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I wouldnt really call it a successor in the traditional way if the majority of games works on the 3DS. Then the games are originally 3DS games.
Nintendo reveals the "New Nintendo 3DS" and "New Nintendo 3DS LL"
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Nintendo is trying to squeeze the last bit of revenue out of a continually stagnating 3DS market while they can.
Successor will come, but the timing is awkward at this point. Nintendo needs to match up with their home consoles if,they are going to do shared architecture/ecosystem.
HUELEN10
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XL isn't a successor or a redesign; it's a concurrent.
DS has had no redesign and 2 concurrents, DSi had no redesign and 1 concurrent, DS had 1 redesign and no concurrents, and the GBA had 1 redesign (GBA SP, which itself had an update) and 1 concurrent.
It's not that hard to see.
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
Oh, yes, now this is vital. I can't count how many times I've wanted to take my hand off the system and reach up and paw at the top screen. Really FEEL that 3D image, ya know? In multitouch, natch.
Skiptastic
Member
Would my suggestion work better if the second analog stick was below the buttons then? Similar to an Xbox controller?
I don't own a 3DS so I'm not sure how it handles. That tiny second stick just looks very hard to control.
It's on the wrong side for some people, though.
Pegosaurus
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I don't get why everyone is complaining about the brand issue. You all know the difference, why do you care about people who don't? I'm sure they can figure it out, and in the long run of Nintendo is hurt by this then that's on them. Also about these new games just don't buy the new 3ds if you don't want to. I'm gonna sell or trade my XL and buy one screw the haters.
Only question is should I buy the XL or not, the smaller one looks so good.
Only question is should I buy the XL or not, the smaller one looks so good.
I don't get this at all, it's not a successor. By that definition then a GeForce GTX 780 with higher clocks and double the ram is a successor to an ordinary GTX 780 if we go with that kind of logic
Okay, but they still produced the GB while they sold the GBC. It wasn't discontinued until 2003 along with the GBC, when the GBA SP released. That, and the GBC carts looked very similar to GB carts, and would fit into a GB.
The DSi had games exclusive to it. It wasn't as bad, because there were only a couple of physical games that were exclusive, and there was an online store for the rest of them, but still. Besides, the extra buttons can be added to the OG 3DS with an add-on, and games can be enhanced for the New 3DS while still being playable on the OG 3DS- like some GB games, and some DS games. I doubt there will be very many exclusively New 3DS games.
But you could still easily acquire a normal GB when the GBC released. They also looked nearly identical, and used nearly identical carts.
The DSi had more than just the camera. It had better hardware just like in this case, and exclusive games as well (though they were mostly sold through the DSiWare store which couldn't be accessed by the normal DS). There were also DSi enhanced games as well that had features exclusive to the DSi.
The extra buttons added on the New 3DS have been available in the form of an add-on, so you're only missing out on the extra processing power, and likely just a few exclusives. I really feel like Nintendo is going to make the vast majority of future 3DS games compatible with both, except the New 3DS will have enhanced graphics and controls.
I wonder if the improved specs will allow for the iOS Dragon Quest 8 port....hmmm
Anyhow, I just recently imported a US cobalt blue 3DS, so I'll get the 'New regular 3DS' when it releases in the EU.
Also, looking at the DSi to 3DS differences, I wonder if this 3DSi will inform us of Nintendo's plans going forward. I'm guessing the additional buttons will be to effectively absorb the entire dedicated games market (read: Vita market) in Japan, as well as have parity re inputs with their home console(s).
Anyhow, I just recently imported a US cobalt blue 3DS, so I'll get the 'New regular 3DS' when it releases in the EU.
Also, looking at the DSi to 3DS differences, I wonder if this 3DSi will inform us of Nintendo's plans going forward. I'm guessing the additional buttons will be to effectively absorb the entire dedicated games market (read: Vita market) in Japan, as well as have parity re inputs with their home console(s).
Nostremitus
Member
I'm gonna buy a New 3ds and transfer my data over, then sell or trade my old one... Then I'll probably buy a second New 3DS for my wife...
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
Because that's what it's called. It's all over the official materials and floppin out of Iwata-Sama's gob.
I didn't, and most people won't either. Just because members from Gaf know the difference, doesn't mean little Jimmy that wants that New 3DS game that he is oh so looking forward to play on his OG 3DS is gonna know the difference either. It's the same situation with the Wii and Wii U
I'll pick it up, seems like a decent way to tide over the wait for the next handheld. I am getting very tired of Nintendo's delays though, I wish they would try to do more worldwide launches. 2015 it is I guess..
