About Nintendo's decisions on the New 3DS for America
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I missed the context, apologies.
That's not really the point, is it? Holy shit I really can't believe I'm reading people defending this.
And another apologist.
No the fact that there may be an actual financial reason for Nintendo to do this beyond pissing off their customers. What if it came out that to include the charger they would of had to charge $220 or $230 because of taxes/costs, would this practice then be OK? Nobody knows the full story yet.
People acting like 5-10 bucks is no big deal. That's not the point. The point is that Nintendo has taken this nickel and dime policy. If it is so cheap for us to buy then why is too much for them to give us? Also, for newcomers what does this mean for them? We all know Nintendo is infamous for shortages here in America. You expect parents to make an effort to find an AC adapter when they are sold out at gamestop? If AC adapters are in short supply this will backfire.
Anyways, this is another slight to the American consumers. However, I am thankful that my wallet won't lose $200 bucks.
Anyways, this is another slight to the American consumers. However, I am thankful that my wallet won't lose $200 bucks.
WrenchNinja
Member
If it's so cheap, why isn't it included?
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Every single phone I've ever owned has come with either a charger or a USB cable + wall adapter. Don't know what you're talking about. And even if they hadn't, they all lately use micro-USB. Which, yes, most people do have lying around. The 3DS charger is proprietary, and thus the situation is completely different. The only way you'd have one of those is if you already own a DSi or old 3DS. That might apply to many people on GAF, but there's no reason to expect that of the average consumer. This is completely ridiculous.
Lanrutcon
Member
Well then: welcome to the club, America.
AdmiralMikey
Member
- There is no good reason to defend them not including an AC Adapter with the new systems. It's a complete scumbag move, either designed to force people to pay extra money to get an AC Adapter, or to lower the resale value of people upgrading from their old 3DS's, since they will need to keep the AC Adapter off those systems.
- I don't see a problem with only selling the New 3DS XL model in the US. It's nice to have more options, but from a corporate standpoint, they have more to gain in the costs saved by producing fewer different models, and the idea of faceplates is quite a gamble in the US. The Game Boy Micro and Xbox 360 faceplates never took off here, there's no reason to believe in a big turnaround for new 3DS faceplates. It's a measure to keep production costs down, and to keep additional, unsold Nintendo product from sitting on store shelves.
Maybe if the New 3DS XL does particularly well, we may see release of the standard-size New 3DS. In the meantime, Nintendo is playing the cautious route with releasing this new hardware, and I can't blame them.
- I don't see a problem with only selling the New 3DS XL model in the US. It's nice to have more options, but from a corporate standpoint, they have more to gain in the costs saved by producing fewer different models, and the idea of faceplates is quite a gamble in the US. The Game Boy Micro and Xbox 360 faceplates never took off here, there's no reason to believe in a big turnaround for new 3DS faceplates. It's a measure to keep production costs down, and to keep additional, unsold Nintendo product from sitting on store shelves.
Maybe if the New 3DS XL does particularly well, we may see release of the standard-size New 3DS. In the meantime, Nintendo is playing the cautious route with releasing this new hardware, and I can't blame them.
CosmicQueso
Member
Hot damn this is just so gross a post.
Yes, that's why I acknowledged how terrible Nintendo's naming conventions are in the second line of my original post.
Selling a game (or in NSMB case, a series of games) is entirely different than marketing a forked hardware-platform. You are trying to communicate and encourage a consumer to buy the updated version of what they may or may not already have. I would agree that 'New Super Mario Bros.' is a bad name, but fortunately it still leverages the brand-equity of having 'Mario' in the title.
If you are defending the name, I suppose there is nothing else to say then I disagree with you.
You're spending $200+ and Nintendo is too cheap to include something necessary for your system to work?
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Banned
A Moto G. I just used one of the bazillion USB-cables lying around in my apartment. When my Japanese New N3DS arrived (obviously without a charging cable) I just used the cable for my old DSi.
Seems like I have a head-start when it comes to learning how to survive in this no charge cable -future.
It's pretty harmless and you guys are fucking drama queens.
It's not because you think so that it's true.
Neuromancer
Member
No AC cable = disappointing and dumb
No white version with pretty colored buttons = insanity
I assumed I was going to buy a New 3DS on day one. Now I'm not so sure I need one at all.*
*I'm leaving myself room to backpeddle later
No white version with pretty colored buttons = insanity
I assumed I was going to buy a New 3DS on day one. Now I'm not so sure I need one at all.*
*I'm leaving myself room to backpeddle later
Gucci Messiah
Banned
You think refusing to include an essential device in the box isn't a big deal? Why should consumers be forced to jump through hoops to buy something that should come with the product? It's not like they didn't include a stylus, this is a charger. There's no defending this decision and we have a right to voice our displeasure.
