug?" or "lol asshole."

I'm kinda hurt, you guys.

 

[Jarmel]

Sure it is.

Now.

Dark Knight was well known before the Nolan movies. Now if they had named it something like The World's Greatest Detective, you might have a point.

 

[Verendus]

Man, some of you just bitch far too much.

Everyone has been calling it Batman vs. Superman since the initial announcement so the title pretty much being the same is not that surprising. It makes sense too from a marketing standpoint as it'll help them generate interest for the main pitch of the movie. It's not like people will go around saying the full title including the subtitle like idiots. Everyone is basically going to call it Batman vs. Superman. Also, World's Finest is a pretty crappy title too from a general standpoint. The general audience isn't going to react better to that than Batman vs. Superman. The latter title works better in that respect.

Not to mention, since when have these comic book movies had any particularly good titles outside of The Dark Knight?

Every one of them is either X-Men, or Iron Man, or Thor, or Batman Begins (this title only sounds less ridiculous now because the movie was actually good), or Avengers? Most of these titles are uninspired crap. Batman vs. Superman following that tradition isn't exactly alarming.

Seriously, the next big comic book movie is called 'Avengers: Age of Ultron'. And don't one of you bloody comic nerds actually try and argue that's somehow a good title because it's just as shitty as most of these.

 

[SoulPlaya]

Fine.

BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN: WORLD'S FINEST.

But at that point, it would make no difference. Everyone would call it Batman vs. Superman, no matter what the subtitle.

 

[KalBalboa]

Fine.

BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN: WORLD'S FINEST

That was always my assumed title.

 

[Dragonborn]

So Batman and Superman are going to fight each other? I really hate the use of "versus". Makes it feel cheap, reminds me of all those bad horror movies (AVP, Freddy vs. Jason). If they really wanted both names on there they could have just gone with something like Batman-Superman, or Batman/Superman. Or just choose the perfect title: World's Finest, maybe with Batman/Superman in the subtitle. I don't know, not a fan.

 

[kurahador]

Poor Supes, his family "not an S" name is being absorbed by Batman logo.
In his own sequel too.

 

[Lionel Mandrake]

Sure it is.

Now.



You're tiring me out with these mental gymnastics breh. But keep defending corporate conservatism and risk aversion.

What the fuck? Are you saying they should go with something like World's Finest BECAUSE it's a bad idea?

 

[DaveH]

I disappointed that Batman gets top billing and that the title is clunky, but now that they've officially made this a "versus" film, I'm hoping it delivers on that in a meaningful way.

"Dawn of Justice" is a clear Justice League setup which also diminishes Superman (he's sandwiched between Batman and the League in the title) but I'm not going to read too much into that.

Titles are driven by marketing. That's why they're so readily changed in foreign markets. I can't fault the WB for leading with their most successful property in recent history and ending on the IP they intend to setup, even if at the expense of Superman's pride.

...

That's my rational response. As a Superman fan, I'm still a little miffed.

 

[BLACKLAC]

Sounds like a video game.

Thought this was in the wrong section after reading the title.

Seriously, the next big comic book movie is called 'Avengers: Age of Ultron'. And don't one of you bloody comic nerds actually try and argue that's somehow a good title because it's just as shitty as most of these.

Avengers: Age of Ultron is a good title, a better title.

 

[Jarmel]

If the movie is based off of Miller's Returns book then Batman would be as big of a focus as Superman. If you have read it you would know why I am saying that.

That's what is going to get casual movie goers into seeing this movie, though.

I'm just talking only in regards to the flow and feeling of the title. For marketing purposes, this is a shitload better than MoS2.

Batman brings in dat paper.

 

[Maninthemirror]

So Batman and Superman are going to fight each other? I really hate the use of "versus". Makes it feel cheap, reminds me of all those bad horror movies (AVP, Freddy vs. Jason). If they really wanted both names on there they could have just gone with something like Batman-Superman, or Batman/Superman. Or just choose the perfect title: World's Finest, maybe with Batman/Superman in the subtitle. I don't know, not a fan.

If you have read Miller's comic, that is what will happen. It portrays the idea of the world where the ideologies of Superman and Batman clash and result in what will be a collaboration in the future

 

[Kouichi]

But at that point, it would make no difference. Everyone would call it Batman vs. Superman, no matter what the subtitle.

And people would complain just as much as they are now.

 

[Brakke]

So is Hammurabi going to make an appearance or what.

 

[shira]

And don't one of you bloody comic nerds actually try and argue [blahblahbalh]

/thread

well played

 

[G-Fex]

Find the more recent posts where I admit a) I was bullshitting b) I know it's not gonna be called world's finest c) It doesn't matter either way.

