Then those 90% must been dropped on their head as a baby. I was contemplating getting a New 3DS if the regular size was coming. I love the white one with the colored buttons. But as of now my money will be going to a potential PS4 or Xbox One buy later this year.
About Nintendo's decisions on the New 3DS for America
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Then those 90% must been dropped on their head as a baby. I was contemplating getting a New 3DS if the regular size was coming. I love the white one with the colored buttons. But as of now my money will be going to a potential PS4 or Xbox One buy later this year.
lyrick
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Why don't you tell us the last time a regular model 3DS was available from Nintendo (that wasn't a refurb)...
It's been a while, a long while.
But by mobile devices, you mean small cellphones. 5V/500mA is good for small devices; I won't deny that it can be used to charge some devices, but wouldn't that be a bit small for devices that consume more power?
I found this site and it claims that the adapter outputs DC 4.6V 900mA, which is a fair bit different than USB (lower voltage and higher current.) Also, since the cord powers the system directly when plugged in, it might need a higher quality Power Supply than a generic USB cable. Actually, that's probably why the adapter outputs 900mA; I wouldn't be surprised if 400mA goes to the system while a standard 500 mA goes to charging the battery.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
1. I was planning on trading in my 3ds XL, like I did when I traded in my 3DS. Why? Because of course Nintendo doesnt allow playing your downloaded games on mulitiple systems afaik.
2. Geez that great, already overpaying for a portable add another 20 bucks.
3. That's a big FU to people who just want to buy a Nintendo system considering all their other handhelds didn't require this.
Maybe we want this one instead of the od 3ds? This one has a bigger screen, face tracking 3d and it looks better.
Petrae
Member
When that shit has been included in every other handheld that I paid for over the last 10+ years? Yup. I'll complain about it if I please.
Corporate apologist drones don't seem to understand that it's the principle that has people upset here, and not the fucking price.
10 percent, represent.
BumblebeeCody
Member
I was just about to say that too. I thought the rest of the world got fucked over by this.
We knows they're trying to maximize profits. As consumers, we really couldn't give a fuck.
nobodyshero
Banned
What baffles me is why NA is the region getting the shaft. Don't sales in NA eclipse Japan and Europe by a factor of...a lot? Why are they always treated to the special editions and what not?
Seriously... I can understand to avoid buying the device but ignoring this... Than I can argue that soccer mom is able to get a refund - case closed. The only complaint I have is that customers don't save money when the charger is left out.
Pathfinder
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8 dollars. Keep the hyperbole in check, please.
But push the practice of making money too far and you lose consumers. Then see how much money you make. Not every company is Apple. Apple is unique.
You would and then you'd choose to buy it and then go get wheels or have a car without wheels. That's up to you. They didn't lie to you about the car.
I have no idea because I don't regularly check Nintendo's website for such things.
But this model was bigger, without being too big.
I mean we only have to go back to the DS line where the best selling model was certainly not the biggest one.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Oh NIntendo. What's next, not including the stylus?
Petrae
Member
I'll happily be one of the 10%. I'll replace my tablet instead, since it will come with a charging cable and won't require me to spend extra money on one.
Stop it. Until you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Nintendo is facing huge tax ramifications from including a cable that EVERYONE else includes with their devices in the US, just stop it. This is Nintendo being cheap fucks. It's anti-consumer, and they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Whew.
You may think you're presenting a logical argument here, but in reality you sound ridiculous. How many companies would leave out an integral component of their product? You're not making any sense.
Exactly why it's dumb to not slap one in the package already on top of everything else.
Thank you. It's a hard concept for some.
Team Top Hat
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There's no point in arguing. I get reported constantly in the Nintendo Community thread because these fanboys don't want to hear any criticism.
Absolutely, see my post on the second page.
Money made from not packing chargers + money made from selling charges > Lost profit margin of sales of pissed off people
I believe this to be true because I do think Apple is very close to Nintendo in their cult followings. I highly doubt there were a lot of people that in the end will actually not buy it because it doesn't have a charger. They are Nintendo fans and were planning on buying it already. But this isn't true then as a company they done goofed.
