Shovel Knight |OT| The 8-bit adventures of Butt Butt Goes to Europe & Australia
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Although there are thousands or replies to this thread. Just wanted to throw my two-cent in there about this game. HOLY FUCK.
I knew it was going to be good. I didn't Kickstart it but I have been following it since it was one of the only indie titles hitting the Wii U that seemed decent. I did however buy it on Steam in case people eventually modded it. But wow. I finished it last night whilst my girlfriend was away. Wow. Just wow.
I test games for a living currently. I get really bored of games easily and it has been a long time since a game has captivated me to play more. Persona 4 Golden being the last. But this game, I just couldn't stop playing. It reminded me so much of a much more simpler time in my life. Where I could play games all the time and not have to worry about anything.
It was a joy to play. I highly recommend it to anyone. In fact I have already convinced three people to purchase and play it. I commend the dudes at Yacht Club Games, you made a game that finally made me interested in playing them again. Thanks!
I knew it was going to be good. I didn't Kickstart it but I have been following it since it was one of the only indie titles hitting the Wii U that seemed decent. I did however buy it on Steam in case people eventually modded it. But wow. I finished it last night whilst my girlfriend was away. Wow. Just wow.
I test games for a living currently. I get really bored of games easily and it has been a long time since a game has captivated me to play more. Persona 4 Golden being the last. But this game, I just couldn't stop playing. It reminded me so much of a much more simpler time in my life. Where I could play games all the time and not have to worry about anything.
It was a joy to play. I highly recommend it to anyone. In fact I have already convinced three people to purchase and play it. I commend the dudes at Yacht Club Games, you made a game that finally made me interested in playing them again. Thanks!
Scooter155
Member
I don't think it makes it look worse, but bummer you guys don't like it!
I think these kinds of art styles totally can benefit from these effects.
For example, look at this comparison.
It's from an older version of the SweetFx thing I was doing, but it totally still applies. In the original, the green platform up top just has a weird color shift that when blown up like this doesn't really make any sense. But, with the CRT effect applied, you can see how it blends together and actually looks like a rounded edge, rather than just some weird color shift.
Similar stuff happens with Shovel Knights horns. You get the idea of what it's supposed to be, but it doesn't really look representative of it. With the CRT effect, theres a slight color shift to make it actually look like a little shine on the horn.
In the previously posted example that you guys were responding too, I think another great example are the yellow blocks you can shovel spike on to break.
It looks like a mish mash when it's regularly blown up, but using the CRT effect you get that great transitioning between the layers. Looking back at these I do actually need to lower the brigtness down a little because the colors are getting a bit shifted here, but I don't think it can be plainly said "It makes it worse."
Also just throwing this one in too, but I think it does wonders on the King Knight's throne! The arm rests little indented curves actually look like they make sense, and Shovel Knights horns are actually rounded out and smooth like they're supposed to be.
Basically, the CRT effect helps colors transition appropriately, and it helps round things which are made of squares actually look like round things, instead of mooshed together squares.
Whether you like it or not, I think there's some merit to the idea that it actually works with the art style in a similar way that older games used the CRT bleed to create nice looking blends. I dig it, you don't gotta, but I think there's some real genuine benefit to it.
Yeah, honestly, I'm glad for you that you like it and have the option to use that. I played Mega Man 4 on a CRT when I was... gosh, 7? 8? I have a fondness for that look too but I don't like it applied to Shovel Knight that way. I should mention I'm playing it on 3DS so a) the pixels are smaller and b) I get a pseudo CRT effect anyway just because of the quality of the 3DS screen. It appears that your filter just puts a subtle gray line around every pixel which isn't really an accurate CRT effect and makes the overall image a little muddier and darker.
Again though, different strokes for different folks, play on, my friend.
yes
3DS will still get the DLC to play through the entire game as King Knight, Plague Knight, and Specter Knight. Just like Steam and Wii U.
The 4 player battle mode is more like (I'm guessing) an 8-bit Smash Bros type thing and 3DS wont be getting that.
Wreck-It Ralph
Member
To be honest, I'm a bit disappointed by it. It's not bad... I just feel like they could've done more with this music. I look forward to seeing what OCRemix does with it.
Except Hyper Camelot. Hyper Camelot is great.
I really like Matsumae's Flying Machine arrangement.
TBH I prefer some of them to the original tracks.
I would swear on my life that Number 8 came straight of Double Dragon Neon.
Scooter155
Member
I love the 3DS version but I'm really bummed to miss out on the 4 player battle mode... sounds epic. I haven't street passed anyone yet but the battles seem... dumb. 5 second attempts to grab the gems? Weird. Clever, but weird.
There were rumors they're considering a cross buy promotion, any news on that?...
Ye the 3ds features didn't seem that interesting. Love the wiiu version and can't wait for the multiplayer update.
Scooter155
Member
This has been asked so many times but for people with both the 3DS and Wii U version, which do you prefer?
I have $21 in my eShop account and am leaning towards the Wii U version because I think the Wii U GamePad has a nicer feel to it and the d-pad is bigger ... but my poor 3DS has been collecting dust since I picked up the Wii U MK8 bundle since the end of May.
