Street Fighter 5 for PS4 & PC teaser trailer

hitsugi

hitsugi

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YEEEAAAAHHH!! Now that xbox live is out of the question, the only platforms have to end up with some type of decent netcode this time around.
 
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hey_it's_that_dog

benevolent sexism
Steve Youngblood said:
I honestly wish that people would stop trying to delineate every permutation of exclusivity deals to try and arrive at what "feels" right and just accept that exclusivity deals -- no matter the circumstances -- are a part of doing business and are fine. Tomb Raider exclusive to Xbox One? Good for MS, Square Enix, and Xbox One owners. Street Fighter V exclusive to PS4? Good for Capcom, Sony, and PS4 fans. Sometimes, it's an acceptable strategy to mitigate risk. Sometimes, it's necessary to get a game funded at all. But it's absolutely silly seeing people work through a bunch of extremely similar circumstances just to justify why Situation X was bullshit and Situation Y it totes on the up and up.
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How is it good for Xbox One owners that PS4 owners can't play Tomb Raider and vice versa for SF? These deals drive consumers toward one box or another, but that's only good for the platform holders. It would be better for the audience to be able to get any software on any platform, whenever that is a possibility (i.e., excluding games made by MS or Sony studios).

I agree that if a game couldn't exist without the platform holder's assistance, that's one thing. It seems like another if platform holders are spending money to lock out a user-base. That doesn't benefit the audience. Unless we're assuming that the game will be better because it's only on one platform (sometimes temporarily), which I think is a sketchy assumption.
 
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Xpliskin

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keit4 said:
Uh? Sorry, but i have zero problems with this game not coming to the Xbox One. What i said about Capcom screwing part of the SF userbase is a fact, there is no way to spin that :)
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I think I'm gonna stop reading this thread for a while. Actually, yes I'll definitely do that.
 
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Marcel

Member
TheOhrenberger. said:
So are we going to give Sony/Capcom the same amount of shit we gave MS/Square for the Rise of the Tomb Raider shit, or are we going to hold this to different standards again?
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The amount of self-justifying mental gymnastics in here is comparable to pro Smash players wavedashing back and forth.
 
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TheSlySoul

Member
Chobel said:
RoTR is different situation though, in the first reveal of the game it wasn't announced as exclusive, then suddenly 2 months later Bam! it's exclusive. Also there's was also BS PR from both MS and CD about the whole exclusivity deal.
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Also it was confirmed to be a timed exclusive and not an actual exclusive. They could have just said "Coming to Xbox One first" during the trailer.
Leafhopper said:
People who still think its Xbox exclusive are silly, its a timed exclusive.
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Agreed.
 
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Ninja Scooter

Member
Amir0x said:
The difference is in one case the game would not exist at all without the funding, and in another case the game was always going to exist and someone paid to prevent other people from getting it.

I mean it's a pretty significant difference and absolutely vital in determining whether anyone should be annoyed. It's like how Bayonetta 2 wouldn't have existed without Nintendo's help, yet people wanted to cry about it.
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So if Sony bought the exclusivity after the fact, but Capcom put that money back into development to make the game better, would that be okay? How would we ever know what is done with the money, is what I'm saying? It seems like a silly thing to take a stand on considering it's not something you or I will likely ever know because it's such a grey area (how much of MS' $50 million actually went into the development if Titanfall? How much went to marketing? How much went to paying bonuses or any other number of things a developer/publisher does with money? Which of these is okay and which isn't? To me it just feels like people are telling publishers to be more deceptive and secretive so that they can feel better about which side of a particular console war battle they are on. Please Capcom just say that Sony helped with "development" even though that's a super ambiguous term that could mean a hundred different things and could be no different than what Ms did with tomb raider or dead rising so that I can feel good about saying SFV looks awesome! I just don't get it.
 
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BruceLeeRoy

Banned
open_mouth_ said:
They've gone and done it... they've gone and woke the sleeping dragon now.

Sony should have left well enough alone and now they're going to get it. It's not enough that they're bleeding benjamins from practically every crevice of their existence. Now they go and throw immense moneyhats at a niche game like Street Fighter just to piss off the market. Why pay to keep a game out of the hands of as many gamers as possible? Why not put that money into first-party studios and games instead?

I know, I know... this is the way the business goes as they say. Well, they forced Microsoft's hands with their early sales lead and Microsoft only responded with an NPD whooping (source: musings thread) by way of incredible deals and value. Microsoft will undoubtedly follow this announcement up with some real megatons of their own.

