I'm more curious about sharpness improvement.
Also, my w1070 has a quite big difference of lumunosoty difference between the left and right side of the image.
No idea if it could be a bulb problem.
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I'm more curious about sharpness improvement.
Also, my w1070 has a quite big difference of lumunosoty difference between the left and right side of the image.
No idea if it could be a bulb problem.
EmptySpace
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is there a wall mount that is quite long? i need a mount because the supposed "hole/space" for the tv atop the fireplace is for a 4:3 tv.
as you guys can imagine, the space is quite roomy. i wanna buy a tv but it's not going to fit in and so the solution is to get a mount that'll attack to the wall, but the mount has to be quite long. is that possible and up until what size can that mount handle?
as you guys can imagine, the space is quite roomy. i wanna buy a tv but it's not going to fit in and so the solution is to get a mount that'll attack to the wall, but the mount has to be quite long. is that possible and up until what size can that mount handle?
Duebrithil
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I was looking into the 500-600 range (or less), but it's a flexible limit if the perfect TV for the situation exists. That Panasonic looks nice, but at 42" it's too big: it would also double as a PC monitor and I don't have enough separation to use a really big screen comfortably.
I have a new one at home and saw demos at two different locations prior to purchase. I find your statement highly questionable.
superNESjoe
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I'm in the same boat. I'm using a 37 inch Vizio LCD 1080p from 2009 and while its been a great tv I need something much bigger for my new house and something much better for my next gen systems. I can't spend over 800.
I'd be really interested to see some recommendations.
Questionable in what way?
You calling me a liar?
*knocks over magazine rack*
CrankyJay was with me - he can attest
Demo/Cal Issues:
- Demo reel is some compressed turd LG threw on a thumbdrive. It has MASSIVE macroblocking and other compression artifacts as well as serious aliasing. It would make any TV look like poo.
- Non-calibrated set has some serious black crush. While it's great they're showing off the impressive blacks, the problem is the content has basically zero shadow detail. Think Xbox gamma only far worse. Looks terribly unrealistic and objectively bad.
Issue with the TV itself:
Their panels have a horrible pixel fillrate. Like early Plasma/LCD level. Looks like someone drew around the sub-pixels with a sharpie. If you look at even a moderate distance you can plainly see the screen door effect ... to the point solid colors actually have a grain pattern. While at a typical viewing distance it may no longer be plainly visible, it will and does however artificially accentuate aliasing and other artifacts. So when you combine that with the previously mentioned terrible demo material ... yeah :\
BTW - Have they been able to fix their motion issues via firmware yet?
Crazymoogle
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Can't...really understand what you're saying? What do you mean by a long wallmount? Wide? Deep?
A standard TV mount bracket is basically a long rectangular plate, it has a ton of different holes in it so you can attach it to the wall closer or farther apart (or with screws that aren't perpendicular to each other). The TV then literally hangs off this bracket using two vertical rails that clip the bottom in.
There are different mounts based on size and weight you need.
I had a similar situation, although for going in front of the space for a flat 32" to put in a 50" instead. I had 27 cm depth to overcome and my wall mount can get up to 40 cm. there wasn't that much choice but I think there were some that can extend further.
As for the weight it can handle, check the TV weight and look at specifications for the mounts. Check how wide the back panel is and whether it will fit in, mine is pretty wide, but then again the theoretical weight it's supposed to support is like 50 kg.
hey guys, would appreciate a little help.
Looking for a tv to mostly play video games on but I also watch quite a few movies as well. I have a friend who told me I should go for this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BCPGOD4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
And i've been checking out this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ID2HICA/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Price isn't too big of a concern for me and like I said I want something that will be great for video games and watching blu rays, never watch cable or anything. Would you guys recommend one of these, or something completely different?
Looking for a tv to mostly play video games on but I also watch quite a few movies as well. I have a friend who told me I should go for this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BCPGOD4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
And i've been checking out this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ID2HICA/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Price isn't too big of a concern for me and like I said I want something that will be great for video games and watching blu rays, never watch cable or anything. Would you guys recommend one of these, or something completely different?
VICTORsaurio
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I want to buy a TV, I've been looking at 40/42". I used to have a Samsung 32" LCD TV back home which has been working flawlessly for about 4 years now.
Is Samsung still considered the best TV brand? I know Panasonic, LG and Sony seem to be pretty good as well. But my roommates have an LG TV which I think must be about a year old and it started resetting itself recently, til the point it doesn't even turn on anymore (keeps resetting itself). It seems like there are really good deals on LG sets but I'm not so sure I want to go that route now (though I know this could happen with any brand anyway). I've also seen a lot of deals on Philips TVs.