Decisions, decisions.
I have $21 in my eShop account and am leaning towards the Wii U version because I think the Wii U GamePad has a nicer feel to it and the d-pad is bigger ... but my poor 3DS has been collecting dust since I picked up the Wii U MK8 bundle since the end of May.
Decisions, decisions.
DashReindeer
Lead Community Manager, Outpost Games
Just beat it, I gotta say, I tend to dislike indie titles... this one was that rare exception, it was amazing! Really wish I could have posted to the 3DS Miiverse though :\
Edit: Nevermind, I've not posted to Miiverse on 3DS in so long I forgot how to do it, I was trying to do an AC screenshot ~_~
Which indie titles are you referencing? If you liked Shovel Knight, I can bet you dollars to donuts there are a ton of other indie titles that should similarly delight you.
Oh man, so I totally just realized something.
The game is always rendering at 400x240, and then scaling up appropriately. It explains why screenshots taken at 1080p always seem to look slightly blurred, and has those odd edges on it. I knew it looked off and now i finally understand why, and how to fix it.
So, I learned that the best way to play the game with those perfectly crisp, hard lined edges is to play at any multiple of 400x240.
For example,
I'm gonna give some comparison screenshots, of actually playing at what should be the specified res compared to the nearest common resolution.
1200x720
1280x720
There's a pretty huge difference in clarity between the two, and it seems like it would be best to play the game in a 720p, 900p, or 1440p display and scale it appropriately.
Here is the best way to display it perfectly on a 1080p display.
You have to click to view full size to appropriately see the difference.
1600x960
If anyone else wants to have perfect pixel scaling and has an Nvidia GPU, you can do it this way.
Nvidia Control Panel
Save and apply all of the above.
Now you can select that resolution, and play the game in borderless fullscreen. You'll get pixel perfect 1:1 scaling, and it'll look sharp, clean, and crisp.
The game is always rendering at 400x240, and then scaling up appropriately. It explains why screenshots taken at 1080p always seem to look slightly blurred, and has those odd edges on it. I knew it looked off and now i finally understand why, and how to fix it.
So, I learned that the best way to play the game with those perfectly crisp, hard lined edges is to play at any multiple of 400x240.
For example,
- 400x240
- 800x480
- 1200x720
- 1600x960
- 2000x1200
- 2400x1440
I'm gonna give some comparison screenshots, of actually playing at what should be the specified res compared to the nearest common resolution.
1200x720
1280x720
There's a pretty huge difference in clarity between the two, and it seems like it would be best to play the game in a 720p, 900p, or 1440p display and scale it appropriately.
Here is the best way to display it perfectly on a 1080p display.
You have to click to view full size to appropriately see the difference.
1600x960
If anyone else wants to have perfect pixel scaling and has an Nvidia GPU, you can do it this way.
Nvidia Control Panel
Adjust Desktop Size and Position
Scaling Mode: No Scaling, Perform scaling on: GPU
Change ResolutionCustomize
Create Custom Resolution
Horizontal Pixels: *Closest horizontal from list above, Vertical Pixels: *Closest example from list above*
Save and apply all of the above.
Now you can select that resolution, and play the game in borderless fullscreen. You'll get pixel perfect 1:1 scaling, and it'll look sharp, clean, and crisp.
I wish I had people to streetpass.
I love the graphic sharpness in the 3DS version personally.
Does anyone notice a framerate slowdown in the mole knight fight?
The rematch
Krustentier7
Banned
1. I don't see your point. When using the term "region free" I'm of course also referring to the eshop. I want every game from whatever region to be playable on every system. The 360 was generally region locked, but some games (I think most games, actually), both disc-based and digital, were playable on every system regardless of region - just like you said. Don't see what that has to do with me wanting the Wii U and 3DS to be region free.
2. What does Nintendo have to do with not having a European release? Yacht Club explicitly stated that they're still waiting for the translations (German, Spanish, British English perhaps, etc) to be completed. They're probably holding out on the European release because they believe not offering the game in multiple languages would affect sales (hint: it wouldn't).
hmmm.... 400x240?
400x240 is the 3DS's resolution which is 5:3 not 16:9
On the kickstarter page they said the PC is 408 x 225
Set up one of those Mac relay thingies for StreetPass.
(BTW, you might want to spoiler part of the second part of your post.)
Like I said, too much of a good apple to do that.
hmmm.... 400x240?
400x240 is the 3DS's resolution which is 5:3 not 16:9
On the kickstarter page they said the PC is 408 x 225
Both 408x225 and 400x240 seem to get displayed without scaling, hmm! This could be useful.
If you crop it though, it looks like the actual resolution it's rendered at is 400x224.
Oddly, rendering at 1632x900 still gives that blur, even though it's a multiple of 408x225, while 1600x960 does not give blur, being a multiple of 400x240
StrikerObi
Member
Wow at that massive list of cheat codes. That's crazy, and awesome. It's a shame you can only use one at a time though.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
A question already asked, but is their any visual differences between the 3DS and Wii U vers? Thinking about picking it up for 3DS.
