I agree. I was in that camp from the start. It's just very disingenuous of them to say "captured from" because they know 90% of the people watching are gonna read that as "real time gameplay amazing pre-order now."
Uncharted 4 runs at 1080p and targeting 60fps
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I agree. I was in that camp from the start. It's just very disingenuous of them to say "captured from" because they know 90% of the people watching are gonna read that as "real time gameplay amazing pre-order now."
dragonbane
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Foliage, characters, lighting and IQ are the main differences. I'm sure the same will apply here except that the characters likely will be on par ingame.
Yeah, hand animated. Better rigging and more bones in the face will automatically improve the results coming from TLoU.
Betta Lines
Member
The fly is brilliantly animated too.
And I like the way the loose ground deforms as he grabs his gun.
And I like the way the loose ground deforms as he grabs his gun.
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
That's impossibly awesome! Are naughty dog employees just wizards with magic spells that make video games?
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Betta Lines
Member
Would play the hell out of that!The Fly is the main villian.
I agree. The PS3 had a 192 GFLOP GPU, a measly 512 MB's of shared RAM, & the cell processor.
PS4 however, has a 1.84 TFLOP GPU, 8 GB's of GDDR5 RAM that's unified, & a 8-core Jaguar CPU. Just imagine what future games would look on it.
Though IMO, if the CPU inside the PS4 was a bit more stronger, then we would definitely see a lot of PS4 games in Native 1080p w/60 FPS.
Captain Pants
Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
Has anyone been able to read the text on the cage at the very end?
dragonbane
Member
Unless it specifically says this:
always go with in-engine first until confirmed otherwise.
Corpsepyre
Banned
Naughty Dog really are wizards at work. I have little doubt the final game will look just as amazing as this reveal. I wonder what SSM will do with the PS4.
"For we receive the due reward of our deeds"
GIANKRATOS
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For a second i forgot this is a videogame...
dragonbane
Member
Too bad Guerilla still needs to learn how to animate them. Last gen games such as Beyond and The Last of Us weren't as creepy as this dude once he starts talking. For real time the benchmark so far is probably Dark Sorcerer.I think this is the best example we have for real-time so far. ND no doubt got the better facial artist and given the more time, who knows. It will probably end up close enough put whats out to shame anyway.
Drake will be ashamed of his words and deeds.
Multiple times. Doesn't confirm anything unfortunately.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Well then holy hot buttered damn.
plasmawave
Banned
metareferential
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There's some clipping on Drake's arm at some point, that doesn't usually happen in an offline-rendered cutscene, right?
yeah lol, to bad it cant do animation. (I was joking about the individual grains of sand, it looks like dam CGI)
dragonbane
Member
It does. They don't use enhanced physics to render their cutscenes. So this is still affected by the limitations of their engine.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Well that clears that then. Where's the doubt now?
Betta Lines
Member
She later corrected herself and said 'in engine', hence the current discussion:
https://twitter.com/Corrinne/status/476236100789223425
metareferential
Member
Well at least we can know for sure that the assets used are exactly the same we'll see in the game (if this content makes it to the final game, that is).
Still, it's incredibly impressive. And the hq footage seems to also have some frame-drops here and there.
Maybe it's just me xD
it does; any scene is still limited by the engine's capabilities. Unless they try to keyframe every object/animation and try to be clever with angles etc and try to work around those things.
DemurOnion
Banned
Why would people ever doubt the best coders in gaming? Because they LIE. Kidding.
dragonbane
Member
This was already discussed many pages ago. Nothing really changed, since she later used in-engine again. Ingame is also not quite the same as real time. Those pre-rendered cutscenes still happen "ingame".
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Looks fucking amazing! I've not seen "real time" visuals like this on any system.
why does she say ''in 3D'' WHAT IS THIS 1995?
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Have Naughty Dog confirmed if the cut scenes will be realtime so no more video?
DemurOnion
Banned
SO basically with some extra tricks and not quite in-gameplay they have near 60FPS. It will probably be some tough optimization and code only an alien would want to handle but they can probably get that FPS up to 50-60 most of the time in real gameplay. I have faith.
dragonbane
Member
Likely video, considering The Last of Us Remastered will use 1080p60 pre-rendered videos. So this is not real time most likely. The Last of Us was unveiled in the exact same manner, with a pre-rendered cutscene.
Betta Lines
Member
Holy assumptions Batman
DemurOnion
Banned
Dude, it's ND. Their coders are insane.
E-Cat
Member
WTF, this looks so much better! omg
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Because there are some people saying that "captured from a PS4" means that they made some CG and then played the resulting video file on a PS4 and captured that.
Yes, there are people who actually think this. In this thread, in fact.
dragonbane
Member
Set pieces will put it to test. Even if this were real time graphics, there is less going on than in a tech demo lol
Yeah. Pretty sure this cutscene won't make it to the final game.
I mean, it's pretty easy to see the title refers to the old adage of "those who live by the sword, die by the sword." Drake has been running around being a sneak thief for almost his entire life. Did he not think there wouldn't be consequences for his actions? He's getting pulled into this one last adventure because something has gone wrong. What exactly? We gotta tune in and find out.
BulletTheory
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I swear I remember hearing somewhere that during crunch time on The Last of Us, everyone in the office would stand up and cheer whenever they managed to free up an extra 1kb of RAM or something ridiculous like that haha...
CadetMahoney
Member
ah, oh well.
dragonbane
Member
DemurOnion
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ND have never really lied to me before. Most of what they do is not hidden behind doublespeak and word games. Maybe a little but not much. They are pretty upfront with how things work that way. I still will believe they can hit that 50-60 target with near graphics like this. Less AA or something like that possibly.
No.. it looks not the intended mood / time of the day..
What's with the new fade "omg i want colors, what is this game with bluish night and this unsaturated bricks.. Eveyrhing should be a raimbow!"
if we were to input naughty dogs track record last gen and project it forward onto this gen, his assumption would be far more accurate than yours.
CyberPunked
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I think this is the best example we have for real-time so far. ND no doubt got the better facial artist and given the more time, who knows. It will probably end up close enough put whats out to shame anyway.
It wasn't real-time. None of Naughty Dog's cutscenes are.