We get a lot of them. More than we were getting last gen.
Forza Horizon 2: DF Frame Rate Test - It's a Doozy...
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We get a lot of them. More than we were getting last gen.
MightyHedgehog
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Forza 6 is likely due next year if the on-off schedule of Motorsport/Horizon everyone expects works out. I don't see it not having 60fps.
Why would they abandon a 1+ million franchise for one that struggled selling half of that? Blur was bad with its luck dependant gameplay. Racing games should be about racing and not about someone hitting you with a gadget in the last corner.
Fair enough, I guess I had different expectations coming off of the 360, and I may disagree with others on those expectations. My reaction was that I feel like at least this level of performance for a racer should be a given, so I was not as seeing it as as much of an accomplishment as some others. I'm sorry if that rubbed people the wrong way with the wording, as it was not meant to incite some sort of system war nonsense. Thank you for not responding with "lol, console warz" or something like that.
It's a 30fps racing game. Having zero drops should be the bare minimum expectation, not some grand achievement to be admired.
While I agree, baby steps.
Last gen was riddled with sub-30fps sub-720p garbage. Full HD and rock solid 30fps is a welcome change.
Kssio_Aug
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Yup, I believe FM6 will be 60fps again.
Besides, with such solid frame-rate I would not mind if they do it at 30fps and more stunning visuals. BUT, yeah, I know that many many many players prefer the 60fps when it comes to simulators, I respect that.
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frontieruk
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No this reply is answering the question, saying
"This isn't really a case of the Xbox One hardware shining, as much as the developers work in spite of it. So I guess in some ways it is an accomplishment for the developer."
Is a troll and doing exactly what I'm decrying, stating that people take this to seriously is not but hey you backseat mod.
I agree with you that it should be a given... but it really isn't at this point. Forza's solid performance (whether at 60fps or 30fps) stands out because so few other similar games achieve the same. If the average 30fps racer wasn't dropping frames, then the reactions in this thread would be very different (much like how you don't see a ton of praise for each fighter that holds a solid 60fps... because we actually do expect that).
How is this trolling? It's my opinion and experience as a former 360 owner, and current XBO owner. And is it that surprising? If the XBO has established something up to this point is that to get fantastic visual, something is sacrificed on another end. Or if performance is sacrificed, than you know you're getting a good-looking game. It's logic, based on an established pattern.
Night and day? There is difference, but I wouldn't call it night and day. I played it on Thursday with my nephew (I got it for him when FH was $10 a few weeks back), and unless he has a superior TV, they are both very good. Maybe I need to update my plasma TV? Or maybe PG is just a great developer by putting out a very good 360 game.
My lowly screenshot, since MS hasn't unshackled the screenshot option.
Screenshot I found of FH on the 360.
Based on the DC threads, I guess I shouldn't be surprised people are defensive about FH2.
LookAtMeGo
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Great job PG!
For some reason we can't get a damn racing game that has 60 fps, and racing games it matters more than some other genres.
(Forza 5 is apprarently 60 -- my experience is limited to need for speed rivals 30 fps, FH2 30 fps, and upcoming driveclub 30 fps)
Sho_Nuff82
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Every racing game should meat the minimum expectation of adhering to its target frame rate without dropping any frames, yet these days very few do. The fact that this is one of them, and it's achieving that while being an open-world racer with superb IQ should certainly be admired.
Project Cars will be 60fps too (and GT should probably be actual 60fps next time around too). I guess devs (and probably gamers as well) don't feel that 60fps is necessary for racers if they're not going for simulation. I honestly don't blame then when you consider how FH2 and DC are generally being received, compared to Forza 5, where everyone was quick to point out any graphical shortcoming it had.
ryutaro's mama
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Vestax is trying so hard to make fetch happen.
TheAdmiester
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People have a right to be defensive when you're coming in and saying something that's entirely, and even objectively, wrong about the game. Even trolls try to keep relatively realistic posts just to anger people, so I'm not even going to give you the honour of calling you a troll.
Night and day? There is difference, but I wouldn't call it night and day. I played it on Thursday with my nephew (I got it for him when FH was $10 a few weeks back), and unless he has a superior TV, they are both very good. Maybe I need to update my plasma TV? Or maybe PG is just a great developer by putting out a very good 360 game.
My lowly screenshot, since MS hasn't unshackled the screenshot option.
Screenshot I found of FH on the 360.
Put in Forza Horizon on the 360 and play it/see it with your own eyes after playing hours of Horizon 2. It's a night and day difference. 720p vs. 1080p is pretty significant alone but then add in lighting improvements, textures, and other details and it truly looks like a next gen jump (at least to me).
