Motiga announces Gigantic. 3rd person MOBA. Seriously take a look
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Leafhopper
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No, I think that post was just meant to point out some recent games with a bright, colorful aesthetic reminiscent of the CalArts style in 3D.
It's not really about grinding, though? Not on a micro-scale, anyway. Most games in the genre shift focus from killing creeps to teamfights as the match progresses.
At the rate that MOBAs are proliferating, there will soon be a MOBA for every single gamer in the world. At this rate, MOBAs may overtake atoms or Linux distributions for 'things there are the most of out there'.
Good luck to them, but that market is already SO saturated, and everyone who wants to play a MOBA is already playing one of the big two anyway.
Good luck to them, but that market is already SO saturated, and everyone who wants to play a MOBA is already playing one of the big two anyway.
You think League of Legends is going to "crash and burn?"
Leafhopper
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Oh, if that's the case then yeah.
You swapped the name of the second with the third.
Interfectum
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I'll never get the mindset where people just want a genre to stop moving forward simply because it has some big hits.
I don't know why people are complaining. There aren't a lot of 3rd person MOBAs on the market.
I'm surprised no one is making a character action style moba-like game yet. Keep the 5v5 kill the base format while adding a big focus on mobility, counters/parries, cancels, and short but diverse combos.
Basically, make complex Dynasty Warriors with 5v5.
I'm surprised no one is making a character action style moba-like game yet. Keep the 5v5 kill the base format while adding a big focus on mobility, counters/parries, cancels, and short but diverse combos.
Basically, make complex Dynasty Warriors with 5v5.
ahem....
Points to whoever can guess what pic is from what game
Gigantic, Sunset Overdrive, Fortnite, Battleborn, Arena of Fate
Those look like completely different art styles to me. What is your point?
dark_inferno
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This looks really really good.
I also dig the "Have a big creature as ancient that fights back". If its playable it would add a lot of depth and fun to the game.
I also dig the "Have a big creature as ancient that fights back". If its playable it would add a lot of depth and fun to the game.
shacklesmcgee
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Yes sir
Turin Turambar
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Yep, it looks good, but at the same time, the hyper stylized colorful 3d cartoon style used for a moba... is just like Battleborn! Battleborn vs Gigantic lol.
rakkadakka
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Smite is supposedly doing alright. Hi-Rez say it has fairly consistent growth, and it's got a small competitive scene.
Heroes of Newerth used to be the big second place game next to LoL, and it's still kinda-sorta holding on.
Most of others are either defunct or still in closed alpha/beta, so they're not "out" enough to judge whether or not they've succeeded.
GuitarAtomik
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SMITE is one of my favorite games right now so I'm all for more 3rd person MOBAs. I was really hoping for some gameplay in that trailer to see how they're handling it though.
shacklesmcgee
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I never said that....
Were sick of brown and grey shooters because they were all the same, I'm just noticing a new trend with big comic book styles now
Lactose_Intolerant
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Looked somewhat interesting until the 1 second shot of actual gameplay
This game doesn't seem to have the "killing creeps" part though. And without that part it's pretty much like most online shooters these days. Except you need to have your gigantic guardian defeat the gigantic guardian of the other team in this.
Anyway, I think the topic title needs to be changed because it's misleading.
Purple Cheeto
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Pretty much. I used to try every alpha/beta for one of these but I've invested probably 1200+ hours into DotA2 and LoL and the thought of trying to invest another 300-500 hours to learn another one of these games just isn't that appealing. Every time I try a Strife or an Infinite Crisis or a Heroes of the Storm my first thought is "eh this is okay but I don't know what anyone is or does and none of my friends are playing" and then I just go back to LoL or DotA2 where my friends are and I already know how to play.
You need to offer something a little more divergent than what HotS etc are offering at this point.
Tertullian
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"3rd person MOBA"? As opposed to the standard 1st person MOBA?
EDIT: I get it, guys, I was just being a jerk because it's wrong. Any game in which you're a disembodied camera looking at your character from the outside is 3rd person. Overhead/"isometric" is a subset of 3rd person.
EDIT: I get it, guys, I was just being a jerk because it's wrong. Any game in which you're a disembodied camera looking at your character from the outside is 3rd person. Overhead/"isometric" is a subset of 3rd person.
They mean over-the-shoulder, like SMITE or Gears of War.
Eteric Rice
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Well, more like the overhead style most mobas go with.
Over the shoulder/spring-follow camera that looks mostly forwards as opposed to an RTS-style camera that looks down.
Lactose_Intolerant
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They want to be able to run on toasters
th4tguy
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FortNite is NOT a MOBA. Not in the least.
Smite is doing ok from what i hear, they managed to carve out a niche by going 3rd person.
Awesomenauts did ok too i think.
Most mobas announced recently aren't out yet. Even blizzards Hots is still in closed beta. It will take a while to see which end up sucessful.
I still think there's room for alternate takes on the genre and i do believe there's sucess to be had with a well made first or 3rd person moba on consoles. They likely won't reach LoL levels but that game is so mindnumbingly huge that every other game looks small by comparison.
th4tguy
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FortNite is NOT a tower defense game either. Where are you people getting this info? Seriously, I need to know where the confusion is.
Huh? That's the exact same art direction style as Dota 2.
Edit: After watching the trailer, I think it's significantly worse. It's too cartoonish for my tastes. Beyond TF2 even.
Turin Turambar
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Because when people talkf of Age of Empires or Starcraft, they say "3rd person camera"... no. That's overhead or isometric camera.
Smite is doing just fine because it's actually different. The other games that are just like LoL with some gameplay twist (Dawngate) probably won't get a huge audience.
If you are going to introduce yet another "MOBA" it should be really different from what already exist, otherwise there really isn't a reason for it to exist at all.
Leafhopper
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As in the almost cartoon style (I like it but I don't care for MOBAs)? I am not sure.
This I can believe.
The gameplay I saw was a 3rd person defend your base game like Sanctum with better building. That is tower defense to me.
decoyplatypus
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Overhead and isometric are variants on a third-person camera. "Third person" distinguishes the camera setup from first-person games, not from overhead or isometric games.
shacklesmcgee
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Had you only told Crytek...
SteveWinwood
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graphics: the only reason people play mobas
Well, MOBA is the broadest term ever. So the game would still fit under it even without creeps. Because it is a multiplayer online battle arena.
MOBA is the dumbest name ever given to a type of games.
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