Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Titled

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So it's not actually Man of Steel 2. It's basically Justice League the Prequel.
 
So can anyone tell me why we couldn't just get a Man of Steel 2 with a small cameo of Batman in it with it leading up to the movie called "Dawn of Justice" or "World's Finest" instead? I want my full on Man of Steel sequel with Braniac
 
F-ing Batman before Superman in the title... in what was still supposed to be a Supes film/sequel if you go by Snyder's speech last comic con lol I'll be shocked if Cavill even has more screen time than Affleck at this point. That actually makes me hate the title more than the Justice part. Not shocked by them adding that in there. I don't even care if it flows better, nothing at all so far makes this feel like a Superman sequel.



At least Batman's suit looks great and I really like the logo... wonder what they did to Supes suit since it was said to be modded some. Who cares though, unless it's Batman :P
 
SomewhatGroovy said:
Title is just a precursor to Avengers money. No surprise
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Andrex said:
"Injustice: Gods Among Us" is a better title than "Dawn of Justice" and that's saying a lot.
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I wonder how they got away with calling the game that, anyway? Gaf told me that general audiences are stupid and need to have the characters names in the title cause they can't possibly glean what something about from, say, a trailer or a poster or word of mouth or a commercial or...
 
The thing that bothers me is the v put the freaking s in there and just say VS. Unless the title is actually BATMAN V : superman dawn of justice
 
Slate Soda said:
Did they give Batman a fat emblem just so they could smush the Superman emblem inside?
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You know it. The moment they decided on the fat Superman symbol they knew they were doom, they had to make a fat Batman symbol, and in order to justify that, they have to incorporate the Dark Knight Return story into the movie. One domino after another..

It could have been something like this.

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So much better.
 
I will admit, I didn't actually expect them to use Batman v Superman in the actual damn title.

Not to mention throwing that Justice reference in there, they must really want that Avengers money.
 
ReiGun said:
I wonder how they got away with calling the game that, anyway? Gaf told me that general audiences are stupid and need to have the characters names in the title cause they can't possible glean what something about from, say, a trailer or a poster or word of mouth or a commercial, or...
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Who says that? I think the general consensus is that the title largely won't matter because the logo and commercials just need to show batman and superman and that will tell the audiences all they need to know. Nobody is going to give a shit about the title or subtitle at the end of the day. I personally think it sounds sorta cheesy but it fits with the DC universe. It sounds like something that an Alex Ross graphic novel would be called.
 
SilentSoldier said:
So can anyone tell me why we couldn't just get a Man of Steel 2 with a small cameo of Batman in it with it leading up to the movie called "Dawn of Justice" or "World's Finest" instead? I want my full on Man of Steel sequel with Braniac
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If you're a Superman fan you're always shit out of luck it seems these days.
 
that is the dumbest title they could have chosen

heck even the cartoon had cool titles like: The Bold and the Brave

and that Logo... BARF
 
Andrex said:
It'd show some fucking balls at least, like Nolan had when he made the first Batman movie without "Batman" in the title. WB are playing it too safe and it shows.

(I don't particularly care for "World's Finest" as a title, either.)
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Yeah, it takes balls to use a shitty, money-losing title in-place of a serviceable one. The Dark Knight is at least synonymous with Batman in public perception.

Imagine this: Brian Williams is hosting NBC Nightly News and during the little entertainment section the story comes up that it's the 75th anniversary of Batman, so he opens the segment with "A big day for fans of the Dark Knight." People would know, "Oh, Batman." Doesn't matter if they've ever held a comic in their life.

Let's say a similar scenario happens where Brian Williams has to talk about Batman and Superman as a duo. He opens with "And news today for the World's Finest..." People would be like, ".... The... NYPD?"

WB is pumping millions of dollars into this new franchise. They need as much of the general audience as they can get. They're not going to make the title something vague and uninteresting just to appease some guys on the internet.
 
ReiGun said:
I wonder how they got away with calling the game that, anyway? Gaf told me that general audiences are stupid and need to have the characters names in the title cause they can't possibly glean what something about from, say, a trailer or a poster or word of mouth or a commercial or...
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Different audiences. Video games and movies have different audiences. Yes, with large overlap, but still different that requires different marketing.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Who says that? I think the general consensus is that the title largely won't matter because the logo and commercials just need to show batman and superman and that will tell the audiences all they need to know.
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The title also does this without any commercials or logos.