You are still confusing me defending the practice as a consumer versus me not a sa consumer trying to make logical sense of them wanting to make a profit . It's an awful practice and people should be pissed, but does it make business sense? Sure, I can see ways in which it would. I could also see ways in which it'll backfire immensely. My guess is it'll be more profitable for them in the long run. Did you read the OP?
Money made from not packing chargers + money made from selling charges > Lost profit margin of sales of pissed off people
I believe this to be true because I do think Apple is very close to Nintendo in their cult followings. I highly doubt there were a lot of people that in the end will actually not buy it because it doesn't have a charger. They are Nintendo fans and were planning on buying it already. But this isn't true then as a company they done goofed.
You are still confusing me defending the practice as a consumer versus me not a sa consumer trying to make logical sense of them wanting to make a profit . It's an awful practice and people should be pissed, but does it make business sense? Sure, I can see ways in which it would. I could also see ways in which it'll backfire immensely. My guess is it'll be more profitable for them in the long run. Did you read the OP?
And why should people buy expensive cars that don't even come with wheels? Why not buy one of those cheaper cars that actually don't dick you over?
Because let me tell you, the mobile market is looking mighty attractive to consumers these days. Maybe Nintendo should have thought of that instead of trying to save a buck or two.
Wickerbasket
Member
You should send that link to Nintendo, maybe they'll consider putting it in the box.
Or maybe they can't afford to ship a product that works out the box.
lyrick
Member
As someone who has purchased a new car, I can tell you that new cars don't come with shit.
Be prepared to purchase floormats, cargo nets, spare tires and all sorts of stuff that you would assume should just come with a car.
Haint
Member
3DS is 4 years old. They are still selling it for $200, without a charger. I am legitimately stunned by the decisions this company makes. They truly exist in a bizarro world.
False equivalency much? Mats or cargo nets are not required to make the car usable. A charger is required to use the 3DS. An apt car analogy would be like not including an engine, tires, or a gas tank.
False equivalency much? Mats or cargo nets are not required to make the car usable. A charger is required to use the 3DS. An apt car analogy would be like not including an engine, tires, or a gas tank.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
You're right, but it still pretty inconvenient.
RadarScope1
Member
You know, I'm not much of a Nintendo person any more. But I was thinking about the N3DS because I could dig a few old DS games and I could play some of the really great 1st party stuff (which seems more suited to my tastes than Nintendo console stuff).
But this is just fucking idiotic. I wanted the regular sized one, and I sure as hell don't want to buy a REQUIRED cord separately. I've said it before and I say it again - Nintendo and logic just do not go together any more.
But this is just fucking idiotic. I wanted the regular sized one, and I sure as hell don't want to buy a REQUIRED cord separately. I've said it before and I say it again - Nintendo and logic just do not go together any more.
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I didn't compare anything. I was saying that electronics coming without charging cables is a thing and it's a very harmless thing, I actually appreciated the fact that I could use the DSi one and not add another shitty cable that's hard to dispose of.
Resistance100
Member
I don't see the hate for a lack of AC adapter. It's been years since they have been included in EU Nintendo handhelds
This is my opinion, they're pretty much throwing away income by losing the faceplate market.
Why would there be one? 3DS chargers are AC only except for some official car chargers.
Quote
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None of those make the car run.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Standard New 3DS to be released in America next year as New 3DS Lite, BANNNNNK ON IT.
I don't care either way about the charger. I have one already and it's like this everywhere else.
I don't care either way about the charger. I have one already and it's like this everywhere else.
DrROBschiz
Member
The worst part is the lack of explanation
Nintendo is just pretending the whole world doesn't have the internet
Nintendo is just pretending the whole world doesn't have the internet
Your money argument is egregious and completely invalid. It's nonsensical. However, you point about Nintendo fans buying this regardless of the adapter is right. I don't disagree with you. I am a Nintendo fan and I would get the n3DS if the regular size was coming out. The AC Adapter is a nuisance for me. However, it's not a nuisance for those who NEED an adapter. It's not a nuisance for new consumers.
