GAF, did I get raped?

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Can we stop with the angry Simpsons-like mob bandwagon everytime somebody fucking posts something, please.

It's damn annoying and doesn't help anything or anyone.

I think first we should stop with the fucking appalling victim blaming and double standards before bitching about "bandwagoning", don't you think?
 

fertygo

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I had a male friend that was raped, and his case wasn't taken seriously. Was pretty disgraceful. We also both came from a small down where everyone knows everyone, and he was treated with scorn. Sadly, it seems like some people can't accept that male's can also be raped.

Yeah, that's why I'm gonna felt cautious for reporting thing like this, authority not taking you seriously gonna just hurt you more, or shit who knows what you'll got if you have bad luck, its can backfire badly.
 

surrogate

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Well yeah. We can only go off of what one person said. It's a forum, and thus limited to what the person said. But if what OP says is true, it was certainly rape. Unfortunately, none of us can actually say for sure, except OP (but he wanted advice from people). So people gave it.

If the situation he says happened, it was rape.

OP says he said no, she said it's okay and continued regardless. He then can't remember anything else because he was too blacked out. If he's too blacked out to consent, then he can't consent. Further, she apologized to him the next day (implying she was sorry for something). I mean, I don't know what else to say. If someone is too blacked out to consent, and someone has sex anyways, I don't know what else you would call that BUT rape....

I don't think assuming that one parties recollection of events is completely accurate is the prudent way of determining whether or not a felony has been committed. If the OP feels he was taken advantage of, the he should talk to a professional (counselor, lawyer, or law enforcement), not some random strangers on the internet. Something about trial by message board just rubs me wrong.
 

besada

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I don't think assuming that one parties recollection of events is completely accurate is the prudent way of determining whether or not a felony has been committed. If the OP feels he was taken advantage of, the he should talk to a professional (counselor, lawyer, or law enforcement), not some random strangers on the internet. Something about trial by message board just rubs me wrong.
We're not having a trial. We're comforting the OP and supporting him. If that's a problem for you, I'd ask you to stop posting.
 

Yagharek

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Yeah, that's why I'm gonna felt cautious for reporting thing like this, authority not taking you seriously gonna just hurt you more, or shit who knows what you'll got if you have bad luck, its can backfire badly.

It's a tough one, but the more people report rape, the more common it is assumed to be and thus more people will be taken seriously.

Presently, rape amongst all groups is under reported which feeds into the stigma about it.

If the OP feels justified in reporting it, they should do so. They might get a good response or they might get a shit response. But maybe ten years from now an equivalent case might get the treatment it deserves.

Complacency or resignation about the police and legal systems will only maintain the status quo.

All rapes should be taken seriously.
 

Gotchaye

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We're not having a trial. We're comforting the OP and supporting him. If that's a problem for you, I'd ask you to stop posting.

The circumstantial evidence all points to Besada banning this poster, but I don't think it'd hold up in court.
 
Can we stop with the angry Simpsons-like mob bandwagon everytime somebody fucking posts something, please.

It's damn annoying and doesn't help anything or anyone.

Correcting people on the very wrong assumption that men can't be raped isn't helping anything or anyone? The way society treats rape victims and as evidenced by this thread, male rape victims in particular is disgusting, and should in fact be pointed out and corrected as often as possible. How else is anyone going to learn anything?
 
He's saying that men don't get taken as seriously as women when they say they've been raped. Regardless of whether this is true or not, he certainly seems to have other reasons for beating the topic dead.

I was more focused on woman can have sex than cry rape part, but all it is pretty shitty considering the thread he's posting in.
 

Kazerei

Banned
I'm angry at myself for getting that drunk and allowing myself to be in that situation.
I'm not considering any legal action because I'm still trying to come to terms with what happened. I know I shouldn't blame myself but it's hard not to when I take responsibility for my actions so much. I can't help but think that if I didn't get that drunk, this wouldn't have happened.

It's crushing my soul because this is how all the rape victims I know felt. They were the exact same way. YOU ARE NOT ALONE.

As others have mentioned, please, please, please seek counselling. I wish you the best.
 
Sounds like rape to me. Similar situation happened to me when I was in the military. I reported the incident to my chain of command and she just laughed it off.
 

