Marvel's Phase 3 Announced: includes Black Panther, Captain Marvel

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Dirtyshubb said:
Wonderful!

Seeing this scene makes me wonder if we will get a scene at some point in the future where Thor talks to Cap and instructs/suggests he use the hammer? As in, since he saw Steve move it he starts to look at him differently and realise how worthy he really is.

Of course, it could just end up Thor dies/gets injured and Cap has to resort to trying the hammer as a last ditch effort to stop Thanos.

Either way, its gonna be a monumental moment, I can only imagine what audiences are going to be like since they have done a great job in reminding people that Thor is the only one worthy of using it.

The more I think about the MCU, the more I appreciate the subtle build-up they can do over the years, Cap slightly moving the hammer is a prime example of that.
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Or...

it's gonna stay with this single moment, much like Thor's lightning powering up Tony's suit to 400%.
 
Marvel going all in. Amazing line-up for the next 4-5 years. I was nervous that Avengers 3 would be Civil War but I'm happy it's Cap 3 instead.
 
Apparently there's a scene shown to the press (might have been at SDCC, can't remember) where

Cap slides on his shield, kick flicks it up to Thor, and he uses his hammer to bisect several ultron drones

fuck I can't wait to see this movie
 
I'm very intrigued by Feige calling Captain Marvel "the most powerful hero in the MCU."

That would be really badass, with Thor apparently nerfed from the comics, if Danvers is even stronger than him. Almost Superman/Sentry level power in the MCU.

I want a really badass scene with her flying around in space taking down a fleet of Kree warships single-handedly. Also expecting a cameo from some GOTG members in her movie.
 
Can we talk about the Captain Marvel logo for a second?

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That font. That shade of yellow/orange. That chipped-off paint showing the metallic lettering on the M. God damn it looks nice.
 
I'm ANGRY we've got no Captain Marvel/Doc Strange concept art yet. Chances are we'll be left with nothing for well over a year, barring some crazy leaks.

Captain Marvel's font is just on point. Very sci-fi.
 
Phase 3 is much more exciting than Phase 2 ever was.

Phase 2 was a bunch of sequels and added only Guardians.

Phase 3 has a few sequels but adds Ant Man, Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Inhumans to the universe. It also concludes with TWO Avengers movies.
 
thecouncil said:
Phase 3 is much more exciting than Phase 2 ever was.

Phase 2 was a bunch of sequels and added only Guardians.

Phase 3 has a few sequels but adds Ant Man, Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Inhumans to the universe. It also concludes with TWO Avengers movies.
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For whatever it's worth, Marvel is considering Ant-Man as a Phase 2 movie. Your point is still very much true, though.
 
thecouncil said:
Phase 3 is much more exciting than Phase 2 ever was.

Phase 2 was a bunch of sequels and added only Guardians.

Phase 3 has a few sequels but adds Ant Man, Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel, Black Panther and Inhumans to the universe. It also concludes with TWO Avengers movies.
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I mean it takes time to get to the point where they can feel confident that the general public are going to embrace such a lineup, with SO many new characters. GOTG was really the tipping point, I don't think Feige would be going full steam ahead if that movie wasn't as successful as it was.
 
guek said:
Apparently there's a scene shown to the press (might have been at SDCC, can't remember) where

Cap slides on his shield, kick flicks it up to Thor, and he uses his hammer to bisect several ultron drones

fuck I can't wait to see this movie
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Yeah, Whedon said they would ramp up the teamup attacks.
 
Hot Coldman said:
For whatever it's worth, Marvel is considering Ant-Man as a Phase 2 movie. Your point is still very much true, though.
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Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. I figured Phases were marked by an Avengers movie.

Also, the number of character adds in Phase 3 means Phase 4 and probably 5 may be sequels, sequels, SEQUELS! (unless some of these movies do poorly?)

Pai Pai Master said:
I mean it takes time to get to the point where they can feel confident that the general public are going to embrace such a lineup, with SO many new characters. GOTG was really the tipping point, I don't think Feige would be going full steam ahead if that movie wasn't as successful as it was.
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hey, whatever it takes, y'know? haha.
 
thecouncil said:
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. I figured Phases were marked by an Avengers movie.