Gears remake collection. A true Banjo sequel. Halo 5 beta in the hands of gamers. The next Bayonetta, Dead Space and Crysis as exclusives. Those are the kinds of blockbuster response announcements I expect, and then some. You hit Microsoft with a jab, you best be ready for a flurry of uppercuts coming at you in response.
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If this is a troll I have to say it might be one my favorites.
This line right here is the best:

open_mouth_ said:
Gears remake collection. A true Banjo sequel. Halo 5 beta in the hands of gamers. The next Bayonetta, Dead Space and Crysis as exclusives. Those are the kinds of blockbuster response announcements I expect, and then some. You hit Microsoft with a jab, you best be ready for a flurry of uppercuts coming at you in response.
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Don't dream too big now. Lets add some Brute Force and Blinx while your at it.
 
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Karsticles

Member
Steve Youngblood said:
I honestly wish that people would stop trying to delineate every permutation of exclusivity deals to try and arrive at what "feels" right and just accept that exclusivity deals -- no matter the circumstances -- are a part of doing business and are fine. Tomb Raider exclusive to Xbox One? Good for MS, Square Enix, and Xbox One owners. Street Fighter V exclusive to PS4? Good for Capcom, Sony, and PS4 fans. Sometimes, it's an acceptable strategy to mitigate risk. Sometimes, it's necessary to get a game funded at all. But it's absolutely silly seeing people work through a bunch of extremely similar circumstances just to justify why Situation X was bullshit and Situation Y it totes on the up and up.
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I don't see why people have to embrace the perspective of the business. I agree, it's potentially good for these businesses, but why should that matter to me? I am not the business. I am a fan of the games that wants to play them.
 
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TsuWave

Member
open_mouth_ said:
They've gone and done it... they've gone and woke the sleeping dragon now.

Sony should have left well enough alone and now they're going to get it. It's not enough that they're bleeding benjamins from practically every crevice of their existence. Now they go and throw immense moneyhats at a niche game like Street Fighter just to piss off the market. Why pay to keep a game out of the hands of as many gamers as possible? Why not put that money into first-party studios and games instead?

I know, I know... this is the way the business goes as they say. Well, they forced Microsoft's hands with their early sales lead and Microsoft only responded with an NPD whooping (source: musings thread) by way of incredible deals and value. Microsoft will undoubtedly follow this announcement up with some real megatons of their own.

Gears remake collection. A true Banjo sequel. Halo 5 beta in the hands of gamers. The next Bayonetta, Dead Space and Crysis as exclusives. Those are the kinds of blockbuster response announcements I expect, and then some. You hit Microsoft with a jab, you best be ready for a flurry of uppercuts coming at you in response.
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lmaoo is this a serious post? either way it is hilarious
 
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MastorofPuppetz

Banned
VinFTW said:
Show me proof on this, especially when I'm pretty sure this is such false information (isn't SE having financial issues too?!)




Show me where it was announced for PS4, XBOX and PC before the Gamescom exclusivity announcement?

Either way "we don't have to buy exclusivity" was a bold faced lie.
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Didn't a square employee confirm they didn;t need any money for TR, that it was going to be made anyway, and it was initially a multiplatform release,sony even had it on there stage as one of the games coming to PS4..and was up for pre-order for PS4.
 
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Amir0x

Banned
Ninja Scooter said:
So if Sony bought the exclusivity after the fact, but Capcom put that money back into development to make the game better, would that be okay? How would we ever know what is done with the money, is what I'm saying? It seems like a silly thing to take a stand on considering it's not something you or I will likely ever know because it's such a grey area (how much of MS' $50 million actually went into the development if Titanfall? How much went to marketing? How much went to paying bonuses or any other number of things a developer/publisher does with money? Which of these is okay and which isn't? To me it just feels like people are telling publishers to be more deceptive and secretive so that they can feel better about which side of a particular console war battle they are on. Please Capcom just say that Sony helped with "development" even though that's a super ambiguous term that could mean a hundred different things and could be no different than what Ms did with tomb raider or dead rising so that I can feel good about saying SFV looks awesome! I just don't get it.
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We might not find out in this case, but we have found out in other cases. We know Bayonetta 2 would not have existed without Nintendo, for example.

All I'm saying is that I think it's messed up too for XBO owners because I can't imagine this wasn't always going to get made. But in the event it really wasn't going to get made without Sony's funding, I'm OK with that. I'd rather a game exist than not exist.
 
MADGAME

MADGAME

Member
What's the over/under on how many iterations there will be? I'm not a hardcore fighting game player but I do like this series, and always feel a bit burned by having to upgrade my copy to get the newest version.
 
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onQ123

Gold Member
open_mouth_ said:
They've gone and done it... they've gone and woke the sleeping dragon now.

Sony should have left well enough alone and now they're going to get it. It's not enough that they're bleeding benjamins from practically every crevice of their existence. Now they go and throw immense moneyhats at a niche game like Street Fighter just to piss off the market. Why pay to keep a game out of the hands of as many gamers as possible? Why not put that money into first-party studios and games instead?

