Sony Gamescom: PS4 install base exceeded 10 million units sold through globally.

RoKKeR said:
Not exactly a fair comparison considering their are 8 Xbone SKU's on Amazon to the PS4's two. Not saying the thirst isn't real, but just saying.

I'm really interested to see how the PS4 does going forward and whether or not they keep up the momentum, they are in uncharted territory with how well this console has been doing!
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Ye and only 2 of those Sku's are in the top 40. So only 2 sku's are popular. 6 are unwanted.
 
RoKKeR said:
Not exactly a fair comparison considering their are 8 Xbone SKU's on Amazon to the PS4's two. Not saying the thirst isn't real, but just saying.

I'm really interested to see how the PS4 does going forward and whether or not they keep up the momentum, they are in uncharted territory with how well this console has been doing!
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Uncharted? PS2 was the most successful console ever made.
 
N.Domixis said:
Sony said that their was a 1% chance of getting a dud back when the dead ps4s were popping up. so the possibility would be like .01^4 which is .00000001 or .000001% to get four consecutive duds?

If that is true, its almost impossible.
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Coincidentally enough that's 1 to 10 million probability. He is the chosen one!!!!
 
coldone said:
I have a PS4... every time I show a game to some one and say look here is a new shiny console. The answer is oh yah, I have seen Towerfall on Ouya, Fez on 360, Last of Us on PS3, Destiny beta on 360.. It was never this hard to demo a console before.

When I first showed Gears on 360, Halo on OG Xbox, GT3 on PS2, FF on PS1.. The answer was "wow.. I have never seen this before". Even on PS3, the first game I showed my wife was Ratchet and she said.. "This looks like Pixar movie and not the polygonal ratchet you used to play on PS2".
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You may have a point and it may be in issue but the fact that the PS4 has already sold 10 million+ indicates that you're really just looking for a problem that doesn't exist
 
N.Domixis said:
Sony said that their was a 1% chance of getting a dud back when the dead ps4s were popping up. so the possibility would be like .01^4 which is .00000001 or .000001% to get four consecutive duds?

If that is true, its almost impossible.
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Luckily, he can just cash in a winning lottery ticket whenever he goes to buy a new ps4.
 
RoKKeR said:
Not exactly a fair comparison considering their are 8 Xbone SKU's on Amazon to the PS4's two. Not saying the thirst isn't real, but just saying.

I'm really interested to see how the PS4 does going forward and whether or not they keep up the momentum, they are in uncharted territory with how well this console has been doing!
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Lol at this nonsense. Sony is new to selling huge amount of consoles now? Did you say let's wait and see in November and March also?
It's only going to do better. My goodness man.
 
benny_a said:
I don't know anyone with an Ouya but clearly it's extremely popular as we just learned.
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Sure seems like a plausible scenario that when showing off a new and shiny thing you pick a retro styled 2D plat-former.

I know I show off my 55" Samsung OLED by playing VHS versions of the goonies because that is a sure way to impress people. But they keep saying how they've already seen the goonies on LaserDisk before so they aren't impressed with my TV.

It makes me sad and regret my purchase.
 
illmatic22 said:
I disagree with the idea that Playstation 4 has no worth while games. It has had them since launch. Multiplatform games count as part of the catalog. I don't think people are buying this thing out of desperation for a new console.
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The reason why some people are complaining about the ps4 right now is that most of the big games can be played on older consoles without wasting $400+ on the console.Some people may think these big games are big enough to buy a new console if they look better than the version on the older consoles, but for some people like me we are looking for more games that can only be bought on any of the next gen consoles or games that actually justify wasting $400+ on any of the next gen consoles.
 
vcc said:
I don't know anyone whose died of cancer, this whole cancer thing is overblown.
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Poor analogy. We have statistics about cancer and cancer rates. We don't have statistics on how many people have friends who are unimpressed with the games they are shown.
 
pastrami said:
Poor analogy. We have statistics about cancer and cancer rates. We don't have statistics on how many people have friends who are unimpressed with the games they are shown.
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Of course we have.

My 360 no scope uploads to Facebook are very well liked. My aunt loves them.
 
mo60 said:
The reason why some people are complaining about the ps4 right now is that most of the big games can be played on older consoles without wasting $400+ on the console.Some people may think these big games are big enough to buy a new console if they look better than the version on the older consoles, but for some people like me we are looking for more games that can only be bought on any of the next gen consoles or games that actually justify wasting $400+ on any of the next gen consoles.
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They look AND play better. Compare FF XIV or BF4 on ps4 and ps3. Huge difference.
 
pastrami said:
Poor analogy. We have statistics about cancer and cancer rates. We don't have statistics on how many people have friends who are unimpressed with the games they are shown.
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I'm just saying trying to extrapolate a general trend from a personal experience is problematic.
 
So apparently there's a lot of people expecting others to all of a sudden stop buying the console their friends have, in fact they expect 66% of the people to do so.

Probably it's the opposite.

And that is probably why Microsoft is just trying to buy exclusives. They are dead otherwise.
 
Dragonborn said:
Have you not seen the massive amounts of games coming to PS4 and not X1? Not to mention all the exclusives Sony's studios are working on, many of them new IPs. The tent pole franchises (GT,GOW,UC etc) will all come in due time unless you believe all of Sony's studios are sitting around doing nothing .

Destiny will sell more PS4s than almost any exclusive could, that should put things in perspective for you
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What are you talking about now? PS4 has massively more games than X1? Going to need you to prove it. They seem very similar in size and quality.
 
coldone said:
I have a PS4... every time I show a game to some one and say look here is a new shiny console. The answer is oh yah, I have seen Towerfall on Ouya, Fez on 360, Last of Us on PS3, Destiny beta on 360.. It was never this hard to demo a console before.