Ray Wonder
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Hahaha damn. That's night and day.
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Forza Horizon is still a beautiful looking game, but it looks like Horizon 2 about as much as Killzone 3 looks like Killzone: Shadowfall.
And yes, calling a game Forza Horizon 1.5 is very much trolling.
Fortinbras
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This thread delivers.
thelastword
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Have we seen footage of the 360 version? I have a feeling it will look pretty good in comparison.
there's a lot of 360 footage around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fynYiCZiObY
it's really night and day
ninjablade
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How is this trolling? It's my opinion and experience as a former 360 owner, and current XBO owner. And is it that surprising? If the XBO has established something up to this point is that to get fantastic visual, something is sacrificed on another end. Or if performance is sacrificed, than you know you're getting a good-looking game. It's logic, based on an established
My lowly screenshot, since MS hasn't unshackled the screenshot option.
Screenshot I found of FH on the 360.
Based on the DC threads, I guess I shouldn't be surprised people are defensive about FH2.
there is a night and day difference in those pics, let alone in motion.
DidntKnowJack
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A little off topic, but has anyone played the 360 version of FH2? I don't have an XB1, so that would be the version I'd have to get. Just wondering if it's decent.
thelastword
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Textures, rez and lighting seems to be better on the XBONE version, I really need to to look at video properly instead of skimming though. That video seems like the sense of speed is almost in-existent though.
Right. Fight on, warrior.
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It's also far ahead in terms of geometry, alpha effects and so on. They're running on two different engines, one of them optimized for Xbox 360, and the other one for Xbox One. The differences are quite apparent: http://youtu.be/PaZhuK8iLeM
EDIT: Sorry, I posted the wrong link initially.
Not even an article yet? They have the game for almost two weeks.
Also not a single framerate test or analysis with a lot of direct feed footage released since E3.
I guess making the framerate test of Sunset Overdrive from youtube quality videos was more clickbait worth.
but dat DF MS bias... you know. lol
Also not a single framerate test or analysis with a lot of direct feed footage released since E3.
I guess making the framerate test of Sunset Overdrive from youtube quality videos was more clickbait worth.
but dat DF MS bias... you know. lol
It's hard to be too impressed by that when we were seeing consoles running games like Burnout Paradise last gen at 60fps though.
The 360 version compares very favourably in this shot imo. The actual car model in particular doesn't look very different between the two shots.
One would think the XBO was barely any more powerful than the WiiU if one were to buy into the hyperbole about how "weak" the console supposedly is. That went right out the door the minute i saw Ryse in action, not to mention Horizon 2. I think Quantum Break looks great as well. The XBO will have some great looking games down the line despite not being the most powerful. That much is for sure.
It always amazes me just how quickly they turn to shit too. I mean barely off the first page.
Indeed. I own a PS4 now as well and have played games like inFAMOUS: Second Son. But oddly enough, the best looking games I have played so far this gen are still on Xbox One in Ryse and Forza Horizon 2. Go figure.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Meanwhile, huge differences between the PS4 and Xbox in this comparison, right?
God, PS4 version comes up short of course, but the Xbox version really does look terrible in this particular comparison.
Miles Quaritch
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It's Percy. Some fights are better left alone.
NullPointer
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Its more than just another 30fps game. Most 30fps console games aren't locked down, and somebody can correct me if I'm mistaken, but the physics engine is running at 60fps and the game is optimized to minimize any input latency.
The end result feels so much smoother and more responsive than other 30fps games. If anything it sets the standard upon which other 30fps games should be judged.
K.O
It's definitely very good. Because the game still plays like silk with those visuals and clean IQ.
When considering those two pieces of hardware aren't from seperate console generations, yes definitely, that is a significant visual difference in that particular comparison shot.
Or are you going to tell me those are two directly comparable instances of graphical comparison shots? I can't help but think you didn't consider this one too carefully.
Pretty much this.
Kurt Angle
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I want playground to make their own game instead of being turn10s b team. new ip or project gotham
IMO both horizon and horizon 2 are far more impressive than turn 10s output during that time
PG guys deserve their credit
IMO both horizon and horizon 2 are far more impressive than turn 10s output during that time
PG guys deserve their credit
SkyTurnsRed
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Fora Horizon was so impressive on the 360. Glad to see they're keeping up to that standard. I don't have an XBone but this is probably one of the first games I'd buy if I did.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
What are the significant differences that make the Xbox version terrible in that particular example?