CyberPunked
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And they have to double the fps, and improve the visuals to be on par with the e3 reveal. Assuming that's what the game will look like outside of cutscenes.
DF: Is Uncharted 4 the generational leap we were hoping for?
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And they have to double the fps, and improve the visuals to be on par with the e3 reveal. Assuming that's what the game will look like outside of cutscenes.
EDIT: It seems that it was a mistake because cinema e3 vs real time final game.
gundamkyoukai
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I put it in quotes since i didn't want to mean cut scene specifically , it was for a lack of a better word. You want to see impressive then see the order like that guy above posted:
Now that's impressive.
The order is a very impressive looking and frame rate seem to be sort out since i have not read anything bad about .
Still i remember how people saying how bad it look early on this year and talking about downgrades when the uniforms get change lol.
EDIT the E3 bulid for UC3 made no sense .
Drake is getting off a plan and the airport but have guns and ammo on him in Yemen lol.
Those cutscenes went from pre-rendered to in-game. There was no downgrade.
let's not make this the next seven pages please
mysteriousmage09
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Posting these screens needs to be a bannable offense at this point.
What's dumb about it?
I see a lot of people believing that the game will look noticeably better at launch, while I'm not finding any proof of that happening with ND previous releases.
It seems something logical to do, if not, illuminate me please.
GhostTrick
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How is that dumbass ? I'm sorry I don't know what's behind that picture so...
On topic, I think the game looks great, but not the generational leap we could expect. The problem with Uncharted 4 discussions is that people are overreacting in both sides. You have the people downplaying it. Claiming it either looks unimpressive or even a PS3 game in 1080p. The game looks great, it has a lot of attention on details, and there's lovely soft and natural look on lighting and other effects.
On the otherside, you have people overhyping this, claiming it looks as good as the E3 reveal or is the best thing they've ever seen. No, it's not. Visuals clearly took a big hit since E3. The hair, the textures, the shaders... it's not about being wet or being night or whatever. it looks worse. It doesn't means it looks bad though. But more than that... framerate took a hit too. People now says that it was in-engine... yes it was. But people still used that E3 reveal to showcase PS4 horsepower or so.
That picture has been proven wrong time and time again here at GAF, to the point where mods have asked to stop posting or discussing it.
Those are pre-rendered cinematics. They are videos. No downgrade was made to the game's graphics. Those videos show a difference in lighting and setting, not a downgrade in the real-time graphics of the game.
GhostTrick
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Maninthemirror
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Astral Dog
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The most important thing is that the gameplay is improved thanks to the new hardware, the iq is more clean, and that they achieve 60fps, everything else is just bluff.
No problem, man. Not trying to be a jackass, but that picture seems to be a curse here at GAF, and keeps up popping time and time again.
Maninthemirror
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I would rather have it match the realtime video than to have this at 60 but thats just me
I feel the same way. That's where most of the disappointment comes from. Most of us believed they would clearly surpass everything out or soon coming to the PS4. This belief was generated from their past graphical achievements on the PS3, as well as from the E3 trailer. It's not a disappointment as in "this game doesn't look good", because it actually looks amazing, it's just disappointing in the sense that it seems to be playing in the same ballpark as other titles on the platform.
speakerlog
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I was pretty disappointed actually with the graphics. But then again I'm guessing the game is for a more open world design.
Oh, you mean Naughty Dog ran a video at an E3 presentation (effectively throwing people's expectations out of whack) and the subsequent gameplay footage shown didn't get up to the same standards? Interesting.
Okay.
So, don't trust trailers and media because they can be misleading about the final quality? Okay.
Primethius
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Having seen the gamersyde color corrected stuff, I can't see how this game is similar to other games on the system at all. Aside from Order 1886, this game absolutely blows everything else away on the system in terms of model quality, scope and especially image quality.
Excuse me...?
It's pretty damn close to that video. Not 100% of the way there, but quite close. Only differences I've noticed were the hair and the IQ (which is far closer than I expected). That video is very carefully framed with a wet character at night and a ton of DoF to hide imperfections.
boredandlazy
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No one knows what the exact frame rate that was going on in that gameplay vid, so we have no idea if they have to "double the fps" as you say. Cutscenes are real-time, so while it will look better, it isn't going to dramatically look better than gameplay.
I do not think they can get it on par with E3 reveal (and a short reveal it was btw), but I do think if they keep it like this, they can reach 60fps
gundamkyoukai
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I wonder if people would have feel the same way if the showed a set piece .
Remember ND has never given us a UC gameplay demonstration so early before and so low key .
Coolbgdog12
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This picture is automatic face palm worthy.
What game looks to be in the same ballpark on the platform? I can only think of the Order which is two months from release and is likely the final build.
Astral Dog
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I hope they focus on 60fps than to try to emulate the promise, overblown hype video of E3 that was a cutscene.