FyreWulff

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That depends, did you get your dick up? If so, and pardon my ignorance, I really don't think you've been raped. You might have felt dirty and maybe violated afterwards, but in that specific moment in the heat of the moment, psychically, I wouldn't say you were raped.

But again, I might be thinking way too simple now.

You can become sexually excited, orgasm, and feel pleasure during a rape. For both genders.

Your brain cannot prevent this even if you're not wanting it to happen.

This is in fact one of the things you have to get through as a rape victim. Being violated but having pleasure during the event is a total mind mixer.

If you don't consent then it's rape. Full fucking stop. There is no qualifiers, "but you", or re-considerations.

Might already been said, but there was a guy who won a lawsuit (rape case) against a woman who perfomed oral sex on him while he was unconscious.

Don't be that guy though.

Fuck you.
 

Pathos

Banned
Holy fuck that sucks OP
A lot of people seem to be haunted with flashbacks and paranoia when it happens
I hope for all the best in your recovery
 

t-storm

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Correcting people on the very wrong assumption that men can't be raped isn't helping anything or anyone? The way society treats rape victims and as evidenced by this thread, male rape victims in particular is disgusting, and should in fact be pointed out and corrected as often as possible. How else is anyone going to learn anything?
Correcting other people is fine but some of the reactions to his ignorance are far more disturbing than anything else I've read. No need for the "Are you fucking serious?" type of posts repeated ad nauseum. It's not supporting the OP and not helping those displaying ignorance whatsoever.
 

ramuh

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Hey OP, I wish you well in your recovery from this ordeal. It sucks and you can only try to move on. Nasty person who does something like that.
 

TheJLC

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Sorry to hear OP. I would recommend talking to a professional and going from there. I hope you feel better and understand that you shouldn't blame yourself.
 
You were raped and I'm very sorry. It's also horrible that some people in this thread are using words and phrases like "probably" and "sounds like". This is a very clear case.

She didn't put anything in my drinks and I'm pretty sure she stopped and removed/got rid of the condom because I wasn't exactly performing at my best.

This woman is a monster.

1) Get tested.
2) Go to the police.
3) Find a therapist to help you get through all this.

I know I shouldn't blame myself but it's hard not to when I take responsibility for my actions so much. I can't help but think that if I didn't get that drunk, this wouldn't have happened.

If she had cut your throat while you were drunk, would you say the same thing? You have a right to get as drunk as you want. And you have a right to not be raped when you are drunk. People don't get to harm other people just because they are inebriated. It's your body; you have the right to put as much alcohol in it as you want, and you have the right to decide who touches your body and when.

Edit: I want to add that, statistically speaking, the police are likely to make this an even more upsetting process (I had a family member experience this). You should try and prepare yourself for that as best you can going in. Once again, I'm so sorry. Best of luck.
 

Baron Aloha

A Shining Example
So what happens if, hypothetically, the girl gets pregnant? Does he owe child support?

OP, I would report it to the authorities just in case so there is a record of it for this very reason.
 

Foggy

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Sounds like rape and I'm terribly sorry OP. Seek counseling right away.

Legally, is it imperative that he alert the police as soon as possible? What are the ramifications if he waits to "process" what happened?
 

terrisus

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So what happens if, hypothetically, the girl gets pregnant? Does he owe child support?

OP, I would report it to the authorities just in case so there is a record of it for this very reason.

Not to mention, you know, if the other person decides to claim later that she was the one who was raped.
If you didn't say anything until after she did, unfortunately, it's going to make things even worse.
 
I know the worst offenders have been banned, but it would be great if supposedly logical and skeptical people would stop acting like being stubbornly noncommittal is somehow the proper way to demonstrate exactly how logical and skeptical you are. Part of being logical is accepting the evidence before you. Questioning everything to look skeptical all the time just makes you look like an irrational jerk. And as others have pointed out, we aren't in a court of law, so we can assume the recollection of the OP for the sake of compassion without collapsing the US' already shitty justice system.
 

jchap

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You probably wouldn't have been raped if you weren't dressing so slutty

am I doing it right?
 

hwalker84

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Guys can't get raped. If it get hard its not rape.

I'm kidding of course

If the roles were reversed it would be rape so I'd say if you feel raped you were.
 

Radec

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Are even hard when you said no?

