Interesting. Autosport just had an article how they're going to miss the first Barcelona Test...Guess we'll see next week...
[edit] ah no they'll be using last years car for the first test...
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Interesting. Autosport just had an article how they're going to miss the first Barcelona Test...Guess we'll see next week...
[edit] ah no they'll be using last years car for the first test...
JadedWriter
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Either you want sponsorship or you don't Dennis. Negotiate something that's realistic that you both can sort of agree on or shut your pie hole.
Big Takeover
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Typical Ron stuff. It's great to see the broken economics of F1 plant itself on his doorstep like a giant pink elephant.
Played 1 championship so far and was going to try that strategy next GP. Won a couple GP's going with a H/H/S 3 stop strategy.
There is nothing surprising about a man losing his intellectual wit at the age of 84.
Business
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That's right but who is surprised at that general statement.
JadedWriter
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Dennis is many things, but he's not stupid. Personally I think he's being a bit on the arrogant side if he wants sponsorship money, but can't negotiate a price that the other party can agree on.
Considering the team hasn't won a relevant championship since 2008 and hasn't finished in the top three in the constructors since 2012. This isn't the glory days of McLaren, it's the rebuilding of their brand as they try to get back to winning ways. Compromise is something he should try to do every now and then.
brotkasten
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The drama about McLaren's title sponsor is even less exciting than the previous drama about the driver seats.
JadedWriter
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2012 was the straw that broke the fuck out of this camels back. I think I almost cried once.
I have never called bernie a moron. I will however call his a corrupt, greedy, ethicly vacant cancer growing on the side of a collapsing sport.
pants
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It was back in the early 2000s for me, mainly because I severely disliked the Schumacher-Ferrari juggernaut that dominated every race weekend and David Coulthard was the only driver I liked who would often be remotely near them.
Then when Coulthard left at the end of 2004, I realised I just didn't care for the team or Dennis's modus-operandi. Whitmarsh was a likable guy, shame it didn't work out for him.
Nowadays, I'm struggling to find a team that I can honestly say I want to see succeed. Force India have two of my favourite drivers,
and I have had the chance to visit their Silverstone factory before...
JadedWriter
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I started following at around 2009. I think if I was following the sport as long as you I would've stopped following them at around maybe 2006 I swear. That team flip flops on form too much I swear. Most of their cars post 08 don't even follow a consistent philosophy. I personally think they were lucky to have three really good cars from 2010 - 2012 because they were complete refreshes. It's a soap opera team, there's always something going on with that team...even post Hamilton, so it wasn't entirely his fault.
Psychotext
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Now I have even more reasons to dislike him.
I assume that beast is his.
I assume that beast is his.
pants
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Well...
If you give him a sixpence will he take you anywhere?
JadedWriter
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I saw a picture of him with Chris Rock and Rosario Dawson at some event. If he had any sense he'd rebound with Dawson.
Well...
It also killed all the vpn users.
I used to watch all the races on the BBC since their coverage is 100x better than the local Québec coverage.
Just another example how football spin the world around
Business
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the football number for the whole rights that Sky and BT can later resell to every other country, while the F1 number is only for the rights to broadcast in the UK, with every other country getting a similar deal from F1?
Sky and BT only purchased the rights for the UK broadcast.
As the person who broadcasts the football to all the other countries, I can safely say no.
The sky and BT money is for this country.
The PL broadcast to most other countries themselves, which broadcasters in those countries take when and if they like.
Cheeseman Battitude
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I can't wait for this season but the racing last year wasn't a patch on Formula e. I've been seriously impressed by that.
Psychotext
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Yeah, some of the skills on show have been appalling at times, but it's definitely been some entertaining wheel to wheel racing.
It's pretty easy to drive well when you are only doing 60mph and have a lunch break and car change in the middle of the race.
So f1 is going with 2m wide cars and lower wings it seems. As well as wider 18 or 20 inch rims. Michelin might finally come back.
