I'm glad my PS4 and new laptop came with the perk of being able to power them.
About Nintendo's decisions on the New 3DS for America
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I'm glad my PS4 and new laptop came with the perk of being able to power them.
shacklesmcgee
Member
Getting a charging cable isn't a perk, it's an expected accesory included with basically any device that can be charged. Nintendo can eat a bag of dicks
This is the real crime.
March of the Crabs
Member
Does this come with microSD at least? If so, how big?
Dude, it's not the 'XL' part that's confusing, it's the 'New' that's slapped in front of it.
It should have had 'XL 2.0' or 'XL-B' or something. (It's not saying those are good names, but they are better/clearer names than just slapping 'New' in front of the existing name.)
Think about how confusing that name is for a second...
The choice is nice. Even after the XL came out, I never once thought of abandoning my OG 3DS for it. I was planning to get the small n3DS, but now I won't be getting any n3DS at all since the XL is the only option.
Pathfinder
Member
I was not aware the PS4 ran on batteries.
WrenchNinja
Member
4GB
Dunno but I just bought a 32GB for $17 because I'm expecting no more than 8GB (it's 4GB) and the new games such as Xenoblade taking up quite a bit.
Zombie James
Banned
Being able to charge a device that requires charging is a "perk" now?
RoninChaos
Member
The problem is it shouldn't be looked at as a perk. It's required for the system to function properly.
Where is your avatar from?
It's based on peak power draw. I'm not sure what the current charger is rated for off-hand, if it's like 500mA then it might be okay to switch, higher and it's a fire hazard.
For those consumers Nintendo has another product for you - it's called the 2DS.
How does that change anything? It's not like the 3DS can work without using a charging cable. It is a requirement.
Oh so I just replace the batteries when they run out with like AA's right?
Petrae
Member
Other "perks" include AV cables and controllers. We're damned lucky to get those, too.
Pathfinder
Member
Are we really making a big fuss over $8?
It appears we are. I just don't see why it's a huge issue. You know, PS2 didn't come with memory cards to save games when it first came out, and we as a culture survived.
I think we'll survive this too.
I wasn't aware the 3DS' batteries were the magic kind that could regenerate themselves. Fact is both devices require cables to power them. The ability to power them isn't a perk. It's a necessity.
Yes, 4gig.
Are you aware there's an entire series called New Super Mario Bros that sells just fine? Now -there's- a series where the name could get confusing, given there are sequels and everything. Yet it does fine.
lyrick
Member
Nintendo doesn't even have the Original sized 3DS as a purchasable option from nintendo.com, they only show the XL and 2DS. The 3DS has been dead for a long time in America, it's been XL or 2DS only for everything but refurbs for quite awhile.
http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/buynow/
http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/buynow/
Omegasquash
Member
Right, it's just something I never drew the line to think on is all. I don't think it's cool of them to not include it, but whatever, I guess.
Thinking about it like that, I might pick one up later on. Still no launch buy, for sure, and maybe if I hold out I'll get lucky enough that NoA will release the standard size. Maybe.
Probably not.
WrenchNinja
Member
If it's not supposed to be a huge issue for us to buy it, why is it a huge issue for Nintendo to include it?
I wasn't aware the PS2 required a memory card to work.
You people who keep using "It's only _____ dollars" excuse, if it's so cheap for you guys, go foot the bill for everyone complaining. It's so cheap.
USB was not designed for charging batteries. It's a Universal Serial cord. It only carries 5 Volts. And honestly, from a design perspective, you don't want plugs that can easily accept common incorrect cords that could cause damage,
In general, USB wouldn't really satisfactory solve the charging issue for electronic devices. Some devices can get away with it, but in general many devices need their own power supplies, if nothing else, which would make the USB angle moot.
What you really want is the electronics industry to come up with standardized power supplies; the power bricks on the cords. Whether that's feasible, I don't know, since different applications often have different requirements.
Yeah, we should be thankful to Nintendo for selling us products that actually work outside the box!/s
Fuck the corporate apologist bullshit in this thread.
Yes, we are, because you shouldn't have to buy extra accessories just to be able to play your system.
RoninChaos
Member
Not very different than the Wii U name. Nintendo sucks at differentiating their software platforms from one another. They used to do it well. GBA to GBASP. gameboy to gameboy color. DS to DSLite to DSi. Putting new in front of the name is about as stupid as the U on the Wii U.
Nintendo is making a big deal about something that's probably costing them 20 cents. Why shouldn't we make a big deal about something that costs us 8-10 bucks?