When I first showed Gears on 360, Halo on OG Xbox, GT3 on PS2, FF on PS1.. The answer was "wow.. I have never seen this before". Even on PS3, the first game I showed my wife was Ratchet and she said.. "This looks like Pixar movie and not the polygonal ratchet you used to play on PS2".
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Glad u came out from under your bridge to share this
 
spatenfloot said:
They look AND play better. Compare FF XIV or BF4 on ps4 and ps3. Huge difference.
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Some people think that may not be a good enough reason to buy a ps4 and/or an xb1(to an extent) yet.Most games are just a resolution or a framerate bump and are not radically different from the previous gen versions of the game. I think a lot more people will jump into the next gen once people have enough of a reason to stop playing or slowly stop playing on there older consoles.
 
Lynn616 said:
What are you talking about now? PS4 has massively more games than X1? Going to need you to prove it. They seem very similar in size and quality.
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If you're talking sheer numbers of games available, PS4 has quite an edge because of all the indies that are also available on platforms like PC. In terms of exclusives however they're in similar shape.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/ps4/metascore

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/xboxone/metascore
 
Lynn616 said:
What are you talking about now? PS4 has massively more games than X1? Going to need you to prove it. They seem very similar in size and quality.
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Not going to start a list war, at Gc alone they showed over 50 games. If you're one of those people that thinks indies, F2P and anything not made with a 20 million budget aren't games then you'll obviously disagree. Doesn't make it any less of a fact.
 
mo60 said:
The reason why some people are complaining about the ps4 right now is that most of the big games can be played on older consoles without wasting $400+ on the console.Some people may think these big games are big enough to buy a new console if they look better than the version on the older consoles, but for some people like me we are looking for more games that can only be bought on any of the next gen consoles or games that actually justify wasting $400+ on any of the next gen consoles.
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It has always be the same right? Every single generation. Heck I paid 600€ for a PS3 with no games. So what's the problem?

Sony won the gamers already. The gamers will win the generation with their qualified recommendations.
 
Brad Grenz said:
PS4 has about 50% more games available right now than Xbox One.
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I prefer to think of it as 30% less.

Lynn616 said:
No need for list war. I dont believe either one of you.
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There is actually a website where you can look at this ridiculous shit if you care about absolute numbers so much:
http://www.listwar.com/released-games/

And it doesn't even count the japanese exclusive games to pad that number even higher. If that website counted that key market it would be even more! *Shocked*
 
Dragonborn said:
Not going to start a list war, at Gc alone they showed over 50 games. If you're one of those people that thinks indies, F2P and anything not made with a 20 million budget aren't games then you'll obviously disagree. Doesn't make it any less of a fact.
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Brad Grenz said:
PS4 has about 50% more games available right now than Xbox One.
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No need for list war. I was reading you guys wrong. I was thinking exclusive games. It was so hammered into us last gen that games also on the PC dont count that I forgot that they do now.
 
mo60 said:
Some people think that may not be a good enough reason to buy a ps4 and/or an xb1(to an extent) yet.Most games are just a resolution or a framerate bump and are not radically different from the previous gen versions of the game. I think a lot more people will jump into the next gen once people have enough of a reason to stop playing or slowly stop playing on there older consoles.
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The current gen version of BF4 allows 64 player games of conquest as opposed to 32. It is not just the graphics.
However, based on how fast ps4 versions have moved up the sales charts and how fast last gen versions dropped, I would say many people think it is reason enough. Take a look at the sales breakdown charts in the Ubisoft financial report thread. It is amazing to compare the percentage changes.
 
coldone said:
I have a PS4... every time I show a game to some one and say look here is a new shiny console. The answer is oh yah, I have seen Towerfall on Ouya, Fez on 360, Last of Us on PS3, Destiny beta on 360.. It was never this hard to demo a console before.

When I first showed Gears on 360, Halo on OG Xbox, GT3 on PS2, FF on PS1.. The answer was "wow.. I have never seen this before". Even on PS3, the first game I showed my wife was Ratchet and she said.. "This looks like Pixar movie and not the polygonal ratchet you used to play on PS2".
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what did they say when you demoed inFamous, tho? What about Playroom?

DEAD @ you using Tower-fucking-fall and Fez to demo PS4 to your friends. X-D
 
vcc said:
Sure seems like a plausible scenario that when showing off a new and shiny thing you pick a retro styled 2D plat-former.

I know I show off my 55" Samsung OLED by playing VHS versions of the goonies because that is a sure way to impress people. But they keep saying how they've already seen the goonies on LaserDisk before so they aren't impressed with my TV.

It makes me sad and regret my purchase.
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Funny, Towerfall is what finally sold my friend on the PS4 (local vs gameplay that's simple to pick up and difficult to master). It's amazing what anecdotal evidence does to an argument!

Also related: since I only have 3 friends, and one will buy a PS4 because of Towerfall, we can then extrapolate that every third friend of a PS4 owner will also buy a PS4, just for Towerfall!
 
Lynn616 said:
No need for list war. I was reading you guys wrong. I was thinking exclusive games. It was so hammered into us last gen that games also on the PC dont count that I forgot that they do now.
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Of course, they're not exclusive. I didn't claim they were. I just said that the PS4 had way more games (in response to people wondering why it's selling so well), which is without a doubt true. It's not even close
 
Lynn616 said:
No need for list war. I was reading you guys wrong. I was thinking exclusive games. It was so hammered into us last gen that games also on the PC dont count that I forgot that they do now.
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But I thought that the MS party line is that PC doesn't count.
I know when I was a 360 fanboy I considered Bioshock an exclusive.
 
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