My biggest concern is reliability, I don't even think I want a smart TV since I'll probably have a PS4 connected most of the time and use it to play games or watch movies/tv shows.
Is Samsung still considered the best TV brand? I know Panasonic, LG and Sony seem to be pretty good as well. But my roommates have an LG TV which I think must be about a year old and it started resetting itself recently, til the point it doesn't even turn on anymore (keeps resetting itself). It seems like there are really good deals on LG sets but I'm not so sure I want to go that route now (though I know this could happen with any brand anyway). I've also seen a lot of deals on Philips TVs.
My biggest concern is reliability, I don't even think I want a smart TV since I'll probably have a PS4 connected most of the time and use it to play games or watch movies/tv shows.
Unknown Soldier
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Samsung has never been considered the best TV brand
Florida_Man_5000
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I hesitantly bought a projector (Epson 5030ub) for my remodeled basement. I worried about lag and sharpness. I haven't regretted my purchase for one second. I owned a DLP tv in past so I'm used to replacing bulbs once in a while.
Stevey
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theSlacker
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True story, when looking for my current TV I got to see a rich guy throw a fit when sales people tried to suggest something other then a Samsung. "It's Samsung or nothing" as he left the area. Well I only assume rich because one of the sales people mentioned that he was wearing a $10k watch after he left, but guess that isn't really important to the story.
EmptySpace
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i meant "deep"...think of it this way, the wall that i'll attach the tv to is a good 2 feet from where i want to place the tv. basically between the wall and where i'll place the tv there's a space...kinda like the tvs that you see at the dentist's office where the "mount" is basically an extended hand. i want that one, since the space i'm supposed to put the tv in is made with a 4:3 tv in mind, so i'll put the tv in front of that space. the supposed hole is big for a 4:3 tv, it literally is a square hole. of course all tvs now are widescreen, so a widescreen won't fit that space. basically i'll put a wall mount on its walls, then put the tv in front of that space.
40 cm is too short. i'm thinking of at least 2 feet. but yeah, it might break. i guess i could just put the wall mount on top of the surface of the "4:3 tv space" instead of attaching it to the wall behind, if i can find a mount where i can rotate or twist the arm extension.
i'm thinking like this:
i guess a 50-in is out of the question? hmmm..
and this is very similar to my space.
but bigger.
Looked up mine's specs and it's 49 cm (~19"). It's a bit smaller version of this:
http://www.wayfair.com/Rocelco-Doub...-for-42-65-Screens-Rocelco-VLDC-ROCE1009.html
Personally I went for a sturdy one because it's carrying a 50" plasma.
This one seems to go for more than 2ft, but you should get a precise measurement before buying whatever. Might be also good to check what the wall behind it is made of.
http://www.wayfair.com/Rocelco-Doub...-for-42-65-Screens-Rocelco-VLDC-ROCE1009.html
Personally I went for a sturdy one because it's carrying a 50" plasma.
This one seems to go for more than 2ft, but you should get a precise measurement before buying whatever. Might be also good to check what the wall behind it is made of.
I'm sure this has been covered, but I'm trying to compare the Sony 950, 840, and 790 TVs (Canadian models).
I can get the 840 at 70", which is massive and gorgeous, but it lacks the triluminous display of the 65" 950. However, I was checking out the 790 in BestBuy which seems to use the same tech as the 840, and it looked gorgeous.
I'm confused as to which models have straight up better pictures. Prices for the 65" 950 and 70" 840 are identical at BestBuy right now. Couldn't find a 950 on display, but the 790 looked stunning. The 840 looked superb, but less spectacular; however that might well be due to calibration. The 790 was being pimped hard by itself at its own display, while the 840 was tucked away on a shelf elsewhere.
If the 65" 950 is a step up from the 840 in terms of PQ I'll sacrifice the size. Similarly, if the 790 is significantly better than the larger models I might choose save the money and go 55". Not certain what I can get away with in my space anyway, but I'd like to know if the larger models are even options. I'd be using it for gaming and movies equally.
Sidenote: the LG OLED is jaw-dropping.
I can get the 840 at 70", which is massive and gorgeous, but it lacks the triluminous display of the 65" 950. However, I was checking out the 790 in BestBuy which seems to use the same tech as the 840, and it looked gorgeous.
