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[MidgarBlowedUp]

The point is it didn't get much airplay until the police started attacking journalists. Arresting and detaining without charging. Failing to identify themselves, etc. More people should have cared before that in my opinion.

Gotta keep us white folk stupid. The christian political republican tea party 1% machine can't function if we get too smart and figure stuff out. I mean fuck, remember Katrina? They made it look like no one lived there except black people, and all of them were looters and rapists that didn't know how to swim.

I may not know what it is like, but I know enough to see it is wrong. I know enough to see that our country should have already transitioned out of racism at a much faster rate than this.

 

[Camp Lo]

:lol what the hell happened to this thread.

 

[CrankyJay]

:lol what the hell happened to this thread.

Bingo card derail turned this into "Higher Learning: The Thread"

 

[Byakuya769]

I'm curious: what would convince you that he was shot because of his skin color?

"Hey nigger, I'm going to kill you because you're a nigger. I said nigger because you're black. By black, I mean you look like you're of Sub-Saharan African descent. This is purely about your race. I hate you. Nigger."

Something like that. Otherwise, there is always going to be some lame ass narrative that some will find it so fulfilling to manufacture in order to downplay our systemic problem.

 

[FartOfWar]

Lmao, yeah, that's it.

At this point they have to know that releasing the coroner's report which is gonna confirm he was shot a dozen times is gonna spark some serious rioting. The longer they wait, though, the worse this is gonna get.

 

[SlackAdjuster]

Let's not cry too hard about white folks who don't make it on the news for getting capped by the police when we get disproportionate coverage for missing pretty white girls.

Ugh, I'm not crying about anything. Let me get out of here for awhile before I get baited into more bullshit by people who wanna twist shit around.

 

[Battlezone]

There was a short, but powerful clip on Melissa Harris-Perry this morning on the deaths of black men in America. It was chilling.

Actually, the whole show was pretty great, if you can track it down. Most of the segments are on MSNBC's site.

 

[FartOfWar]

Well they shoot tear gas at night, because night time is scary and because it's scary they shoot the tear gas.

Didn't the looting happen at night? Was that why they fired the tear gas then? Or are you abandoning the distinction between protesters and the actual rioters?

 

[SlackAdjuster]

At this point they have to know that releasing the coroner's report which is gonna confirm he was shot a dozen times is gonna spark some serious rioting. The longer they wait, though, the worse this is gonna get.

Isn't that already common knowledge? I've heard pretty much 8-10 all along. For me it doesn't make a difference if the kid was killed whether it was 1 or 150.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

Folks, I'm not in front of a computer right now and don't have time to really catch up on the hundreds of posts I've missed since early afternoon. If I have time later, I'll try and sort out who was and wasn't out of line if it proves necessary. But in the meantime, I don't know (or for that matter care in terms of public discussion, any concerns should be PM'd to moderation) who started what or escalated this, but let's try and keep this discussion about what's important. I know tensions are high, but let's try and be civil and keep the conversation on point.

So, whatever the argument is right now? Please drop it within this thread. If you think someone is being an obtuse jerk or getting overly personal, PM a mod. I will be happy to look into anything later. Other mods that might me available now that have been following this thread would include besada, Gotchaye, or bishoptl. If you think myself or any of the names I listed are biased jerks, then any other mod will also work.

But regardless, this is an important conversation. And skimming the last page or so, it seems as though it's gone off the rails.

 

[CrimsonCommie]

At this point they have to know that releasing the coroner's report which is gonna confirm he was shot a dozen times is gonna spark some serious rioting. The longer they wait, though, the worse this is gonna get.

Yesterday on MSNBC the family's attorney, I think it was their attorney, said that they had their own autopsy done and will be releasing the information soon. I'm thinking Monday

 

[timetokill]

Didn't the looting happen at night? Was that why they fired the tear gas then?

No, the cops didn't do anything about the looting, which is probably for the best.

 

[CrankyJay]

Ugh, I'm not crying about anything. Let me get out of here for awhile before I get baited into more bullshit by people who wanna twist shit around.