I know, I know... this is the way the business goes as they say. Well, they forced Microsoft's hands with their early sales lead and Microsoft only responded with an NPD whooping (source: musings thread) by way of incredible deals and value. Microsoft will undoubtedly follow this announcement up with some real megatons of their own.

Gears remake collection. A true Banjo sequel. Halo 5 beta in the hands of gamers. The next Bayonetta, Dead Space and Crysis as exclusives. Those are the kinds of blockbuster response announcements I expect, and then some. You hit Microsoft with a jab, you best be ready for a flurry of uppercuts coming at you in response.
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insert_foot_
 
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Marcel

Member
teiresias said:
Of course it's just business. You think the console industry is some form of altruism?
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Of course not. There are just consumers caught in the middle of stodgy companies using stodgy tactics to fling shit at each other. I choose not to be happy with the way things are.
 
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Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Sylver said:
Updated, I wasn't too sure if that was from IV XD

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you are a good person and I like you

Sylver said:
Mirror for the video:
http://a.pomf.se/woylcp.mp4
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have I said I like you?
 
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MastorofPuppetz

Banned
Compbros said:
What does this change though saying it's a leak and not an announcement considering this is an official teaser? I guess because some things can still be changed before it's officially announced?
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Umm they get to say a lot more when on stage revealing a game then a trailer leak.
 
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daveo42

Banned
We all knew this game was coming, we just did not realize it would be console exclusive to the PS4. At the same time, with poorer sales for the X1 outside of the US as related to the PS4, this news isn't nearly as surprising. Still, I'm not sure that this game should really be PS4 exclusive and guess that it will eventually release on the X1.
 
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Gbraga

Member
Karsticles said:
I don't see why people have to embrace the perspective of the business. I agree, it's potentially good for these businesses, but why should that matter to me? I am not the business. I am a fan of the games that wants to play them.
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The way I see it, it's perfectly fine to be upset, but some people don't just get upset, they act like spoiled kids, as if companies own them anything.

They don't own us shit. They made the business decision that made most sense, and now it's up to you if you want it or not.

Though I've been told more than once that my vision is too pro-company, so there's that. I just like to see games as products. You offer me the product, I'll decide if I want it, and that's it.
 
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Stone Ocean

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MADGAME said:
What's the over/under on how many iterations there will be? I'm not a hardcore fighting game player but I do like this series, and always feel a bit burned by having to upgrade my copy to get the newest version.
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This hasn't been a thing in years. Any updates will come as DLC moving forward.
 
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e-gamer

Member
RoboPlato said:
I figured SF was a franchise too big for exclusivity so this is really surprising.
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It was exclusive to SNES for years on 16 bit generation and it also was too big that time.

I think it's timed exclusive because less than a year before launch we'll have a revamped version like SSF5 to be multiplatform.
 
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Steve Youngblood

Member
Amir0x said:
But there is a difference between funding a game that otherwise would not exist (not saying that's the case here, I don't know) and paying for a game that was always going to exist to not go on another platform. I mean I don't think that's remotely silly to have issue with one of these and not the other.
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My issue is not that there's literally "no difference at all" between circumstances. It's just that I grow really, really fucking tired of the stupid console wars bullshit that arises in response to trying to establish how one isn't just different than the other, but so wildly different that it's completely ok to lose my shit when this thing happens, but when this other fairly similar but slightly different thing happens I can spin it as totally positive. I'm not saying that Tomb Raider and Street Fighter and five other game examples are exactly the same thing and it's pointless to distinguish factors at all. However, the motivation behind the deals is still entirely the same. A publisher needs/wants money, and a platform holder is trying to bolster their library with exclusives.
 
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teiresias

Member
Amir0x said:
We might not find out in this case, but we have found out in other cases. We know Bayonetta 2 would not have existed without Nintendo, for example.
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Given Ono's previous comments there's also enough smoke that there may be fire concerning the "Capcom didn't want to fund it" camp.

Now, in that case, one can certainly find it hilarious that Capcom couldn't find the money to fund one of their largest selling IPs for next-gen development. It would be utter stupidity if that were the case.
 
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NumberThree

Member
Nice grab for Sony, and the best kind of exclusive in that it's still coming to PC! The art style looks like a cool evolution from SFIV.
 
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StevieP

Banned
SykoTech said:
Keep getting garbage, drive-by blanket posts like these.

GAF is not a hivemind. Got some specific users to call out, then grab the posts and call them out. Or, if you're trying to refer to Tomb Raider, then you need to check your facts. Unlike that game, SFV was never announced on other platforms beforehand. Not to mention it's coming to the PC as well.

...oh why am I even wasting my breath. I'd bet anything that you wouldn't say anything about some so-called hypocrisy if it was going Wii U exclusive or something. I'm responding to bait, but whatever.
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Neither was tomb raider. Neither was bayonetta 2. Get the fanboy accusation junk out of your head for a moment and go take a browse through those threads. You'll likely enjoy the meltdowns at the very least.
 
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