I'm confused as to which models have straight up better pictures. Prices for the 65" 950 and 70" 840 are identical at BestBuy right now. Couldn't find a 950 on display, but the 790 looked stunning. The 840 looked superb, but less spectacular; however that might well be due to calibration. The 790 was being pimped hard by itself at its own display, while the 840 was tucked away on a shelf elsewhere.
If the 65" 950 is a step up from the 840 in terms of PQ I'll sacrifice the size. Similarly, if the 790 is significantly better than the larger models I might choose save the money and go 55". Not certain what I can get away with in my space anyway, but I'd like to know if the larger models are even options. I'd be using it for gaming and movies equally.
Sidenote: the LG OLED is jaw-dropping.
Mattlikewhoa
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Well I've somehow talked my wife into letting me use the spare bedroom as a HT. That means I'm back in the projector game baby! WOOOOOOO I'm super excited. I'm not going to go super ham as we are looking to buy another house, so I'm not finishing the basement till we move into our "forever" home.
It's been a while since I've had a project.
Have you maxed out the lens shift? Sometimes the image brightness can be effected on DLP models if it's maxed. Also check to see that it's flush (no raised sides). And NEVER use keystone correction... EVER!
Solid choice my man! Those units are super bright! It was one of the better 3D units that I had seen on my last projector demo.
My XBR8 broke down twice. The third time I decided to jump ship to Samsung, and it's been wonderful...
It's been a while since I've had a project.
Have you maxed out the lens shift? Sometimes the image brightness can be effected on DLP models if it's maxed. Also check to see that it's flush (no raised sides). And NEVER use keystone correction... EVER!
Solid choice my man! Those units are super bright! It was one of the better 3D units that I had seen on my last projector demo.
My XBR8 broke down twice. The third time I decided to jump ship to Samsung, and it's been wonderful...
drhankmccoyphd
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I'm looking for a gaming tv for my spare bedroom for ps4. I'm looking for 32" great picture quality, preferably more than 2 Hdmi ports. Don't need smart apps or 3d and I'd like to stay under $300. Possible?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
With some of those stipulations, I'd be looking at computer monitors instead of TVs.
I'm torn between the following sets for primarily gaming and television. Essentially, I want a 55 Inch LED set. Smart TV/3D are not necessary features whatsoever.
LG Electronics 55LB5900 55-Inch 1080p 120Hz LED TV: Cheapest Price, but only 2 HDMI ports.
Vizio M Series 55 Inch. I currently have a Vizio and I like it, however, it's obviously more expensive then my other option.
Does anyone have any feedback on either of these sets?
LG Electronics 55LB5900 55-Inch 1080p 120Hz LED TV: Cheapest Price, but only 2 HDMI ports.
Vizio M Series 55 Inch. I currently have a Vizio and I like it, however, it's obviously more expensive then my other option.
Does anyone have any feedback on either of these sets?
Exploratory
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Anyone know a good 32 inch TV?
Mattlikewhoa
Member
I would actually send it in to get serviced, as DLP's have a sealed light path. There might be some leakage in there.
And seriously, no keystone correction...
...EVER!...
It effects the image quality.
I do actually have quite a lot of small leaks of light reaching around the room. Never thought about it as a defect, I thought it was "normal". Should I be worried ?
Hope this TV is as good as it sounds. Just ordered it since my Plasma cant be fixed. Arriving this Friday!
Crazymoogle
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It's great. Love it. Virtually no bezel by TV standards, great picture, great game mode.
Still need to do some pics but man, need to find some way to not make everything look like a cable nest...
Mattlikewhoa
Member
Some is fine... Unless you're watching in a black box, it's expected. I would be more worried about one side of the image being brighter then the other.
Recently my Panasonic Plasma died and long story short I bought this tv as replacement.
Panasonic Viera 60 inch LED. Model No TH-60A430A. To be honest so far I'm not very happy with it. Bit of an impulse buy.
Anyway I'm not happy with the current settings and nothing I change to looks that great. I've tried searching for some good settings but haven't had any luck. Can anyone please help as it is driving me crazy. Thanks.
Panasonic Viera 60 inch LED. Model No TH-60A430A. To be honest so far I'm not very happy with it. Bit of an impulse buy.
Anyway I'm not happy with the current settings and nothing I change to looks that great. I've tried searching for some good settings but haven't had any luck. Can anyone please help as it is driving me crazy. Thanks.