I didn't mean that personally as in you crying, I meant us as in white people. I wasn't baiting you, I just don't think the point you were making was relevant.

 

[BHZ Mayor]

"Hey nigger, I'm going to kill you because you're a nigger. I said nigger because you're black. By black, I mean you look like you're of Sub-Saharan African descent. This is purely about your race. I hate you. Nigger."

Something like that. Otherwise, there is always going to be some lame ass narrative that some will find it so fulfilling to manufacture in order to downplay our systemic problem.

"He was just angry and wanted to say the worst thing he could think of. Everyone has said racist stuff when they're mad."

 

[FartOfWar]

Has this picture been posted yet?
http://imgur.com/dFrTvrU

Usual semantics arguments in the comments. What is an assault rifle, really? Is a game a game even when it involves knockouts?

 

[slit]

:lol what the hell happened to this thread.

GAF has become a small sample of what's to come nationwide.

Not pretty is it?

 

[EmCeeGramr]

"Hey nigger, I'm going to kill you because you're a nigger. I said nigger because you're black. By black, I mean you look like you're of Sub-Saharan African descent. This is purely about your race. I hate you. Nigger."

Something like that. Otherwise, there is always going to be some lame ass narrative that some will find it so fulfilling to manufacture in order to downplay our systemic problem.

Look language changes man and "Sub-Saharan African" could mean a lot of things without actually meaning race like when you're frustrated and you stub your toe

"Ow! Sub-Saharan Africans!" you shout. Now what's really racist, that or trying to see everything through a prism of race like Obama and

 

[Indicate]

Here's the dialogue in exact quotes from a few minutes ago thanks to pvr. lol.

Kevin Jackson: "The problem is these kids don't have jobs, their parents have no jobs. They are struggling to get the basic stuff out of life"

Poppy (CNN): "What do you mean? ...wait...what do you mean these kids? We're talking about Ferguson, were talking about Michael Brown who just graduated from highschool, was going onto college, did not have a criminal record. Taking specifically about this, sir.

Kevin Jackson: *Laughs* "Poppy, everytime you are talking about Michael Brown you want to make him a choir boy. There are no choir boys in the ghetto."

Poppy (CNN): "I never said that. To be fair I never said that."

Jackson then continues talking about how people say Mike "was the best thing since sliced bread" (lmfao) then reintroduces the word choir boy.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Here's the dialogue in exact quotes from a few minutes ago thanks to pvr. lol.

Kevin Jackson: "The problem is these kids don't have jobs, their parents have no jobs. They are struggling to get the basic stuff out of life"

Poppy (CNN): "What do you mean? ...wait...what do you mean these kids? We're talking about Ferguson, were talking about Michael Brown who just graduated from highschool, was going onto college, did not have a criminal record. Taking specifically about this, sir.

Kevin Jackson: *Laughs* "Poppy, everytime you are talking about Michael Brown you want to make him a choir boy. There are no choir boys in the ghetto."

Poppy: "I never said that. To be fair I never said that."

Jackson then continues talking about how people say Mike "was the best thing since sliced bread" (lmfao) then reintroduces the word choir boy.

Man fuck him

 

[Byakuya769]

"He was just angry and wanted to say the worst thing he could think of. Everyone has said racist stuff when they're mad."

Dammit. I forgot about that go to strategy!

Look language changes man and "Sub-Saharan African" could mean a lot of things without actually meaning race like when you're frustrated and you stub your toe

"Ow! Sub-Saharan Africans!" you shout. Now what's really racist, that or trying to see everything through a prism of race like Obama and

hahahaha

 

[CrimsonCommie]

Here's the dialogue in exact quotes from a few minutes ago thanks to pvr. lol.

Kevin Jackson: "The problem is these kids don't have jobs, their parents have no jobs. They are struggling to get the basic stuff out of life"

Poppy (CNN): "What do you mean? ...wait...what do you mean these kids? We're talking about Ferguson, were talking about Michael Brown who just graduated from highschool, was going onto college, did not have a criminal record. Taking specifically about this, sir.

