Zombie James
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If that's the case then Ubisoft has another controversy on their hands. When people say 900p they take it to mean 1600x900 (16:9 ratio). If it's 1440x900 that would be a 10% decrease over proper 900p.
Assassin's Creed "Parity": Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One
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If that's the case then Ubisoft has another controversy on their hands. When people say 900p they take it to mean 1600x900 (16:9 ratio). If it's 1440x900 that would be a 10% decrease over proper 900p.
I doubt the majority of this thread will be playing it at any resolution.
Crossing Eden
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He's referring to the fact that the game is beautiful when it's not compressed as hell by youtube footage.
soul creator
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my brain still can't even process the idea that the quote was actually a serious comment, lol.
I find it really hard to believe that the developers had the game running fine at 1080p for the PS4, then had a meeting or something and said "you know what, we should probably avoid message board debates, so let's knock that resolution down", and then the engine team made that decision.
I find it really hard to believe that the developers had the game running fine at 1080p for the PS4, then had a meeting or something and said "you know what, we should probably avoid message board debates, so let's knock that resolution down", and then the engine team made that decision.
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Gaffercake
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It's quite clearly 16:9, those black bars are the result of his laptop's 1440x900 resolution, it's a non-direct print screen shot.
Pixel shimmering happens regardless of resolution. You can lessen it with AA and higher resolution, but it always happens. It does affect my enjoyment of a game, I'm not the one who said it didn't. That said, the chunkiness of the pixels being shimmered does not lessen my enjoyment further until the resolution dips below 900p. I don't understand why that is so hard to grasp.
For instance:
Destiny has pixel shimmer at 1080p, but the pixels are tiny and I have to be looking for it.
BF4 has pixel shimmer at 900p, but the pixels aren't that big so it isn't always noticeable unless the light source is bouncing off a gun or background just so, which is very rare, so it's a non issue.
Killer Instinct has pixel shimmer at 720p and the pixels are so fat you can't help but notice.(especially on Fulgore... Ugh)
Does that make it more understandable?
ioriyagami
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Sorry, I misunderstood you. I thought you wrote staying beyond the ideal distance would give you the benefit OF contrast aliasing
I think I understand what you mean. Basically, even if you are farther than the distance in which you can appreciate per-pixel details in your screen, you'd still benefit from an overall better image quality distilled from better aliasing (and I assume better _any_ post-process FX -even if working on downsampled versions of the 1080p framebuffer- not just aliasing?) just because it will be working on twice as much information as a 720p framebuffer.
I wonder if I would be able to appreciate that difference myself, though (definitely not with my current non-Full-HD 32'' screen
).CyberPunked
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That's not even relevant.
But we're talking about PARITY man. What are we talking about? PARITY? We're talking about PARITY, man. We're talking about PARITY. We're talking about PARITY. We ain't talking about the game. We're talking about PARITY, man.
thelastcrusader
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You get it man. You get it! The game might look phenomenal at 900p but that's not the point.That's not even relevant.
But we're talking about PARITY man. What are we talking about? PARITY? We're talking about PARITY, man. We're talking about PARITY. We're talking about PARITY. We ain't talking about the game. We're talking about PARITY, man.
MoonsaultSlayer
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I don't want the discussion to die but at the same time, until someone comes forward, there's nothing to talk about. I wonder if Sony approached them or if they realize it was a deal and stayed away.
Gave me a good laugh.That's not even relevant.
But we're talking about PARITY man. What are we talking about? PARITY? We're talking about PARITY, man. We're talking about PARITY. We're talking about PARITY. We ain't talking about the game. We're talking about PARITY, man.
funkystudent
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IGN says the resolution doesn't matter. Ubisoft knows best.
Oh and Please visit IGN for our exclusive unboxing of some expensive piece of Assassins Creed swag Ubisoft sent us
http://ie.ign.com/videos/2014/10/07/assassins-creed-unity-phantom-blade-unboxing
Oh and Please visit IGN for our exclusive unboxing of some expensive piece of Assassins Creed swag Ubisoft sent us
http://ie.ign.com/videos/2014/10/07/assassins-creed-unity-phantom-blade-unboxing
You should put that comment in the comments on youtube lol.
SEGAvangelist
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I didn't notice crushed blacks in the footage shown. Also, I haven't come across gamma issues since the early launch titles and Titanfall. Hopefully it's now a thing of the past (though I wish Capcom would go back and fix DR3).
OccamsLightsaber
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Probably rendered at 900p
It doesnt even look like 900p to me, the face detail is nearly as bad as standard def tv imo.
thelastcrusader
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I stopped giving IGN clicks a long time ago because of this ridiculous shit. I wish Ubisoft would update us on a "1080p" patch but until then they can eat me.
CyberPunked
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If that footage is genuinely XO footage, I'm quite excited to see what PC footage looks like. Especially with HBAO+ and Tessellation.
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One thing will happen for certain: Ubisoft developers are going with PR guys to every interview from now on.
Omnipunctual Godot
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Ugh, the capes. That dithering/paper thin width is pretty ridiculous for a current-gen game.
TriniTrin
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It is mind boggling to me that they said that in an interview the way they did. Like usually the devs have tact about saying things that may look bad on the game or them. The nonchalant way he said "to avoid controversy and stuff" was hilarious to me, he must have truly thought it was not a big deal to consumers..
PeregrinSe7en
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well see this is the thing, you may be A-OK with mediocrity, but i'm not, as well as many others posting here. i bought the superior hardware and i demand better than this.
i will not support mediocre efforts like what Ubisoft is trying to do.