Also, the number of character adds in Phase 3 means Phase 4 and probably 5 may be sequels, sequels, SEQUELS! (unless some of these movies do poorly?)

hey, whatever it takes, y'know? haha.
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Phase 4 will be sequel sequel sequel (for the seven new franchises) and phase 5 will be tons of new stuff again.
 
thecouncil said:
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. I figured Phases were marked by an Avengers movie.
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I think that was the original intent but Ant-Man probably makes more sense as an epilogue for Phase 2/bridge to Phase 3, while Civil War works as the kick off for Phase 3 more than Ant-Man does.
 
I do find it funny how they're releasing a film with Ultron and Ant-Man so close to one another when they have nothing in common...
that we know of. The defective AI unit Tony uses is so going to be from Pym Industries.
 
MasterBalls said:
I do find it funny how they're releasing a film with Ultron and Ant-Man so close to one another when they have nothing in common...
that we know of. The defective AI unit Tony uses is so going to be from Pym Industries.
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The synopsis says that Tony revives a dormant peace-keeping program. The "concept art" Marvel released for the Ant-Man helmet has an "alternate design" that looks exactly like Ultron. There's also going to be a flashback scene in Ant-Man involving Pym, Howard Stark, and Peggy Carter.

It really sounds like Marvel did a 180 on disconnecting Pym from Ultron after Wright left the project, even if they can't make Pym directly responsible for designing and building Ultron, it's probably going to end up being his idea in the beginning (or collectively with Stark and Carter) and decided it wasn't a good idea to pursue, with Tony being the one who picks it up years later.
 
Glass Rebel said:
Well, fuck. So he is considered part of the F4 series.

Well, I fully expect the next F4 to tank and the license to revert to Marvel eventually.
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They already announced the sequel seems like they are willing to keep taking shots with the property...well after avengers , batman and MoS made a bunch of cash they were, guess you can't blame em for taking a shot after all the success other properties had.
 
Do you think they'll start introducing more recurring villains, like Loki? It seems most villains in Marvel films are killed off at the end.
 
Robo-Zola
Zemo
Viper
Sin

As far as I'm concerned Cap's (remaining) villains are the best of the entire Marvel universe, but alas, I'm not sure how much of them we are going to see with Evans looking at new things after doing his part in the MCU.

Edit: But I need me some Enchantress. Mmmmhhh.
 
I can't stop watching the Infinity War teaser....

Age of Ultron trailer last week...
Infinity War this week....
What does next week hold?
 
Dirtyshubb said:
Wonderful!

Seeing this scene makes me wonder if we will get a scene at some point in the future where Thor talks to Cap and instructs/suggests he use the hammer? As in, since he saw Steve move it he starts to look at him differently and realise how worthy he really is.

Of course, it could just end up Thor dies/gets injured and Cap has to resort to trying the hammer as a last ditch effort to stop Thanos.

Either way, its gonna be a monumental moment, I can only imagine what audiences are going to be like since they have done a great job in reminding people that Thor is the only one worthy of using it.

The more I think about the MCU, the more I appreciate the subtle build-up they can do over the years, Cap slightly moving the hammer is a prime example of that.
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This may have been discussed in this thread already, I haven't read through it all but doesn't Steve Rogers have to die in Infinity Wars Part 1. Isn't Chris Evans only contracted for 3 more movies? Age of Ultron, Civil War and Infinity Wars Part 1?
 
tryagainlater said:
This may have been discussed in this thread already, I haven't read through it all but doesn't Steve Rogers have to die in Infinity Wars Part 1. Isn't Chris Evans only contracted for 3 more movies? Age of Ultron, Civil War and Infinity Wars Part 1?
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Nobody has to die. Contracts can be extended or not, stories can and will be changed. It's all up to what Marvel and Evans want to do.
 
Effect said:
This is my concern it should be a real one for people. Bubbles burst. However I think if it does happen not everyone is going to be affected the same. The one to be screwed the most is likely to be Sony as they're already at the bottom. Fox might be okay with the core X-men films. Any spin offs might crash. Marvel if they keep making films that fit various genres that happen to have super heroes in them might be okay but they'll have to stop multi-films per year. Same with DC who might just bank on the team films for those not Superman and Batman. Assuming all goes well for them with BvS and SS.