Portugeezer
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I hate big ass handhelds, XL is too huge for my liking, no smaller option is stupid.
装甲悪鬼村正;147418496 said:
How many electronics have you bought that require a proprietary cable just to function haven't included that cable?
That's incorrect. I've used a USB charger for years.
NOA does too much thinking about shit and overthinks it.
"oh wow the XL sells a lto better than the normal ones"
"WELL DEN I GUESS DEY DON'T WANT DOSE...AND NO WHITE WUNZ EIDER HERP HERP".
OR
"oh wow, a lot of people have our chargers already"
"i guesss NO NEW USERS WILL BUY THIS SO FUCK ADDING MORE CHARGERS ..BRB NOT LOCALIZING THIS GAME BECAUSE MARKET DATA"
so yeah I imagine the low sells of the normal 3DS and the fact that their last 5 handhelds had the same charger made them make this decision...
and because NOA likes shooting themselves in the foot by messing up the small things.
"oh wow the XL sells a lto better than the normal ones"
"WELL DEN I GUESS DEY DON'T WANT DOSE...AND NO WHITE WUNZ EIDER HERP HERP".
OR
"oh wow, a lot of people have our chargers already"
"i guesss NO NEW USERS WILL BUY THIS SO FUCK ADDING MORE CHARGERS ..BRB NOT LOCALIZING THIS GAME BECAUSE MARKET DATA"
so yeah I imagine the low sells of the normal 3DS and the fact that their last 5 handhelds had the same charger made them make this decision...
and because NOA likes shooting themselves in the foot by messing up the small things.
It's possible population density (along with Australia charging out the ass) justify some of this stuff as it's harder to have unneeded stock in some boondock place in the middle of nowhere, whereas in NA that's a very real concern so it's best to play it safe even if there's more potential buyers.
Or maybesmaller versions of gadgets take off more regularly in Europe, whereas in NA there does seem to be a "bigger, go bigger!" push (that I can't claim innocence of) that only the iPhone seems exempt from, and even then from the last charges I saw it looked like the iPhone 6 Plus still outside everything that wasn't an iPhone 6.
EDIT: Though yeah, I also am kind of annoyed at the lack of white OR blue. The blue seems to look nicer this time (And isn't blue/black either) but it's completely MIA. Will probably just go for the Monster Hunter one, that sort of gets me a white-ish one with some blue... and black insides. The red really does look nice at least in pictures though.
lyrick
Member
You're obviously not a Nintendo person since you've missed that a "regular" 3DS has not been available in the US for quite a while and was probably discontinued quite some time ago.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
As stupid as it is, lack of AC Adaptor has been a thing in PAL territories since the original XL. I thought it'd be the same for NA. Guess not
You can't wrap your head around someone not wanting to support a company that openly treats them with disrespect?
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Not really surprised. The n3DS was never meant for their casual audience anyway. I doubt families and little kids care about better 3D, double the graphics power, and a C-stick. They're more interested in the 2DS as that's the cheapest model. A regular n3DS would saturate the lineup and they probably make more money off the XL. In Canada they can make the nXL their high-end model due to the exchange rate.
Companies nickel and diming are nothing new either. Amazon used to send full-page invoices with packages. Now it's on a piece of scrap paper. Some companies have even completely abandoned shipping invoices. It's chump change to go online and print one off, but it adds up for them. Battery-powered devices that don't come with batteries, electronics that don't come with cables, phones that lack a wall adapter (or a headset), etc.
Yeah it sucks but Nintendo isn't re-inventing the wheel here. The DSi removed backwards compatibility, the original 3DS came with a charging cradle, etc.
Companies nickel and diming are nothing new either. Amazon used to send full-page invoices with packages. Now it's on a piece of scrap paper. Some companies have even completely abandoned shipping invoices. It's chump change to go online and print one off, but it adds up for them. Battery-powered devices that don't come with batteries, electronics that don't come with cables, phones that lack a wall adapter (or a headset), etc.
Yeah it sucks but Nintendo isn't re-inventing the wheel here. The DSi removed backwards compatibility, the original 3DS came with a charging cradle, etc.