Kevin Jackson: *Laughs* "Poppy, everytime you are talking about Michael Brown you want to make him a choir boy. There are no choir boys in the ghetto."

Poppy: "I never said that. To be fair I never said that."

Jackson then continues talking about how people say Mike "was the best thing since sliced bread" (lmfao) then reintroduces the word choir boy.

That guy is disgusting. Why did they let him on the air? Do you really need a racist viewpoint to make the news "fair and balanced"?

 

[timetokill]

Is there a transcript of the governor's bullshit conference earlier?

 

[FartOfWar]

Isn't that already common knowledge? I've heard pretty much 8-10 all along. For me it doesn't make a difference if the kid was killed whether it was 1 or 150.

Well, the cops' narrative is that Brown attempted to take Wilson's weapon which provoked Wilson to shoot Brown. Should the coroner's report confirm the accounts of witnesses and establish that Brown was shot repeatedly and that the wounds were received when the victim was on the ground, the police narrative is officially fucked. So no, dude, it doesn't matter if it was 1 or 100 in that he was killed, but it does matter in so far as it establishes that he was murdered.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Here's the dialogue in exact quotes from a few minutes ago thanks to pvr. lol.

Kevin Jackson: "The problem is these kids don't have jobs, their parents have no jobs. They are struggling to get the basic stuff out of life"

Poppy (CNN): "What do you mean? ...wait...what do you mean these kids? We're talking about Ferguson, were talking about Michael Brown who just graduated from highschool, was going onto college, did not have a criminal record. Taking specifically about this, sir.

Kevin Jackson: *Laughs* "Poppy, everytime you are talking about Michael Brown you want to make him a choir boy. There are no choir boys in the ghetto."

Poppy (CNN): "I never said that. To be fair I never said that."

Jackson then continues talking about how people say Mike "was the best thing since sliced bread" (lmfao) then reintroduces the word choir boy.

The classic "nothing good comes from there" self-fulfilling prophecy. Say it enough and enough people believe it so you don't have to back it up, and there's an out when life fucks them.

 

[CrimsonCommie]

Is there a transcript of the governor's bullshit conference earlier?

It was basically nothing. He announced a curfew and ignored every question.

 

[Rembrandt]

Here's the dialogue in exact quotes from a few minutes ago thanks to pvr. lol.

Kevin Jackson: "The problem is these kids don't have jobs, their parents have no jobs. They are struggling to get the basic stuff out of life"

Poppy (CNN): "What do you mean? ...wait...what do you mean these kids? We're talking about Ferguson, were talking about Michael Brown who just graduated from highschool, was going onto college, did not have a criminal record. Taking specifically about this, sir.

Kevin Jackson: *Laughs* "Poppy, everytime you are talking about Michael Brown you want to make him a choir boy. There are no choir boys in the ghetto."

Poppy (CNN): "I never said that. To be fair I never said that."

Jackson then continues talking about how people say Mike "was the best thing since sliced bread" (lmfao) then reintroduces the word choir boy.

What the actual fuck.

I can't believe he really got on TV and said there are no choir boys in the ghetto.

 

[Infinite]

That guy is disgusting. Why did they let him on the air? Do you really need a racist viewpoint to make the news "fair and balanced"?

CNN consistently give the self hating blacks a mouth piece

 

[CrankyJay]

It was basically nothing. He announced a curfew and ignored every question.

He barely had a chance to answer anything because no one could stop talking.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

Look language changes man and "Sub-Saharan African" could mean a lot of things without actually meaning race like when you're frustrated and you stub your toe

"Ow! Sub-Saharan Africans!" you shout. Now what's really racist, that or trying to see everything through a prism of race like Obama and

LOL

Here's the dialogue in exact quotes from a few minutes ago thanks to pvr. lol.

Kevin Jackson: "The problem is these kids don't have jobs, their parents have no jobs. They are struggling to get the basic stuff out of life"

Poppy (CNN): "What do you mean? ...wait...what do you mean these kids? We're talking about Ferguson, were talking about Michael Brown who just graduated from highschool, was going onto college, did not have a criminal record. Taking specifically about this, sir.

