OccamsLightsaber
Regularly boosts GAF member count to cry about 'right wing gaf' - Voter #3923781
It's possible that Evo underestimated how demanding their game is. It's also possible that its a problem you can't throw servers at.
Driveclub PS Plus Edition Delayed by Server Issues
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It's possible that Evo underestimated how demanding their game is. It's also possible that its a problem you can't throw servers at.
Monster Zero
Junior Member
Are we supposed to believe that EVO/Sony could not predict that releasing a free game to 1st party starved masses would cause server issues, not to mention the console with tons of users on it. Nobody could see this coming? They had A LOT of time, what the hell have they been doing?
Mr. PlayStation
Member
PS+ Edition, we're waiting!
Cyborg
Member
I tweeted Rushy about that but no answer . He doesn't respond to critic only positieve things. He and Evo lost my respect like DICE did with BF4.
autoduelist
Member
Without knowing the cause, it's really hard to tell. As I've mentioned before, there could just be a bug that causes PS4s to constantly ping the servers or otherwise effectively do an accidental DDOS. That wouldn't be on PSN, that would be on Evo.
We'll likely never know. I tend to think it's more likely DC's fault than PSN's, but without knowing specific details it's mostly just a coin flip of 'who do i feel like blaming today'.
Fortunately, I'm patient, so not really bothered. A week without DC isn't the end of the world, I'm still buried in Natural Doctrine (vita) and Shadow of Mordor (ps4).
TheMan
Member
i don't remember there being a lot of issues, but that was over a decade ago, so i might be misremembering.
Wow that is not a good look. Problems and mistakes are inevitable; we're all human. But when you don't address the issues head on that's way worse than the initial problem.
So do the people who purchased get $10 off too?
Pestilence11
Member
No updates on Twitter or Facebook in almost 24 hours on either the online for people that bought it or the PS+ version.
Yeah definitely should if they decide to offer that.
Do people really expect the PS+ version to launch when people are out of the office for the weekends (I.E. non work days)? I'm not expecting it until next Tuesday at earliest personally. Also maintenance is just two days away so you'd get the game only not to be able to play it online in two days.
Cyborg
Member
He had an extra year to fix his mistakes. The reviews are brutal to the game but I was planning to support his work by buying the game (even if I dont buy games that score that low)
But these problems are just ridiculous for a launch game, there is no excuse for this!
EatinOlives
Member
Well, people rightfully expected the PS+ version when the game launched, as Sony and Evo promised officially. Every minute past that is simple incompetence.
For Evo's sake, the PS+ version needs to launch ASAP, regardless of whether or not it's the weekend.
autoduelist
Member
Are updates every 24 hours really necessary? I mean, it's the weekend, and there may not be anything to 'update' in the first place.
Daffy Duck
Member
You'd think considering the severity of this issue they wouldn't take the weekend off.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I would think given the fact that their game is dysfunctional and killing their reputation, they shouldn't be taking a weekend off. Every minute they don't work on the game, the worse this gets. Not just for the individual consumer, but for the game as a whole. This is an ostensibly "social" game, and not being online is going to kill the community. Can't see why you'd take a weekend off with your jobs possibly at stake.
Yeah I'm really baffled. Presumably extra millions of dollars and countless man hours were invested in delaying the product to improve it. I mean they are at the finish line, why would they undermine all that work by not keeping an open line of communication with the players? Twitter and PSblog posts are free!
It may already be at the point where the game has a reputation that is unsalvagable, I don't know, but you'd think they'd want to do everything in their power to avoid that.
Pestilence11
Member
I wouldn't say it's necessary but the weekend means nothing when they launched a game long touted for its social features and the online hardly works at all.
Yeah that is definitely true. You paid full price so you deserve to have all of your problems addressed first. Sigh, it's going to be really tough for Sony to fix this issue short of just plopping down millions to put up new servers immediately, but I just don't see them doing that just to accommodate freeloading players like me.
They really should have just not promised the PS+ version in the first place.
Agent X
Member
Personally, that's what I expect, seeing as it's the weekend, and Monday is a planned maintenance. However, just out of courtesy for their PlayStation Plus customers, they need to step up to the plate and make a statement ASAP, to explain the reason for the continued delay and offer a realistic expectation of when the PS+ edition will finally become available.
If it's not going to be for another week or two, then I don't have a problem with that--but they really ought to come out and say that now, instead of giving their customers the silent treatment. Offering a statement would show concern and respect for their customers. Hiding and dodging the issue shows cowardice.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
What an embarrassment
pr0cs
Member
They should never released the game if it wasn't ready. This whole game reeks of amature hour
Cyborg
Member
If they dont fix the game and release the PS+ edition by Monday I will be at that point. I wont buy it and just let them dig their own grave.