I'll help - you already quoted the first one of those.

Also - thanks to NOBODY for checking on my health after this announcement. Not a single ONE of you was worried that I'd had some sort of heart attack or aneurysm. Not a single private message like "you okay?" or "You need a hug?" or "lol asshole."

I'm kinda hurt, you guys.

BOBBY RESPOND. BOBBY? BOBBY BOBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYY

 

[ThatObviousUser]

What the fuck? Are you saying they should go with something like World's Finest BECAUSE it's a bad idea?

How did you get that?

The only point I'm making is that the superhero's name doesn't have to be spelled out in the title of the movie.

Well, I guess the other point I'm making is that "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" is a terrible title in general.

 

[Bold One]

I'm saying it's the same approach, and saying "Marvel would never be that daft" is silly when they've done the same thing.

People will continue to split hairs and do whatever mental gymnastics they need to justify a fanboy war about this title, though, so it's not worth losing sleep on it.

leaving all fanboyism aside and without resulting to whatabouteries, The First Avenger was a more poignant title for The Captain America, I just think the Batman- Superman title could have been much much better

 

[RyanDG]

Can't wait for the sequel:

 

[sixteen-bit]

Batman bin Suparman cameo pls

 

[monome]

Terribad.

Not versus.
Not Justice League.

Stuck between two chairs.

Can t wait for the hardcore porn spin off.

 

[KalBalboa]

I'm just talking only in regards to the flow and feeling of the title. For marketing purposes, this is a shitload better than MoS2.

Batman brings in dat paper.

I also think that there was never really a "Man of Steel 2" vibe for this movie, truthfully. I mean, it only makes sense to get to the teamup/crossover stuff people are clearly hungry for and not just make this "Superman 2" again, especially if there's going to be an expanding universe.

They were always going to have the words "Batman" and "Superman" in this title. Like you said- it's guaranteed money on the table.

leaving all fanboyism aside and without resulting to whatabouteries, The First Avenger was a more poignant title for The Captain America, I just think the title could have been much much better

That's fair. I guess we'll have to see how large a role the Justice League buildup plays in this.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

If you're a Superman fan you're always shit out of luck it seems these days.

yeah. I read the story at Yahoo this morning, I come to the forum and it's all doom and gloom. the title is fine i'm just really worried that Superman won't be the main character in his own movie, that would really break my heart because I felt that MoS really nailed Superman/Clark. :/

 

[Hot Coldman]

Seriously, the next big comic book movie is called 'Avengers: Age of Ultron'. And don't one of you bloody comic nerds actually try and argue that's somehow a good title because it's just as shitty as most of these.

it's actually a lot fucking worse, considering the material it's evoking

 

[G-Fex]

Can't wait for the sequel:

That logo was always ugly

not 1/10th as slick as the Adam West Batman logo.

Batman bin Suparman cameo pls

I don't see why they wouldn't. It's not like he'd say no

 

[rokero]

it's clear this is no longer Man of Steel 2, and I'm ok with that I'm sure there'll be a MOS sequel in the future

 

[Mariolee]

But at that point, it would make no difference. Everyone would call it Batman vs. Superman, no matter what the subtitle.

Sure, but it's just a little thing. Dawn of Justice just sounds like fan fiction or some sequel to Injustice: Gods Among Us. World's Finest brings back memories of the kickass comics. Naming it Dawn of Justice effectively no longer makes this Man of Steel 2, but a Justice League prequel just like Iron Man 2 (which was the worst Marvel film to date).

Again, it's a small thing, but it feels like it says a lot.

That was always my assumed title.

And for good reason.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

BOBBY RESPOND. BOBBY? BOBBY BOBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYY

lol asshole

 

[KissVibes]

The Justice League movie also has a title: Batman: League of Justice

Wonder Woman does too. Batman & Wonder Woman: Island of Amazons

 

[Grym]

I get they wanted to use "Batman" and "Superman" in the title to help sell tickets. I just don't think it is necessary

I would have much preferred:

<LOGO>
Dawn of Justice

everyone in the world gets what the logo is. No need to make the title clunky.

 

[Volimar]

 

[jelly]

Its not going to be called Justice league because Justice league is not the focus. The dawn of Justice means just that, the beginning of a group of people which will be eventually called justice league in subsequent movies. its not that hard to comprehend

There is no reason for that comment to be directed at me based on my post.

I know Dawn of Justice makes sense for this film.

 

[Lionel Mandrake]

How did you get that?

The only point I'm making is that the superhero's name doesn't have to be spelled out in the title of the movie.

Well, I guess the other point I'm making is that "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" is a terrible title in general.