That schedule we have for the next several years can not end well. Something has to give on some front and no way does Marvel come out of that okay either.
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There's no "bubble". I think 14 years on, we can safely say "super movies" are not a fad, or a bubble, they're just another genre now. People keep going on about oversaturation but I can't imagine that term applies when the movies continue to not only make bank, but increase in said bank making (in terms of the MCU which only grows stronger as a brand year over year). The creation of the MCU has really changed comic book movies anyway.

I mean, do you really expect the casual movie goer to see a trailer for Doctor Strange (that is presumably a fine trailer) and go "well I can't go see that, DC and Sony have a bunch of other superhero movies coming out, it's too much!"? Of course not, they'll just judge that on it on its individual marketing as well as the "Marvel's Doctor Strange? Well I might see that" factor. Marvel's name is worth more to a moviegoer than DC's right now.

Basically, if Fox's FF reboot fails, or any of DC's DCU films fail, I believe it will be from them being shit and/or poorly marketed then from "oversaturation".
 
I'm more sad that we'll never get a BW solo movie because Ike is too cheap to pay Scarlett. :( (She has a per movie contract, so she would demand a hell of a payday to do a solo BW movie, especially after Lucy)
 
Pai Pai Master said:
The synopsis says that Tony revives a dormant peace-keeping program. The "concept art" Marvel released for the Ant-Man helmet has an "alternate design" that looks exactly like Ultron. There's also going to be a flashback scene in Ant-Man involving Pym, Howard Stark, and Peggy Carter.

It really sounds like Marvel did a 180 on disconnecting Pym from Ultron after Wright left the project, even if they can't make Pym directly responsible for designing and building Ultron, it's probably going to end up being his idea in the beginning (or collectively with Stark and Carter) and decided it wasn't a good idea to pursue, with Tony being the one who picks it up years later.
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I guess Hank actually stopped himself before Ultron became a thing. A shame Tony didn't follow suit.
 
Ithil said:
There's no "bubble". I think 14 years on, we can safely say "super movies" are not a fad, or a bubble, they're just another genre now. People keep going on about oversaturation but I can't imagine that term applies when the movies continue to not only make bank, but increase in said bank making (in terms of the MCU which only grows stronger as a brand year over year). The creation of the MCU has really changed comic book movies anyway.

I mean, do you really expect the casual movie goer to see a trailer for Doctor Strange (that is presumably a fine trailer) and go "well I can't go see that, DC and Sony have a bunch of other superhero movies coming out, it's too much!"? Of course not, they'll just judge that on it on its individual marketing as well as the "Marvel's Doctor Strange? Well I might see that" factor. Marvel's name is worth more to a moviegoer than DC's right now.

Basically, if Fox's FF reboot fails, or any of DC's DCU films fail, I believe it will be from them being shit and/or poorly marketed then from "oversaturation".
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Super hero movies aren't a fad but trends do tend to wax and wane. Just like fantasy movies were in vogue shortly after LotR and YA novels are all the rage after Hunger Games and Twilight. Comic book movies have the benefit of being able to occupy multiple genres but certain types of films such as sci-fi may or pulp/film-noir may or may not change in popularity.

Some people will see those changes in current trends and say the bubble has burst but the bubble never really pops, it just expands and shrinks.
 
guek said:
Super hero movies aren't a fad but trends do tend to wax and wane. Just like fantasy movies were in vogue shortly after LotR and YA novels are all the rage after Hunger Games and Twilight. Comic book movies have the benefit of being able to occupy multiple genres but certain types of films such as sci-fi may or pulp/film-noir may or may not change in popularity.

Some people will see those changes in current trends and say the bubble has burst but the bubble never really pops, it just expands and shrinks.
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I think Superhero movies are here to stay, their amount might vary for year to year. But I think they are now a legit genre.
 