Kevin Jackson: *Laughs* "Poppy, everytime you are talking about Michael Brown you want to make him a choir boy. There are no choir boys in the ghetto."

Poppy (CNN): "I never said that. To be fair I never said that."

Jackson then continues talking about how people say Mike "was the best thing since sliced bread" (lmfao) then reintroduces the word choir boy.

Just when I think the amount of stupid has been topped, a new challenger approaches.

 

[slit]

A curfew is only going to make things worse really. Now anybody outside is breaking the law and then police are supposed to confront them. That's really going to calm the situation I'm sure.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Dammit. I forgot about that go to strategy!



hahahaha

Also, how many times have you heard an urban call someone a "honkey" or "cracker" or "white fool" before the guns come out? Now, my neighbor? He saw *lowers voice* a black guy *raises voice* walking down the sidewalk obviously staring into cars and when my neighbor told him to stop or he'd call the police, this *lowers voice* black guy *raises voice* suddenly called him a "white racist Em-Effer!!"

You don't hear about that on the news, now do you!?!?!?

 

[Slayven]

So Fox is blaming Sharpton for Ferguson?

 

[CrimsonCommie]

CNN consistently give the self hating blacks a mouth piece

Oh wow I just assumed he was a white guy /:

He barely had a chance to answer anything because no one could stop talking.

And when he did have a chance he ignored the question and would take another question from a different person which he would also ignore.

 

[BHZ Mayor]

Here's the dialogue in exact quotes from a few minutes ago thanks to pvr. lol.

Kevin Jackson: "The problem is these kids don't have jobs, their parents have no jobs. They are struggling to get the basic stuff out of life"

Poppy (CNN): "What do you mean? ...wait...what do you mean these kids? We're talking about Ferguson, were talking about Michael Brown who just graduated from highschool, was going onto college, did not have a criminal record. Taking specifically about this, sir.

Kevin Jackson: *Laughs* "Poppy, everytime you are talking about Michael Brown you want to make him a choir boy. There are no choir boys in the ghetto."

Poppy (CNN): "I never said that. To be fair I never said that."

Jackson then continues talking about how people say Mike "was the best thing since sliced bread" (lmfao) then reintroduces the word choir boy.

I just googled this guy to see who he is, and I came across the site he writes for, the Blackasphere or something like that. I remember coming across it once about a year or so ago, and I honestly thought it was a parody site. It still reads like one, but nope, it's real.

 

[antonz]

So Fox is blaming Sharpton for Ferguson?

They got the narrative that he is enflaming things. Nevermind the fact things are always quite peaceful until a small group shows up.

There was not a single indication at all last night things were about to go to shit. Crowd was small and peaceful. Cops acted like jackasses then the crowd suddenly doubled in size and the trouble makers showed up

 

[Jackpot]

If I was there I'd be filled with rage at how easily people were writing off the situation as "probably had it coming" and I'd definitely think force would be an option. You've seen what passiveness gets you.

 

[Malyse]

Here's the dialogue in exact quotes from a few minutes ago thanks to pvr. lol.

Kevin Jackson: "The problem is these kids don't have jobs, their parents have no jobs. They are struggling to get the basic stuff out of life"

Poppy (CNN): "What do you mean? ...wait...what do you mean these kids? We're talking about Ferguson, were talking about Michael Brown who just graduated from highschool, was going onto college, did not have a criminal record. Taking specifically about this, sir.

Kevin Jackson: *Laughs* "Poppy, everytime you are talking about Michael Brown you want to make him a choir boy. There are no choir boys in the ghetto."

Poppy (CNN): "I never said that. To be fair I never said that."

Jackson then continues talking about how people say Mike "was the best thing since sliced bread" (lmfao) then reintroduces the word choir boy.

Fox News Fellatio

 

[UrokeJoe]

She asked why the root of the protest not being answered in this conference. Why is the shooter not arrested or convicted yet, and she said that would cause the protest to die down. Instead they are trying to silence the protest instead of working on the cause of it. The whole conference has been about how they will work to calm the protest down instead of answering and responding to the voice of the protest.