Omegasquash
Member
Telling someone how they feel is wrong is almost always going to do nothing but give them an outlet to vent on you. People got a right to be annoyed and not buy it, but calling their decision, or feelings and opinions on the matter, wrong just ain't accomplishing anything.
Neither does anger on the other side either.
Nintendo definitely has a right to do this, but I feel like it's further evidence of a shift in attitude. They're not trying to compete through providing a better value anymore, they're providing some type of service and attempting to maximize profit wherever possible at the clear expense of the customer. I've been a fan of Nintendo for awhile, but their decisions over the past few years have baffled me. I question that, but this is just like...what? I get why, but still. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth so I won't pick one up, at least for awhile.
KillerMan91
Member
As far as I am aware even cheap mobile phones come with some kind of way to charge the device here in EU (like USB cable that you can connect to computer etc.). 3DS XL is pretty much only device that comes without any kind of way to charge it.
I just couldn't figure out why everyone was jumping on me. I never said it was ok, I was merely saying that it's up to consumers to not purchase the product, and that there's zero need for the government to get involved.
Somehow that becomes me saying I approve of the decision, which I do not. I do think come birthdays or Xmas kids will get these from parents who have no idea, and that's fucking SHIT.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
I've been waiting for the DS lite version of 3ds since launch, and this is just fucked up :/
Okay. An AC adapter wouldn't have added 20-30 bucks to the price of the system.
Well, actually USB is designed for both communication (between devices) and power supply. And 5V/500mA(900mA) is fairly acceptable for most mobile devices. Thanks to the new power-efficient chipset from Intel, there are laptops that could be charged with USB cables as well.
For me to believe that nonsense, I'd have to also believe that they're selling the 3DS at break-even or a loss. Guess what, I don't believe that.
No one forces you to remove the cable from the box.
If I'm spending $200+ on a system, it had better not require me to go through extra bullshit just to play it.
Honestly, it kind of hurts selling or trading in my current 3DS.
It may not be hard to get another one, but honestly the fact that people even have to think about this is fucking madness. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Did you see the post about Japenese taxes and regulations? It was in reference to that. I'm just open to hearing everything out before jumping off a ledge over $5.
Please tell me how the XL is a "way better" portable in every way, given that this is a portable device, so the portability of said device is of utmost importance?
lol
It's even highlighted yellow just to make it clear that "hey, this is important".
The way I see it there are three possiblities for a person buying a New 3DS:
1. They already own a 3DS/DSi, so they don't need a new charger.
2. They don't have a charger, but they know that the New 3DS doesn't have one... so just go buy one.
3. They don't have a charger, and they don't know that the New 3DS doesn't have one... in which case maybe they should do a little research on a product before they spend 200 bucks on it.
It's not you they should be worried about... It's parents buying this for their kids only to find out that they can't charge the fucking thing.
It's just a stupid decision.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
That tiny little notice? Yeah, I'm sure soccer moms buying a N3DS for little Jimmy are going to take the time to read that and then hop on Amazon to buy a charger so he can play the device they just spent $200+ on.
"Man, if you had just done some research on that new car, you'd know it doesn't come with wheels!"
That was my first thought. I'm a Vita owner that downloads most of my games. I've spent a good amount of money on those stupid proprietary memory cards.
The omission of a power source for a piece of hardware is beyond silly.
The reason your comparison is so incredibly stupid is that most every single device in the world uses a cable that is a standard. So if you lost one, you could probably easily find another from one of the many other devices you own. Nintendo's cable/charger is proprietary. They're not including a proprietary cable required to power the device. And you're defending that. Says a lot about you that you'd name-call people who have valid concerns about anti-consumer behavior.装甲悪鬼村正;147415745 said:
You really believe only 10% of people wanted the regular model?
There are going to be plenty of customers who skip out based on only the XL model coming.
I have no interest in another XL 3DS. It is too big for portability.
You're just grasping for straws now. It's a very clear notice repeatedly on the packaging.
So they are supposed to forgo profits to save you $5. You honestly can't understand why a company would want to make more money? Shitty practice or not, there is value in this for them which you just keep denying and calling people apologists. I'm not defending them; I'm defending a company wanting to make money being a logical thing in the world.
Sad thing is, that's probably true.