Cybit said:
I'm more sad that we'll never get a BW solo movie because Ike is too cheap to pay Scarlett. :( (She has a per movie contract, so she would demand a hell of a payday to do a solo BW movie, especially after Lucy)
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I don't think she could hold a whole movie. And Lucy wasn't that good (IMO).

I personally find BW uninteresting.
 
Slayven said:
I think Superhero movies are here to stay, their amount might vary for year to year. But I think they are now a legit genre.
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DC and Marvel have more to give, and the popularity of the genre means Image, Dark Horse and other companies could have more franchise that are movie worthy.
 
Randdalf said:
Do you think they'll start introducing more recurring villains, like Loki? It seems most villains in Marvel films are killed off at the end.
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Crossbones is definitely coming back, Thomas Kretschmann who plays Baron von Strucker is signed on for I thought 5 films so he will probably stick arround.

And then there are the 'villains' from the Incredible Hulk. Blonsky has been name dropped in agents of SHIELD, so that probably means the Leader is somewhere in that same facility as well. And ofcourse General Ross, if that scene with Tony at the end is still canon (and I assume it is) I always got the impression that since Banner was untraceable they would go to Ross to get him to become Red Hulk, why else would Tony discuss the Avengers initiative with him anyways.
 
Cybit said:
I'm more sad that we'll never get a BW solo movie because Ike is too cheap to pay Scarlett. :( (She has a per movie contract, so she would demand a hell of a payday to do a solo BW movie, especially after Lucy)
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I find it hard to picture a situation where a Black Widow, Hawkeye, or even Hulk have room for a solo movie given the apparent plans they have for the overall MCU story.

Widow and Hawkeye just don't seem... potent enough to carry a movie against a truly threatening Baddie and the stuff they would be potent enough to handle is being taken care of in AoS by other groups of characters.

Hulk on the other hand is more than potent but his nature makes his solo appearances harder to fit in the current MCU climate. There's not yet so many supers (heroes or villains) for him to have his own battles without interjections from other members of The Avengers. Barring a development that gives Banner a more consistent control over Hulk.. I don't see how he could be in a solo movie without messing with the plans for future ensemble movies. Hulk can't just wantonly cause destruction to both good and bad and still be reasonably called upon for stuff like Ultron and Thanos in the future. The best I could see for Hulk would be a smaller ensemble with QS and SW sometime after AoU, where SW uses her powers to keep Hulk focused where he needs to be.
 
guek said:
Super hero movies aren't a fad but trends do tend to wax and wane. Just like fantasy movies were in vogue shortly after LotR and YA novels are all the rage after Hunger Games and Twilight. Comic book movies have the benefit of being able to occupy multiple genres but certain types of films such as sci-fi may or pulp/film-noir may or may not change in popularity.

Some people will see those changes in current trends and say the bubble has burst but the bubble never really pops, it just expands and shrinks.
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And they already did wax then wane. That initial storm of superhero films after Spider-Man crushed the box office in 2002 that continued for a number of years, is long over now. The only series still going from that time is X-Men, and that went through a bad phase too before the refocus with First Class.

Now they're (comic book films) back in force, mainly thanks to the new way they are presented in the MCU. Marvel are almost the only source at the moment, you have occasional ones from Sony or DC but as far as regular comic book films, it's all MCU films, and those films don't peter out, they grow stronger, as the MCU brand grows stronger. Look at the bumps Thor and Cap 2 got post-Avengers. That's going to happen again in Phase 3. Also the international market is massive for these films now. In fact the international market is now what makes Sony's ASM films a success, since neither of the ASM films exactly crushed the US box office, especially the second one.

DC wants in on that MCU money, but their DCU is entirely unproven o far, its success or failure will have nothing to do with the MCU and everything to do with how they handle it. If Dawn of Justice sucks, it'll sour the whole thing. The quality of the individual MCU films varies, but overall it is a very consistent and well paced universe that has a good system for keeping continuity and story arcs going. That is not an easy thing to do and DC are not guaranteed to pull that off.
 
Slayven said:
I think Superhero movies are here to stay, their amount might vary for year to year. But I think they are now a legit genre.
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Marvel made it to where their movies do in fact occupy multiple genres, so they won't be hit that hard in the event that the comic book bubble bursts.
 
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