World's Finest is an awesome name, but nobody here can deny that this title is better for marketing purposes.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Who says that? I think the general consensus is that the title largely won't matter because the logo and commercials just need to show batman and superman and that will tell the audiences all they need to know. Nobody is going to give a shit about the title or subtitle at the end of the day. I personally think it sounds sorta cheesy but it fits with the DC universe. It sounds like something that an Alex Ross graphic novel would be called.
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There's been more than a few posters who believe Batman and Superman's names have to be in the title or people won't get what it's about. It was the main argument for why it can't be called "World's Finest."

Which I never expected it to be, mind you. But keeping the characters' names seems a bit much. "Dawn of Justice" works on its own just fine.

SoulPlaya said:
Different audiences. Video games and movies have different audiences. Yes, with large overlap, but still different that requires different marketing.
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I don't think they're so different that you need the characters' names in the title. Like can't just show someone a Superman logo overlayed on a Batman logo and not have them instantly get it. We're talking about the two most recognizable superheroes in the world, here.
 
Bold One said:
are you saying thats bad?
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It has the words Captain America in it, of course it's bad. Just like Batman and Superman, out of context, are stupid fucking names. Comic book movies sort of have this going against them. Or do people think Avengers Age of Ultron sounds "cool"?
 
This is unacceptable. I vow to never call it by that awful name. A punch in the gut to everyone on the internet that already decided a better title. When will movie studios realize comic book fans know more about marketing than they do?

When I go to buy tickets for the midnight showing, I'll ask for one ticket to "World's Finest". And when the box office person doesn't know what the hell I'm talking about, I'm going to stare them down until they either call a manager or realize that only an absolute dork would call a movie by a title they made up. My Superman shirt and Batman hat might also give a clue. ;)

"Was that guy for real," they'll ask themselves as I take my seat in the theater, hoping, praying, to see Superman destroy another city. And maybe, if we're lucky, with Batman's help this time!
 
Bold One said:
are you saying thats bad?
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I'm saying it's the same approach, and saying "Marvel would never be that daft" is silly when they've done the same thing.

People will continue to split hairs and do whatever mental gymnastics they need to justify a fanboy war about this title, though, so it's not worth losing sleep on it.
 
It's pretty obvious why they chose V as opposed to outright say VS.

VS sounds too 'combative', everyone knows (well, not everyone as apparent by the internet and some these posts) that this movie isn't really going to be about Batman fighting Superman, that's not really the plot. They will probably fight, like Thor fought Iron Man in the Avengers, but it will not be the central story.

V allows for them to imply that they will fight, but not state that the movie is about them fighting, a la Freddy vs Jason. The placement of Batman before Superman is a clearly an attempt to attract more people. As is the fact that they are not using 'World's Finest', because, surprise, not everyone reads the comics.

The title is indeed a little bulky, but it is a appropriate all things considered. Besides, Wonder Woman and Cyborg will probably play minor roles in the movie. And 'Dawn of Justice' pretty much says it all: this is a Batman AND Superman story about the beginning of the Justice League. They will just happen to fight once in the process.
 
Oh so that's why they made the bat logo so big this time. Had to find a way to fit the superman logo in there for the promos.


Edit; oh wow. Beaten
 
Why would they call this movie the Worlds Finest? Seriously...

First of all it doesn't even have the majority of the DC super heroes.
Secondly they will most likely call the Justice League movie the Worlds Finest, seeing as you know it will have the majority of the well known DC characters...

This movie so far has like 4 super heroes? Yeah Dawn of JUSTICE (TAKE A HINT PPL) is a great name, IMO.
 
Maninthemirror said:
I swear the hate for BvS is really good for the movie as the a lot of crow will be eaten when the movie is finally released
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Are you kidding? You underestimate fanboys' ability to use cognitive dissonance. This could be better than the Godfather, and they'll never admit it. They'll focus on how Batman's cape isn't long enough or something.
 
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