The child is crying and you see it's leg is being crushed yet the mother is trying to put a pacifier in it's mouth instead of attending to the problem.

This seems on point to me with the whole thing.

This meandering they are doing is causing all this trouble.

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

And thats how a good amount of people think. A black person cannot be complex. He is either a choir boy or a criminal. 9.9 times out of 10 though, he is a criminal.

Again:

Black people = violent object
White people = complex subject

 

[Spring-Loaded]

I just googled this guy to see who he is, and I came across the site he writes for, the Blackasphere or something like that. I remember coming across it once about a year or so ago, and I honestly thought it was a parody site. It still reads like one, but nope, it's real.

The Black Sphere is utter shite. Kevin Jackson is to Uncle Ruckus as Lex Luthor is to The Joker

 

[Mumei]

I haven't been keeping up with this thread or the news; where can I find the latest?

 

[Battlezone]

I posted this on the last page during the shitstorm that was going on before the mods calmed things down. I think it's a great clip that needs to be seen.

There was a short, but powerful clip on Melissa Harris-Perry this morning on the deaths of black men in America. It was chilling.

Actually, the whole show was pretty great, if you can track it down. Most of the segments are on MSNBC's site.

 

[double jump]

What a joke. I'm sure you worry about it every day. I don't know why, that's pretty irrational to be honest. I don't feel that way. Is it a possibility? Sure. So is flying out of a roller coaster.

did you just compare systematic racism and how one experiences it to an amusement park ride ?
well shit. weebey.gif

 

[theignoramus]

I'm not angry about it all. Just bringing facts to the table to those that apparently think this only happens to black folks.

"white people would see that it could happen to them, too"

Yeah, I think white people know.

No, I dont think white Americans generally know what it's like to be systematically and disproportionately targeted by law enforcement.
A white guy driving a BMW generally neednt worry about being pulled over by cops presuming he's drug dealer or driving a stolen vehicle.

 

[CrankyJay]

I haven't been keeping up with this thread or the news; where can I find the latest?

Dunno. Governor declared a state of emergency and curfew from 12 midnight to 5am. People didn't seem too happy about it. No info was given on the investigation which upset people even more.

 

[marrec]

And thats how a good amount of people think. A black person cannot be complex. He is either a choir boy or a criminal. 9.9 times out of 10 though, he is a criminal.

Again:

Black people = violent object
White people = complex subject

They're either the exception or the rule.

 

[Renzoku]

I haven't been keeping up with this thread or the news; where can I find the latest?

The vox link in the OP was pretty useful earlier

 

[CorvoSol]

I haven't been keeping up with this thread or the news; where can I find the latest?

There's a link to an article in the first post that I think is pretty helpful in sorting everything out every day.

 

[Mumei]

Battlezone, thanks for posting that video. I just watched it a few minutes ago (saw your post earlier in the thread).

Dunno. Governor declared a state of emergency and curfew from 12 midnight to 5am. People didn't seem too happy about it. No info was given on the investigation which upset people even more.

Do you know if it Is unusual for there not to be updates at this point? My knee-jerk reaction is that I'd prefer that the investigation run its course (with oversight and an independent investigation by the FBI) than to have regular status updates on where they currently stand with the investigation.

Edit: Ah, thanks. I hadn't checked the OP for updates.

 

[EatinOlives]

Nothing good will come from this curfew. Sounds like the police want to turn the screws and force an escalation by making it at 12 AM.

There's only a chance at something happening if the higher powers like the governor actually want to be productive in bringing justice to this travesty. Since he appears to be only worried about keeping the masses docile I highly, highly doubt they'll ever give a fair trial against the officer responsible or even arrest him in the first place. We're back to square 1.

It's fucking disgusting holding a fair application of law at ransom. "You all be good and tame and MAYBE we'll see about moving forward with the charges". Sounds like all the feel-good PR bullshit from a few days ago was just a cheap ploy to escape the national spotlight.