I got that because you're saying the title is safe and avoids risk, and therefore is bad. That makes absolutely no sense to me. It's clear that "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" would be more successful financially then the same movie titled "World's Finest." Therefore, WB was in the right for going with it over the alternative.

Whether there is a better title outside of these two is a whole different discussion.

 

[G-Fex]

Man, some of you just bitch far too much.

Everyone has been calling it Batman vs. Superman since the initial announcement so the title pretty much being the same is not that surprising. It makes sense too from a marketing standpoint as it'll help them generate interest for the main pitch of the movie. It's not like people will go around saying the full title including the subtitle like idiots. Everyone is basically going to call it Batman vs. Superman. Also, World's Finest is a pretty crappy title too from a general standpoint. The general audience isn't going to react better to that than Batman vs. Superman. The latter title works better in that respect.

Not to mention, since when have these comic book movies had any particularly good titles outside of The Dark Knight?

Every one of them is either X-Men, or Iron Man, or Thor, or Batman Begins (this title only sounds less ridiculous now because the movie was actually good), or Avengers? Most of these titles are uninspired crap. Batman vs. Superman following that tradition isn't exactly alarming.

Seriously, the next big comic book movie is called 'Avengers: Age of Ultron'. And don't one of you bloody comic nerds actually try and argue that's somehow a good title because it's just as shitty as most of these.

Even the DC comics wouldn't go with something like Batman v. Superman. That's why they came up with titles for things; World's Finest, Brave and The Bold, etc.

Course there was comics like Batman and Spider-man, but it wasn't Batman vs. Spider-man.

It's easy to see why they picked this name, the title itself is bound to attract a HUGE amount of consumer interest. It's a super easy and super nifty title for advertising that gets it's point across to everybody.

And it'll give IGN, and a bunch of other websites and tv shows reasons to do a "Who's better/Who'd win in a fight? Batman or Superman?"

it's pretty obvious.

 

[munchie64]

What an uninspiring title. Hopefully episode 7 gets a good one, because movie titles have been disappointing me lately.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Fine.

BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN: WORLD'S FINEST

Dawn of Justice sounds like the Captain America subtitle that no one actually says, except worse.



I know you're joking, but fucking look at Guardians of the Galaxy. They didn't shoe-horn Iron Man into it and say "Iron Man and the Guardians of the Galaxy". I know Marvel and DC are in different situations right now though.



Eh, I don't know about calling it Justice League, but then again I have no idea what the movie is about.

It's a small thing, but seems like such an easy one. I refuse to believe that World's Finest wasn't at least in the running for the title.

World's Finest harkens back to some silver age shit where Batman and Superman were just good ol' chums beating up on nazis and Japanese soldiers together while asking kids to save bottle caps for the war effort. This movie is taking its queue from the Dark Knight Returns, a watershed comic that sort of flushed all of that down the toilet and presented a much darker, more adversarial relationship between Batman and Superman. It doesn't make sense to name it that.

 

[Jarmel]

Title should have been:

Batman v Superman v Wonder Woman: Dawn of Justice

Get some of that female attention.

 

[Mengy]

So can anyone tell me why we couldn't just get a Man of Steel 2 with a small cameo of Batman in it with it leading up to the movie called "Dawn of Justice" or "World's Finest" instead? I want my full on Man of Steel sequel with Braniac

Because DC doesn't want to wait that long. They are rushing things, pure and simple, so they will smash a half dozen heroes and villains into one premature movie and try to make it all work. Hopefully they can pull it off, but after Man of Steel I have my doubts.

That title....well, it could have been worse I suppose.

 

[Verendus]

it's actually a lot fucking worse, considering the material it's evoking

Maybe it is, but the general point was that it's a clunky and generic title like most of these comic book movies. People are who going to watch that are just going to refer to it as Avengers 2. That's it.

 

[G-Fex]

lol asshole

<3 you too bro

 

[Jarmel]

What an uninspiring title. Hopefully episode 7 gets a good one, because movie titles have been disappointing me lately.

JJ's last film's title was

Star Trek Into Darkness

Don't get your hopes up.

 

[Ovid]

Sounds like the title of a bad Batman/Superman video game.

It does.

 

[Doctor Decimate]

it's not a great title. i'd say the idea of an eventual Justice League setup isn't something that needs to be in the title, but i dunno. i'm constantly surprised at how much people need things spelled out, so maybe it makes sense and i can't think of another way to put it that sounds any better. assuming that's something that NEEDS to be there, i think the "v" instead of "vs." is what bothers me. not only because it's worse, but because it seems like an intentional joke due to "justice" and then the justice system and courts. maybe i'm overthinking it.