Cause when im that drunk noone won't even get my dick hard.

yeah you got violated.
 
Its crazy how society and the media make it that that were conditioned to think "normal" rape is like some seedy dude on a defenseless girl, ive seldom heard the other side of the rape "story"

I have a different perspective now
 

Trojan X

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... Still coming to terms with it before considering legal action? ... Oh my.. You need counselling, my friend. Please go and seek professional help and I really would consider talking to that girl if you really don't want to go to someone legally. I think it will help you and at the same time make her realise the seriousness of her actions. I think she will listen to you as you said she already apologised (I hope she was sincere with that apology).

Good luck. *sigh....
 
I'm sorry to hear this happened to you OP. It does sound like rape. My condolences =[

Don't fall into the hole that others that I know that have had this happen to them have fallen into. Seek help as soon as possible. A professional, such as a counselor, would be the best person to go to. Don't keep this to yourself, try to deal with this completely alone, or believe that this was your fault.

Yeah, you may have made a mistake by getting into that situation. However, there was a much bigger offense that has occurred and needs to be dealt with; whether you choose to take legal action or not is your choice. Just send her the clear message that what she did was NOT ok. She may do it to other guys after you.
 
You were raped, please call the police and report her, along with getting tested at a doctor and setting up therapy. You need to do all 3 of these things for multiple reasons people have mentioned in the posts above.

Even if you think you love this girl what she did to you is not the kind of person you want to spend the rest of your life with or even be in a relationship with. If any of your friends laugh at you or say stupid things like some of the banned users in this thread have said they aren't really your friends.

This is going to be a very difficult couple of weeks/months for you, the first step you need to do is admit to yourself you were raped and get on the path to recovery. If you aren't comfortable calling the police/a doctor/a therapist on your own go/call with a parent or close friend.

Feel free to post/rage/cry to us, you have a ton of people here supporting you!
 

Mononoke

Banned
Yeah, that's why I'm gonna felt cautious for reporting thing like this, authority not taking you seriously gonna just hurt you more, or shit who knows what you'll got if you have bad luck, its can backfire badly.

It's terrible. Some of the posters that got banned in this thread, are the kind of attitudes that someone might face when trying to report a rape. And to be clear, women also face stigmas and are judged for reporting rape (ie. you asked for it, you shouldn't have been in a situation where you could get raped, you must have done something to cause it).

But I do think as a male, there is another stigma on top of it (ie. men can't get raped, you are stronger than her, so how could she rape you. Men love sex, so how can it be rape). Bleh. It's all ignorance.

Again for me, I don't think gender should be a factor -- period. Sex is an act between two consenting individuals. A rapist, is someone that chooses to have sex with someone without their consent, or against their will. Gender is completely irrelevant. I just don't get how, people can't have compassion for the victims.
 
This happened to a friend of mine. Same exact thing, the blackout/in and out of remembering anything/passing out and all. He claims that he had no intention of it and that he was raped. (or forced into it)
 
The topic of gender in rape situations is something that is worth (and in need of) discussion, just not in this thread.

This thread is about a member of the community who needs compassion, and if he wants it, assistance.

That's how I feel about it, anyway.
 

Trojan X

Banned
Wow, I think I've seen more people get banned in this one thread then the last 3 NPD threads combined.

Some people...

Some of those bans are really questionable though... I guess it depends on how long there are banned for. Anyhow, I can't really say anything and I haven't been a Moderator of this forum and an Editor for Gaming Age since 2002, and everyone I knew that managed this forum since then are just either standard members like me, readers or gone.
 

Fireblend

Banned
Wow at some of the ridiculous replies in here. Mods have done a great job so far.

OP, if you're still here: I haven't read through the entirety of this thread, but do consider talking about this to a therapist or some other sort of professional who knows how to deal with these things, even if you feel it hasn't or shouldn't have "affected" you "that much" (it seems like it has, hence this thread though). Don't assume you have to handle this alone, or that it's something that you're supposed to brush aside or resign yourself to - no one deserves to be raped and what happened was in no way your fault - don't deny yourself the help you need for any reason.
 

Yagharek

Member
OP should also consider taking names, badge numbers and record dates and times of contact with police.

If you take action and get flipped off by shit cops, use this info to get formal complaints down the line. If you dont get a satisfactory treatment, go higher.
 
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