The 3D looks awesome on the 3DS version. No idea about Wii U.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/game-of-the-month-june-2014/1100-6420886/
Shovel Knight wins Game of the Month from Gamespot. Pretty funny since it got one of its lower scores (7/10), from that outlet.
Shovel Knight wins Game of the Month from Gamespot. Pretty funny since it got one of its lower scores (7/10), from that outlet.
I'm really enjoying the stereoscopic 3D in the game. My only issue is that it's more comfortable for me to use a Pro Controller on my Wii U than it is to use a 3DS. If you have no problems playing 3DS, it's perfectly cool to get it.
dreamer3kx
Member
Just finished this up on PC.
70% item completion
165 deaths
8 hrs 1 minute
Give it 9/10.
70% item completion
165 deaths
8 hrs 1 minute
Give it 9/10.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Thanks for the replies picked up the 3DS vers mainly for portability. Just wanted to hear some input before I got it!
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Romanes Eunt Domus
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
Glad to hear I'm not the only one. I felt like some sort of philistine monster.
I have to agree. There are some really good tracks (Hyper Camelot, Matsumae's Flying Machine remix, Sub-atomic), but it doesn't really do as much with the chip music as I would have liked.
McKeeverFever
Banned
This is hands down my GOTY and one of the best games I have played in years. I usually hate 8 bit indie throwbacks because in my experience most of them are derivative however shovel knight takes its inspirations and makes them its own. It doesn't feel like a game I have played before as they have put some much original ideas into it. It feels familiar but new and fresh. I hope there is a sequel and I can't wait for the dlc.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Hmmm....ending spoiler alert:
But was he dreaming at the end?
MetalGuardian
Banned
I went from "Love this game!" to "FUCK THIS GAME" in a matter of days
I just bought SMTIV, Rayman 3D, and VVVVV on sale and I could give fuck all about playing them because all I wanna do is shovel. Thanks, YCG for bending my backlog over, spreading its Tinker wide and giving it the ol' Treasure Propeller.
What was I talking about again? No matter, back to New Game +!
EDIT:
Goddam right
I just bought SMTIV, Rayman 3D, and VVVVV on sale and I could give fuck all about playing them because all I wanna do is shovel. Thanks, YCG for bending my backlog over, spreading its Tinker wide and giving it the ol' Treasure Propeller.
What was I talking about again? No matter, back to New Game +!
this was a thinly veiled butt butt post
EDIT:
Goddam right
he was. That interpretation of the ending makes the whole rest of the game feel so much more profound, so that's what I'm going with until canonically disproven.
Dreaming in standard play through, real in NG+
Wreck-It Ralph
Member
Wreck-It Ralph
Member
Shield Knight has to be alive so we can play as her in Super Shovel Knight!
But of course
Butt really, you mean Shovel Knight 2
Butt really, you mean Shovel Knight 2
ToyMachine228
Member
Is there any word of this coming to any other platforms? I haven't followed it's development at all. If there were to be an Xbone version, I would be interested in waiting for that.
I think they said they were considering it, but no official news yet. Maybe we'll get news after they finish all the bonus content?
Just beat in NG+
. Pretty great game both times through, and I'll for sure go after some of the feats, but it feels like it's missing just a little something and that's keeping it from being an all-time great instead of just a really good video game. If they had doubled the levels and had more platforming focused "approach" levels (structured sorta similarly to the jewel levels where you have to use certain relics to proceed, maybe, but way longer) and then more combat oriented order of no quarter stages, I think that would have made it a lot better, since both the platforming and combat are satisfying but I never felt like I got enough of either.
And now I'm off to go start my third playthrough
They've mentioned they're looking to bring it to other platforms, and I'd imagine it'll be on PS4 and Xbone eventually, but who knows when
That boss rush was one of the most brutal things I've had to do in a while, especially because I wasted one of my healing ichors on a run that looked promising but then I totally fell apart
And now I'm off to go start my third playthrough
They've mentioned they're looking to bring it to other platforms, and I'd imagine it'll be on PS4 and Xbone eventually, but who knows when
Which (japanese) game would that be a reskin of?
Yeah, they're significantly harder than the first five, as are the final levels in general, which I've been finding rage inducing. They remind me of the worst parts of early Mega Man Wily stages.
I just finished Polar Knight's stage, and man was his fight rough, he was the first boss to kill me. Can any other boss
Now to decide who to take on next. Both Tinker Knight and Propeller Knight sound cool.
Which level did you choose as your fifth, and are you playing without checkpoints? I feel like the game is fairly challenging, not Zelda 2/Castlevania levels, but it's still tough.
kill you in one hit?
Which level did you choose as your fifth, and are you playing without checkpoints? I feel like the game is fairly challenging, not Zelda 2/Castlevania levels, but it's still tough.
Clockwork Tower is fairly easy, Stranded Ship is reasonable but somewhat tricky and the Airship is considered the hardest order of no quarter stage by the greater consensus.
Some people have gotten enraged by the tower of fate though. Be a bit wary.