Pathfinder
Member
Nintendo is not the first company to cut corners to increase their profit margin, and I can guarantee you they won't be the last.
Now, while I agree this is a minor inconvenience, that's all it is. A minor inconvenience.
Not including a AC adapter with a device that needs one is fucking dumb.
Say what you want, it's just fucking stupid. I mean, I already have a XL and I'll use the one I already have, but it basically makes no sense for all the people that will be new to anything 3DS.
You can't just sell something without the basic thing that makes it work,.
Say what you want, it's just fucking stupid. I mean, I already have a XL and I'll use the one I already have, but it basically makes no sense for all the people that will be new to anything 3DS.
You can't just sell something without the basic thing that makes it work,.
Petrae
Member
They used to, yeah. From DS all the way through 2DS. New 3DS will be the first handheld from Nintendo to force consumers to buy a power source here in the US since the original GBA needed batteries.
SimpleGamer
Member
Yup.
Fuck the over-reacting hyperbole over people complaining about a <$5 charger. Would everyone be complaining if the N3DS was $5 more expensive with a charger? Probably not, but this alternative is actually better. jesus.
nephilimdj
Member
Seems no brainer just to buy a 2DS when its as low as 79US, 70%? less then a NXL and a charger.
How many other companies release products that cannot be used at all (or no more than a few hours anyways) without paying extra money? Plenty of companies love screwing over consumers but their products are at least fully functional out of the box.
It's really not a huge deal for most of us here but the concept of what they are doing is pretty insulting. The product will not function correctly without this accessory. That is the issue.
You people should calm down. I am not supporting this but they aren't hiding it either. The print on the (EU)-package stating that no charger is included is soooo huge... People that aren't able to see it will need much bigger screens than even the 3DS XL offers ;D
Zombie James
Banned
It's about time we put Nintendo's profits ahead of silly perks like being able to charge portable devices, folks.
WrenchNinja
Member
Nintendo is the only company I know that doesn't include a way to charge their product out of the box.
If it's a minor inconvenience for us, it'd only be a minor inconvenience for them to include it.
For those consumers Nintendo has another product for you - it's called the 2DS.
How does that change anything? It's not like the 3DS can work without using a charging cable. It is a requirement.
Don Mattrick parachute account spotted! But seriously, if this thing is merely going to offer slight enhancements of games then what is the point? The only exclusive we've seen so far has been xenoblade chronicles. I loved the original as much as the next but this thing looks like a severely downported piece of hot garbage. It's really upsetting. I would of rather they made it a downloadable wii u game. It wasn't THAT ugly, but I'd rather have it stay the same and play with my gamepad than deal with a downport.
Mechanized
Member
Did it come with a power cable? Yes it did. You could still play your games. False equivalence. Corporate apologist.
EnVy_CaLiBeR
Member
Yep. Don't care how cheap it is to get one. I can't think of a single modern electronic device that doesn't come with a charging cable out of the box.
This. If other regions didnt get the ac adapter, that doesnt make it ok for them either. No portable anything released in this day and age should be sold without some method of charging it. Period.
Name all the companies that cut corners by not including the component necessary to make the product function at all.
You'd be surprised how many normal customers wont notice it until after purchase, or even after getting back home.
Pathfinder
Member
Really? You've never received a new toy when you were a kid that didn't come with batteries, and required you to buy them separately?
Come on, now we're just getting ridiculous here.
tearsintherain
Member
I was mildly interested in buying a n3DS but mostly for the swappable faceplates, I'd like to have a few and swap em around.
Then I find out only the n3DS XL is being sold in America, and it does not support swappable faceplates.
I feel bad for the game designers who work at Nintendo, they come up with these great games and then a bunch of fuckwits around them do everything they possibly can to make sure as few people as possible play them.
I would not be shocked in any way if the big announcement at E3 from Nintendo is that they are launching a new console but you have to power it with solar energy.
Then I find out only the n3DS XL is being sold in America, and it does not support swappable faceplates.
I feel bad for the game designers who work at Nintendo, they come up with these great games and then a bunch of fuckwits around them do everything they possibly can to make sure as few people as possible play them.
I would not be shocked in any way if the big announcement at E3 from Nintendo is that they are launching a new console but you have to power it with solar energy.
shacklesmcgee
Member
bullshit answer
seriously name me an device that doesn't come with a charging cable
CosmicQueso
Member
What a strange thing for people to defend.
Well, I hope American retailers are prepared for the high % of units that will be returned when customers don't have a charger included and assume that the product they bought is defective.
Well, I hope American retailers are prepared for the high % of units that will be returned when customers don't have a charger included and assume that the product they bought is defective.