Unknown Soldier
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Panasonic didn't start making good LCD TVs until this year's 4K models. They never had to before nor did they want to, because you know they used to sell plasmas.
Their 8500 series plasma has been considered by some to be the best tv out right now along with that LG oled.
ACH1LL3US
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Yup, both are the best emmissive displays you can buy new in stores right now.
Still using the LG Oled 9300 as a gaming monitor and loving it!!! Went back and forth yesterday between it and Kuro I have and the differences are night and day, pun intended. Daytime watching the blacks stay jet black and at night its dark grey for the Kuro vs jet black on the LG.
Cant wait to try Driveclub next week on it. It handles 30fps content way better then the Kuro, way way less blurring, no phosphor lag. O am at a loss for words here... still.
LG stated yesterday they have NO worries of burn in or image retention on the production models, they just in case built in a screen wash that removes all retention when the tv is in stand by. I havent had a lick of image retention on my gaming this whole time, I have over 200 hrs on it so far.
Anyone have questions just let me know.
Hey guys, I'm in the market for a new TV and need a bit of help.
I currently have my eye on the Sony KDL-42W705B. Or perhaps its slightly smaller and cheaper counterpart the Sony KDL-40W600B.
They both seem to have received positive reviews when it comes picture quality, input lag and price. They cost about 550 and 450 respectively.
I would mainly use them for (nextgen) gaming. Through PC/Steam that is. I might pick up a PS4 down the line but it wouldn't be for a while. I'm thinking things like 4k are a bit excessive at the moment and way out of my price range. I'm also thinking of skipping 3D for now unless someone can convince me otherwise.
I'm of course open to other TV suggestions as well if you can convince me why those are better!
I have a question regarding those 2 Sony TV's though. They're a bit vague when it comes to how much Hz they're displaying. Some spec sites seem to list them at 200Hz while others only seem to list them at 50Hz...? I'm a little confused here, but I'd like to think I should go for 60Hz at the least, right?
Anyway I thought I'd ask you guys for some help first before I plunge down ~500-600 euro's and end up with the wrong TV.
Thanks in advance, I appreciate the help guys!
I currently have my eye on the Sony KDL-42W705B. Or perhaps its slightly smaller and cheaper counterpart the Sony KDL-40W600B.
They both seem to have received positive reviews when it comes picture quality, input lag and price. They cost about 550 and 450 respectively.
I would mainly use them for (nextgen) gaming. Through PC/Steam that is. I might pick up a PS4 down the line but it wouldn't be for a while. I'm thinking things like 4k are a bit excessive at the moment and way out of my price range. I'm also thinking of skipping 3D for now unless someone can convince me otherwise.
I'm of course open to other TV suggestions as well if you can convince me why those are better!
I have a question regarding those 2 Sony TV's though. They're a bit vague when it comes to how much Hz they're displaying. Some spec sites seem to list them at 200Hz while others only seem to list them at 50Hz...? I'm a little confused here, but I'd like to think I should go for 60Hz at the least, right?
Anyway I thought I'd ask you guys for some help first before I plunge down ~500-600 euro's and end up with the wrong TV.
Thanks in advance, I appreciate the help guys!
Your best bet is the Toshiba 32L2300U for gaming. $311 on Amazon and it's perfect for gaming with an input lag of 28ms, which puts it not quite at CRT levels, but close enough that only expert level SF or DMC players could tell the difference.
My own TV is the Toshiba 40L3400U, which is the above TV's bigger brother. 40" instead of 32" inches, same input lag, and less than seventy bucks more. I'm eventually going to upgrade to the glorious 55L6200U (possibly right around Christmas), which is the 55" biggest brother of this line and has the same silky smooth 28ms input lag.
If you're going to look elsewhere, keep http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/ in mind when shopping. For the most part recent TVs have been pretty good about getting input lag down to reasonable levels... Anything made 2013 or later is probably going to be sub-50ms, which means you'll only be a frame behind in 30fps games and 2 frames behind in 60fps games.
Some of the earlier TVs, though... *shudder*. Playing Guitar Hero on a flatscreen back in the day made the game practically unplayable.
If I understand correctly, the W800b is the same panel as the W840b - so all the praise I'm reading for the W800b would apply equally to both models? Glad you're loving it, because I remember the two of us buying Panasonic plasmas at about the same time a few years back. I'm leery about going LED, but I'm still rocking a 720p display; and now that most games are 1080p and 90% of the movies and TV shows I watch are on Netflix, it's time I upgraded.