Im sorry for my reactions but Im just fcking pissed. You delay a game by a year and yet you are not incompetent to deliver a good game with working servers.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Im starting to give up about the free version, and to feel sorry for those who still cant play online. Cant believe how Evolution messed up with this game release! If thats their preparation to release their racing game of dreams then I cant imagine what would have been if it wasnt! It deserves some negative press!
I think your reaction is totally justified so no need to be sorry for anything. I sometimes think Sony should hire some people from GAF (i.e. the hardcore of the hardcore) along with those ex journalists they've been hiring. I really can't understand why they don't get that there really needs to be an outward facing rep right now to people like us. It's especially necessary when simply fixing the game right now doesn't seem to be a possibility.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
As many of us said earlier, they should have done an open beta for all PS+ owners, a la Destiny. Would have been a great way to test their servers and social features.
El_Cinefilo
Member
Haven't played the game yet, I will try it when the plus version eventually releases but the whole thing has been pretty embarrassing for Sony/Evolution.
From a poorly worded "Playstation Plus edition" that made people think they were getting a lot more than it has ended up being (I'm not convinced they didn't scale back their original plus edition plans), to an 11 month delay a few weeks from launch and then a completely broken game when it finally does ship to mediocre reviews and finally an indefinite postponement of the aforementioned "Plus edition".
I'm not to fussed because all this has completely killed my hype for the game, I wouldn't be surprised if there's lay offs at Evolution studios soon though.
From a poorly worded "Playstation Plus edition" that made people think they were getting a lot more than it has ended up being (I'm not convinced they didn't scale back their original plus edition plans), to an 11 month delay a few weeks from launch and then a completely broken game when it finally does ship to mediocre reviews and finally an indefinite postponement of the aforementioned "Plus edition".
I'm not to fussed because all this has completely killed my hype for the game, I wouldn't be surprised if there's lay offs at Evolution studios soon though.
TheMan
Member
i feel similarly, although I haven't completely ruled out buying the game
They need to do both ASAP. PS Plus subscribers actually paid as well for it. It has been one of the giant promised games for over a year now.
Weekend or not, when there is a crisis of this magnatude, you should be working day, evening and weekend to fix it. This is a huge marketing mess.
Amen.
I feel bad because I signed my name up to a GAF club but I was always intending to try the game first.
I suppose it doesn't matter since the online is broken anyway, so it's not like my 'club-mates' are missing out, lol. But at this point it's highly doubtful that I'll buy the full game, unless we get the PS+ version in the next two weeks and it's utterly incredible.
Shame, as I was really looking forward to this for some time. Now I wish they'd done another Motorstorm instead
Evolution IS Sony. They are owned by Sony. Sony is ultimately responsible. Just like when BF4 servers have a problem, people aren't bitching about DICE, they're bitching about EA which is an umbrella that has DICE under it. Sony WWS owns Evolution, Evolution's game is having problems, therefore Sony is overall responsible for this issue.
Yes it is most likely server software issues and not hardware and Evolution devs are working on the issue, but to say that Sony is blameless when one of their studios messes up, that's not accurate.
ALBOFIGHTER
Member
They got me. I couldn't wait anymore, I bought the game.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Hm. Interesting how I said the exact opposite of that.
Yeah I probably shouldn't have quoted you on that one. Was really in response to posters who think Sony is completely blameless when Evolution messes up.
foolishoptimist
Member
While the I've no doubt the cause of the issue is a technical one on the Evolution side, as publisher, Sony would have handled QA, and the lack of an Open Beta is a strange omission for a game with such crucial network requirements. I can't help but suspect that the decision not to have an open beta was a business one, which would likely have been made by the publisher, more so than the developer.
I just hope the solution comes soon, so I can stop reading all the whining because about someones free PS+ game is a little late. Complaints about the paid version not working are fair - but almost all MP games have server issues at launch nowadays. If you don't expect some problems, you're just not using your head.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I agree fully on the Open Beta thing. They could have easily made that a PS+ exclusive to get a good taste of what the server load would be like.
I don't agree on your attitude towards MP server issues. Just because it's commonplace doesn't mean that we as consumers should put up with it.
ZeroMaverick
Member
Every time this thread gets bumped...
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Was it ever actually determined that the game was essentially DDoSing its own servers, or was that just an assertion?
NullPointer
Member
duessano
Member
How is that ironic? I just rented Driveclub instead from Redbox.
binarymelon
Member
I would say we'll be lucky if we get the PS+ Edition before Halloween. If they're having this much trouble getting the game online for people who purchased the game (which I'm assuming is less than 1m), they'll have no chance getting the rest of the PS+ users online.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Nope, nothings been confirmed. It makes sense though when you consider the game is constantly updating challenges.
foolishoptimist
Member
It's not that I think we should put up with it, but people are acting like is the first time it's ever happened, or that it only happens with PSN. All these threads jump straight to reactions like "Sony Fix PSN!" or "I'm paying for PS+! How come all of that money isn't being spent on servers?".