I've accepted the resolution thing, at least the system will be a lot snappier and have some added graphical effects.
I've accepted the resolution thing, at least the system will be a lot snappier and have some added graphical effects.
Pancakes R Us
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Exactly. I remember some people saying the DSi was the the DS' actual successor and not to expect anything for a while, hah. If anything, Nintendo needs to ride out the system for another year cause they clearly won't have anything new ready for next year. If they didn't do this, 3DS sales would probably fall even further next year. It's already 1m behind YoY in Japan.
ZSaberLink
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There is a spec bump tho (CPU mentioned and likely RAM). Xenoblade only runs on the new 3DS because of it.
It's kind of annoying, but they have done it before with stuff like Game Boy to Game Boy Color, and i guess Apple is getting away with it with their Iphone iterations right now too. It sucks but at least the higher specs are a valid excuse for it being exclusive (sort of).
Besides at least it will have some BC with "old" 3DS games. Hopefully with DS games too, otherwise I won't be upgrading for a while...
Pegosaurus
Banned
sixteen-bit
Member
Will these work with MicroSDXC? or is it limited to MicroSDHC?
Caffeine
Gold Member
circle pad pro has all those controls its a $15 addon you can buy now. gbc and dsi had there own exclusive retail games, but a majority of games still worked on the prior systems. black cart gbc games still run on a gameboy. dsi got enhanced ds carts for some added features.
both gbc and dsi had hardware increases internally to handle ingame camera use or color/sprite animations.
this is a 3dsi lol
the pocket version of gameboy in different color schemes came out a year and a half gameboy color release in NA, and in japan they got a backlit gameboy light in april of 1998 a few months before japans gameboy color release.
No you're not.
I hope Nintendo will market it as a different device successfully this time then.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Should have ditched 3D and upped screen resolution.
Yes, yes. I need more reasons to justify a downgrade from the XL. Please continue.
Pegosaurus
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PurpleEggRoll
Banned
Anyone else feel that releasing this will divide their consumer base? Im sure that not everyone that has a 3ds will go out and purchase the 'new' 3ds. And im sure that consumers will be disappointed to realize that the new game they purchased was not compatible with their old 3ds.
This is not the first time they are doing this. Besides, I bet most games will still be playable on all 3DS machines. There's no way they will ignore the current 40+ million 3DS owners.
Sounds disgusting, not what I want for a stick that's supposed to let me play games like kid Icarus left handed.
Damn, you'd hope they would have improved the screen quality, added way more RAM and a much nicer CPU/GPU, but I think they'll do that for any future handheld.
They need to secure third party development again, very few non-Nintendo games have sold well, and I don't know how many are even in development in terms of AAA quality.
They need to secure third party development again, very few non-Nintendo games have sold well, and I don't know how many are even in development in terms of AAA quality.
Hale-XF11
Member
Can't help but feel like this is too little too late, but I guess we'll see how this plays out. It also feels like yet another half-measure from Nintendo, where they ask for a lot of money for something that only feels like a minor step up from where they're at today. I don't know how I'd go about justifying the purchase of such a system and I doubt they'll offer a trade-in program.
Drilbit777
Member
Curious question but how does the New 3DS compare to the Vita? Is the Vita still more powerful or is it different now?
Caffeine
Gold Member
yes vita is still more powerful.
Drilbit777
Member
Ah I see, well hopefully the new 3DS can go beyond what the old one did since Xenoblade Chronicles isn't playable on the old 3ds.
Glass Rebel
Member
What I'm probably going to do is, get the small white N3DS with purple faceplates. So everybody thinks it's like the butt ugly NA SNES until I open it and reveal the glory of Super Famicom/PAL SNES.
If we're talking a DSi like leap, meaning twice the RAM and 50-100% processor, it's, uh, not even close.
bobawesome
Member
Just wait until they announce the New++ 3DS in 2016!
Usually, stuff that I look at, I know exactly what it is and what it's for. When Nintendo announced Wii U, I knew it was a new console right away. It had a bad name, but it had a clear difference. I'm as "hardcore" (such a stupid term I know but just humor me anyway) with video games as you can get...mostly. XD and I'm sure many people here are as well.
This? This is the first time in a while before someone told me here that I got confused of what I'm looking at. What this product really is and how much of a difference it is between the two products. If someone here didn't tell me that this New 3DS is a new handheld and that games released for it will not be able to play on my regular 3DS, I would have been none the wiser.
That doesn't happen to me a lot. So if someone like ME got confused, what are the chances that little jimmy will get confused too? And that's why such simple yet effective things like naming your product is so huge.