Its sad, because he still didn't learn going by his response.
I put it in quotes since i didn't want to mean cut scene specifically , it was for a lack of a better word. You want to see impressive then see the order like that guy above posted:
Now that's impressive.
That guy's hair going through the glass is pretty impressive. Or it just looks weird. In any case it looks nice, would like to see a more urban area or an interior in Uncharted 4. They've looked pretty sharp in the past games.
I dont think The Order surpasses it. Different art style and mechanics for both. The Order looks up close and detailed, whilst UC4 is all about Verticality and backdrop. Both technically impressive, but totally not compareable.
Yup. Not sure what games he/she is talking about. The Order undoubtedly is running on a beast of an engine.Looks fking gorgeous. But it is not par for the course so far on the platform. It is the best looking game ever and is an exception. I dont know what other games look as good as UC.
No Order looks clearly better. No question about it. I dont want to post the three new gifs already circulating in these forums but look at this new video that we got today of one of the scenes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI8Yy8uwQNY#t=869
It looks absolutely stunning. Now I am not sure if the game is technically easier to pull of than UC because it is more constricted and does not have foliage which is more difficult to do than regular geometry. But if you ignore technicalities and just compare the two games side by side on just visuals, the Order looks amazing. It is the best looking game ever made in my opinion. Nothing on consoles or PC even touches it. Not Crysis3, Not Ryse nothing...
I mean, in that sense how do you compare the graphics of any two games? You'll almost always have a different art style and scope for any game, yet that doesn't stop people from crowning different titles the graphics king.
Primethius
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I agree with this. I think most people would agree however that if there's one game that comes close to surpassing UC4, it would be the Order (for different reasons of course).
It has pretty much flawless IQ and looks ridiculous. I, myself, am more impressed by UC4 but there's no denying that the Order looks like CG to me at times.
Yeah, evry game out there looks like this. Definitely nothing any other studio couldn't do graphically.
Sorry for offending the Naughty Gods, that in the Uncharted 3 E3 trailer showed a cinematic which in the final game was replaced by real time graphics that made the scenes in question look much worse, I should trust that something misleading like that will never happen again.
Happy?
just watched this video, and I have to say I'm really impressed with the interactions between Drake and the environment.
Like, he got into a fist fight with that dude near the waterfall, water hit his head... so his hair gets wet. He throws a punch, hits the dude, and water flies off his face.
Then he slides down a mudslide, gets his back muddy. Walks too close to a wall, and Drake puts his arm up naturally to brush himself away from the wall.
Those little touches are insane to me. The cinematic value here is incredible.
Like, he got into a fist fight with that dude near the waterfall, water hit his head... so his hair gets wet. He throws a punch, hits the dude, and water flies off his face.
Then he slides down a mudslide, gets his back muddy. Walks too close to a wall, and Drake puts his arm up naturally to brush himself away from the wall.
Those little touches are insane to me. The cinematic value here is incredible.
CrichtonKicks
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Not true- the initial gameplay reveal of UC3 was the Chateau sequence and it was also in December approximately one year before release. Yeah it had the really cool fire effects but otherwise it was pretty similar to the UC4 reveal.
With UC2 the press got a look at a similar "low key" sequence from Tibet also around a year from release but that footage wasn't formally released to the public (though it leaked I believe).
Here we go again.
CrichtonKicks
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No you're still wrong. It's still a pre-rendered cinematic. Just like all of the cinematics in the series. It was never misleading because anyone familiar with the series knows the cinematics are pre-rendered and therefore the changes were purely artistic in choice and not representative of a downgrade.
If Uncharted 4 hits 60 FPS then I'll agree that the graphics are amazing.
R&C games were always great looking though. Did anyone ever complain that the sacrifices made for 60FPS were too much?
Deckard Chapel
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The "about' on the game's official site says that Nathan Drake will go on a globe-trotting adventure, alluding to the game having many different levels and locations presented to the player.
The gameplay trailer ends with a sprawling vista filled with many towns and cities both large and small, making the game look like an open-world adventure given the size and scope of the environment.
So, is this going to be like MGSV - where it's a few huge, open-world environments; or will it just be level based like previous installments in the series?
The gameplay trailer ends with a sprawling vista filled with many towns and cities both large and small, making the game look like an open-world adventure given the size and scope of the environment.
So, is this going to be like MGSV - where it's a few huge, open-world environments; or will it just be level based like previous installments in the series?
gundamkyoukai
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I won't call the Chateau low key the building was burning and falling apart all around you.
Still did not realize that they showed off so early .
No man, Uncharted isn't (and shouldn't be) an open world game.
Don't forget all praise towards ND equates to one jerking off.
On topic:
For all that the UC4 is doing as of now, I would definitely agree to this being a generational leap in terms of visuals.