What was mind-boggling and crazy to me is that some people in this very thread argued that it was a "language barrier" or that he was "just making a snarky comment/joke".
Well a PC would be "superior hardware" which i do believe the game is coming out on
That doesn't change the fact that the PS4 hardware is still superior to the X1.
So i assume an IQ of less than 50 is required to get employment at ign after seeing this, theres no other explanation apart from trolling the audience.
AgentP
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I listened to this earlier. Was suck a bunch of fallacies rolled together. If game A looks nice at 900P, 900P must be good and there is no reason to go higher. Except the same game at 1080P with 44% more pixels will look better! I can't believe all three of those "journalist" mist such obvious logic. They are trying to be diplomatic and rise above console wars, yet they fail logic 101.
Well the N64 was more Powerful than the PS1
The OG Xbox was more powerful than the PS2
The PS3 was more powerful than the 360
That wasn't my point. Nor are we discussing anything aside from AC: Unity and the forced parity. The person you were replying to was demanding a SKU of the game commensurate to the hardware he purchased, and not that of an inferior product just because the software is available for both (or whatever reason Ubisoft is proferring now to gamers).
artsi
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I think that "and stuff" alone shouldn't be in any PR guy's vocabulary ever.
I'm not in PR, but I'd have said something like "The game has very advanced visual features never seen in Assassin's Creed before, so unfortunately we had to make some compromises with the resolution on consoles. We're still working on optimization and recently we've managed to bring the Xbox One to the same resolution as PS4 which is currently 900p. It's still a subject to change, but I'm sure everyone will be pleased with the final outcome."
I mean I'm glad that he sucks so this whole parity fiasco came out, but someone somewhere must regret recruiting that guy.
Omnipunctual Godot
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And they all had superior looking multiplats, except in the areas where the hardware was actually weaker. What is your point?
Also, the PS3 was not more powerful than the 360. It had a better CPU and a better disc medium, but neither of those made it the uncontested better console. The 360 had a number of advantages over the PS3's hardware. It wasn't nearly as cut and dry as the hardware differences in this generation.
TAJ
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N64 was gimped by the lack of a CD-ROM drive,
Xbox had better versions of almost every multiplat so I don't even know what you're trying to say there.
PS3 had a worse GPU and was limited by its split RAM pool.
PS4 is almost literally an Xbone Turbo.
BREAKING NEWS! THIS JUST IN!!! PC's ARE GRAPHICALLY SUPERIOR TO CONSOLES!!!
Is that it? This is NeoGaf. I'm sure the newest junior here understands this.
thelastcrusader
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Or they're just sponsored by Microsoft just like Ubisoft's sellout ass.
travisbickle
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I assume game development is like most business where you can have a single person high up in management make a decision and everyone just falls in line, rather than the people who are logically best positioned, in this case the engine team/coders, make an informed choice.
Crossing Eden
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Your assumption is quite off base.
Crossing Eden
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I don't understand this, Ubisoft has been partnered with Sony for the past few years, with nearly every game getting exclusive content on the playstation console that sometimes never was put on xbox. Sony for once doesn't partner with them and suddenly they're sellouts? Or are you just doing the baseless specualtion that "M$ moneyhatted Ubisoft into parity" thing? ._.
thelastcrusader
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Crappy hour long exclusive content is whatever. We're talking about gimping the entire game for their sponsor. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Crossing Eden
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Proof of that besides baseless speculation? Genuinely curious.
If you compromise yourself or your vision for some kind of pay out, then yes, you are a sell out. The situations aren't analogous.
Windom Earle
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Journalistic integrity right here. I feel this is almost thread worthy but I don't want to give them the clicks.
Crossing Eden
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Once again, does anyone have any proof that Microsoft forced Ubisoft into parity besides baseless speculation?
Absolutely disgusting.
Impeccable
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Well, no ... no one has proof.
I wouldn't stretch to calling it baseless speculation, though either.
IGN has been a joke for the longest time now.
Doctor_Thomas
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Lets look at the facts:
Assassin's Creed 4
PS4 - 1080p, XB1 900p
WatchDogs
PS4 - 900p, XB1 - 792p
Assassin's Creed: Unity:
PS4 - 900p, XB1 - 900p
In terms of resolution, the PS4, on Ubisoft's engines, has been higher than the XB1's resolution. Now, a game that was targetting 1080p is now 900p on both. In addition, we have a rep saying the parity was CPU bound and to avoid debates. I am not buying they managed to get the XB1 to match the PS4 resolution on their engine, but not making any significant increase on the PS4 side.
Assassin's Creed 4
PS4 - 1080p, XB1 900p
WatchDogs
PS4 - 900p, XB1 - 792p
Assassin's Creed: Unity:
PS4 - 900p, XB1 - 900p
In terms of resolution, the PS4, on Ubisoft's engines, has been higher than the XB1's resolution. Now, a game that was targetting 1080p is now 900p on both. In addition, we have a rep saying the parity was CPU bound and to avoid debates. I am not buying they managed to get the XB1 to match the PS4 resolution on their engine, but not making any significant increase on the PS4 side.
Windom Earle
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Yup. We don't know but it leaves a bad taste. Just like the whole Destiny parity thing seems even more suspect than before now. Will we ever be able to prove anything? Probably not, but it's great that the Ubi guy fucked up here.
Crossing Eden
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Well it's quite baseless considering that the only known parity clause from Microsoft is the one that states that indies have to release at the same time. Which is now done on a case by case basis and is apparently more lenient.
Also of the three Assassin's Creed: Unity is the one with Microsoft co-marketing money...
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