bananafactory
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EU update
DRIVECLUB |OT2| You Can't Rush Evolution
- Thread starter Radec
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Erm….I've had 5-10+ seconds between me and the next AI opponent several times, even on later races with Professional or Legendary AI.
Here I basically left them for dead, and it's the second to last race in the Tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP4dP644yGk
If the AI are keeping on your tail, it's because you're not doing perfected or ideal laps. But they do slow down somewhat if you're doing really poorly. As I've said before, it's dynamic AI, not rubber banding, in the sense that the AI will never go beyond the vehicles capable means to catch you, but they will increase in difficulty mid race. Think of it like an Easy, Medium, Hard difficulty toggle, only mid race. But the game will never cheese you the way rubber banding works in many other racers.
DHC-Shannow
Member
The AI does slow down to allow you to catch up if you make a mistake to reduce the frustration and need to restart. But it doesn't cheat to pass you, which is the rubber banding your talking about. Next time it happens take a vid of it - I've been in the thread a while and seen guys talk about this but never seen any actual proof.
SigSwat551
Member
Lower powered cars require very precise driving to be competitive. Mistakes are punished hard because you don't have the power (acceleration/braking) to even out little imperfections in your driving. Aiming for maximum corner exit speed is key here. Especially those corners followed by long straights.
MMaRsu
Banned
Damn Scee idiots. If the NA store can get it working without a hitch whats up with SCEE then?
Jeesh
viveks86
Member
EU PS Store team has consistently proven to be terrible at this job. Smh
bananafactory
Banned
Also Viveks what gives? It shows your Venom lap time as being over 1:16 on the leaderboard but AFAIK you have all the stars.
SweetJohnnyCage
Member
Hello folks! I was wondering how the drift mechanics in Driveclub were, when compared to an arcade racer like Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune? I fucking loved that game. Drifting felt so smooth when done correctly.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Dynamic AI or whatever you want to call it, the AI sucks. I waited 30 seconds at the start of a race to have a clear shot at a speed challenge and I caught up to the AI in like a minute. The entire pack was there. That is so stupid. All the actual racing events kind of suck, mostly because of the AI. If you are behind, they give up making all the "top 3 finish" stars pretty much trivial. If you are in the lead the utter perfection and ridiculous drafting is straight up retarded. I have been in straight after coming out of turn better than AI that was bumping each other in a car with better top speeds and been passed like I was standing still. Terrible.
viveks86
Member
I beat it when the leaderboards were still wonky. Most of my times/scores in the first tour are obsolete :/
DHC-Shannow
Member
Maybe because to beat the speed challenge your supposed to get in front of the pack by driving faster than them rather than cheesing the event by letting them get ahead? Drafting makes a huge difference too...
mangochutney
Member
Problem with the update is what exactly? That you don't see the pack for download or you download and it think you don't have it?
bananafactory
Banned
Surrree
That sucks though. I figured your times would eventually sync up when the servers got fixed, didn't realize some people's stats actually didn't register properly for leaderboards.
Summer Haze
Banned
Wtf is wrong with the EU store team?
MMaRsu
Banned
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
...What? What does that have to do with the AI almost effectively not racing lol
viveks86
Member
My only theory is that they aren't able to cope with the amount of monthly updates for this game.
Nakkilokki
Banned
But the Apex pack is already in the store. I don't quite understand what the problem is here.
DHC-Shannow
Member
Well maybe if you drove better you wouldn't need to try to cheat the game to get a star or find the AI passing you in a straight line. The AI has been programmed to be challenging without being frustrating, and to allow you to make the odd mistake without punishing you too much but it's apparently not suited to how you want to play the game. Still it's easier to complain about it than learn how to drive better eh!
Apex expansion pack is on the store, but the cars (but not the Apex tour) are still locked after download.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
lol@ cheat the game
I already "drove better" and blew out the AI but they kept getting in the way at that particular part of the race. However the AI was programmed to be, it was poor. It is by far the worst part of the game. You even defending that I was able to catch up to the entire pack of AI drivers after waiting 30 seconds at the line is just comical. There is no complaint of the game not suited to me. That is just flat out bad and should not be happening.
mangochutney
Member
They are in the patches, hence why you see them when you're browsing etc and it says 'you gotta buy dis', and then you unlock it.
That is what confused me too.
bananafactory
Banned
Part of their design philosophy was that they didn't want the player to feel like a race was lost just because they spun out or hit a wall. The AI is designed to be competitive and difficult at close range, but adapt so that one mistake won't cost you the entire race.
Whether or not you agree with that decision, it does do precisely this.
SymbiantXenos
Member
Well the stores down, so thats progress?
Is up for me in Portugal. Nothing new in there
The final chicane in both Venom hotlaps is the AI's weakness. If you can keep them within 4-5 carlengths up until that point, you can rocket past them on that chicane. Just pedal down and cut those corners enough to make as straight a line as possible and you'll slingshot past the AI. Take the final curve decently and you should come in under par.
mangochutney
Member
Someone is taking the piss trying to get me to drift and switch drift direction coming out of the tunnel in blinding light on Lake Slide aren't they.
bananafactory
Banned
I've noticed that too. I just cannot get those last fucking turns down. I ALWAYS shoot out too wide on the final one and grab some of that dirt on the far side of the road as I try to straighten out.
Ugh.
Gonna go again tonight.
viveks86
Member
The only reason I didn't have issues with this is because I got a random challenge a few days ago for this exact drift run, with a Venom, but it was cloudy, so I could see. It was a difficult score to beat too. I worked that switch until I perfected it as best I could, so luckily I had a feel for it being blinded. The good news is there's alot of score to be had in the other curves so if you don't ace that first one, you can still beat top par.
Good luck!
viveks86
Member
Hmmm I wonder who
bananafactory
Banned
viveks86
Member
Hahaha as soon as I read that I knew it was yours
It really is your fault though. I wouldn't have tried that track without seeing it in friends' challenges
Ok. Advice please?
I think I'm doing ok so far considering its my first racing game - got 50 or so stars and just coming up to doing the Amateur trophy. I'm starting to understand the idea of the apex, that I don't need to break at every single corner flag I see and even a bit of drift. Ooo get me!
But I'm really struggling with the first race of the Italian Performance Cup. The recommended car seems to be a Maserati Gran Turismo and it just handles very differently from everything else I've driven so far. I don't know if it's because it's faster, but it seems just to slide everywhere and I can't recover from any mistakes.
Any tips?
I think I'm doing ok so far considering its my first racing game - got 50 or so stars and just coming up to doing the Amateur trophy. I'm starting to understand the idea of the apex, that I don't need to break at every single corner flag I see and even a bit of drift. Ooo get me!
But I'm really struggling with the first race of the Italian Performance Cup. The recommended car seems to be a Maserati Gran Turismo and it just handles very differently from everything else I've driven so far. I don't know if it's because it's faster, but it seems just to slide everywhere and I can't recover from any mistakes.
Any tips?
bananafactory
Banned
The Maserati is a quite slippery car, it could be sliding for a couple of reasons:
1. You are braking and turning at the same time. Make sure you brake in straight lines whenever possible
2. You're accelerating too hard out of a turn/corner and spinning out.
It will slide a around a little at high speed during some of the shallower turns but you should be able to carefully control it.
DHC-Shannow
Member
That's the issue, either be accelerating or braking and never free wheel with those cars. Tap the accelerator to get your power back on, even with a bit of brake if need be to control the acceleration.
SymbiantXenos
Member
Still not up.... 
Yea, but it's such damn fine line; infuriated me during the India time trial in the Ignition tour.
Thanks!