I'm zeroing in on the 70" W840b. Seems like the best set on the market at that size in terms of PQ: only negative I'm finding is 3D. I'd like decent 3D, but I'll trade it for 2D PQ and size. But should I be looking at anything else before I pull the trigger?
hoverboarder
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Finally bought my dream TV. Sony 4K XBR55X850B. It has HDMI 2.0, HVEC/H.265 codecs, 3d, smart, built in backflip camera, very low input lag, etc etc. So good. I'm in love.
Watching Planet Earth blurays about deep ocean and the blacks are BLACK. Upscaling is outstanding. Also have tried PS3 Uncharted 3. My girlfriend and friends are blown away. I can't believe I'm 28 and finally I own an XBR.
Watching Planet Earth blurays about deep ocean and the blacks are BLACK. Upscaling is outstanding. Also have tried PS3 Uncharted 3. My girlfriend and friends are blown away. I can't believe I'm 28 and finally I own an XBR.
Yup. I got through MGS3 on it switched to a platformer. I noticed some latency problems when I started missing the timing on jumps, realized I forgot to switch it into Game. Switched it and had no problems with latency since. Although I can't tell you what the actual numbers are.
Also games look AMAZING on it. I highly recommend. I switch it back into standard for movies etc. The multiple zone back-lighting is amazing.
Finally bought my dream TV. Sony 4K XBR55X850B. It has HDMI 2.0, HVEC/H.265 codecs, 3d, smart, built in backflip camera, very low input lag, etc etc. So good. I'm in love.
Watching Planet Earth blurays about deep ocean and the blacks are BLACK. Upscaling is outstanding. Also have tried PS3 Uncharted 3. My girlfriend and friends are blown away. I can't believe I'm 28 and finally I own an XBR.
congrats, you have made it bro
Crazymoogle
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I believe the 840B is the Canadian equivalent to the 850B, which is the min spec for a TV of that size...AKA yes, basically a larger version of the 800B panel. It's good. Maybe there are some minor spec differences with the bigger panel but everything I've read says its the same spec as the 790B/800B, just bigger and with the wedge shape. (But at that screen size...the wedge works)
Anyway, Sony's game mode on this years models is great so you can just flip that on and forget about input lag issues.
Yeah, my Panasonic PX60U is on kijiji now. It's in perfect condition but it's just too big. At 42" it weighs a little bit more than double (!!) that of 55" Sony. And the bezel is just enormous. (If I owned a house I guess it would be a spare room TV, but no such luxury in an apartment)
I heard the 3D is not perfect but I don't have any 3D BRs nor the interest in really pushing that. It's like 3DS...I just turn that part off.
Sounds good to me. This new era of TVs is pretty interesting. The Sonys have a firmware update you can install over ethernet or WiFi (!!!) from the TV on first boot. They can access virtually the same SEN video/TV store as your PS4, and even have a default media player that does DLNA. I don't think it does any of them great - the PS3 has better file format compatibility, and the store speed is pretty slow compared to the PS4 - but just having those elements is awesome. Yes, Netflix is preinstalled too, though again runs with a bit more lag than PS3. Usable in a pinch but not great.
I understand that Samsung and LG have much better web features but if you're mostly using your PVR or game console then you really want a great TV first and Sony delivered. It remembers picture settings per-input so you can always have your PS4 on Game mode, your TV on whatever. There's 4 (!!) HDMI with any company's model in this spec range, which is a huge improvement from the old days.
That being said, most people just aren't that sensitive to input lag and will play 20ms vs. 40ms the same way. So if you feel like there's a great Samsung option out there it's probably a good deal too.
WheelHoss1
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60". I heard you need 65", but it's not true. We couldn't fit bigger than 60", and it's night and day. We're watching Breaking Bad in 4K right now, and it's like seeing it for the first time. The distance shots are so resolved and clean in a way blu-ray never is. And the close-ups. . . .
It really is great. Because of the tiny bezel the TV takes up much less space than my old 50 inch Panasonic. Kinda wish I bought the 55 inch version!
I would have considered it a after one or two rounds of price drops but they increased the price at the last minute so now new models announced at CES will likely be coming out by the time pricing comes down. It will be interesting to see what Panasonic and maybe Sony can do with the same LG 4K OLED panels next year.
Are there rumours that they are licensing LGs panels for use?
Im really struggling to decide whether or not to buy the 55EC9300 lol
If there is a Sony or Panny next year with their own video processing and motion enhancement, I would feel dumb for getting the LG