Red bull want the changes next year, Merc think some research should be done to see what people actually want, instead if just letting nostalgia goggles decide.
Ferrari posited a 1.9l V8 turbo, until someone mentioned that Merc might pull even further ahead lol.
Red bull want the changes next year, Merc think some research should be done to see what people actually want, instead if just letting nostalgia goggles decide.
Ferrari posited a 1.9l V8 turbo, until someone mentioned that Merc might pull even further ahead lol.
It is indeed nostalgia that's bringing fourth these suggested changes. I thought the reason to make the cars narrower was to make it easier to overtake and now they want to undo that because hey remember the 90s???
Like Scarbs said some weeks ago, increasing the available horsepower through fuel flower rather than the ERS is also some backwards thinking.
Frankfurter
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Well to be fair there are several hundred games included in those football rights vs. like 20 races for F1.
Meh, pCARS and Assetto Corsa+mods are already far better F1 simulators than any CM F20XX game.
man i just thought about it while watching some old F1 clips..
wouldn't it be awesome if F1 hat a WWE Network type of subscription service??
One where you get an archive from full races back to the beginning of F1 until now.. i'm talking full seasons here.
Along with that some of the best documentaries about F1 with some original behind the scenes stuff. (Footage from drivers meetings etc)
Add to that access to F1 races right after they are finished (gotta protect TV contracts) with exclusive camera angles and interviews, all driver and team principle press conferences live streamed.
I'm probably not the first one to think about this but man what a dream come true that would be.
wouldn't it be awesome if F1 hat a WWE Network type of subscription service??
One where you get an archive from full races back to the beginning of F1 until now.. i'm talking full seasons here.
Along with that some of the best documentaries about F1 with some original behind the scenes stuff. (Footage from drivers meetings etc)
Add to that access to F1 races right after they are finished (gotta protect TV contracts) with exclusive camera angles and interviews, all driver and team principle press conferences live streamed.
I'm probably not the first one to think about this but man what a dream come true that would be.
Big Takeover
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I think it's easy to just call it nostalgia, it's only a formula after all. More mechanical grip, more power, less aero dependency. If it's believed that'll make for more spectacular car then your options are fairly limited. Bigger tires, wider track, smaller wings are just a recipe. This kind of stuff doesn't go magically obsolete.
Their thought when they went to the smaller track and grooved tires was less grip would make for better racing, but that turned out to be completely false. Less grip just meant you had to be ultra-smooth. It put too much of a premium on maximizing the little grip you had. Anything but would kill lap times. Hence the reintroduction of slicks. Narrower cars on the (then) narrower tracks (Old Hock, Argentina, Portugal etc.) made some sense, but today's tracks are gigantically wide. Too wide, imo. They don't need smaller cars any more.
I do agree with Scarbs though. More fuel wouldn't be the end of the world, but if they could generate more power from electricity, that would be the more relevant way of going about it.
Cheeseman Battitude
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Better racing had literally no bearing on the decision to use grooved tyres. They went grooved to reduce corning speeds and therefore end of straight speeds.
Slicks came back to try and increase mechanical grip for following closer in corners to improve overtaking.
The reasoning for more fuel is to run the cars at nearer 15,000 rpm rather than the 12,500 they run now.
I think the racing is pretty fucking great as it is if I'm honest.
F1 is lacking in other areas which would dramatically increase its popularity, namely access to drivers and decent race coverage. There are ways for them to 'spice up' the show without them actually physically changing much, if anything about the current cars and format.
Aside from that.. something I've been plugging for years (which unfortunately will never happen) is a televised Saturday night kart race with all the drivers involved. Every circuit has its' own international-spec kart track anyway, fucking use the thing. Proper 125cc racing karts, Rotax or whatever. That would sort the men from the boys.
Minimal cost, maximum entertainment.
F1 is lacking in other areas which would dramatically increase its popularity, namely access to drivers and decent race coverage. There are ways for them to 'spice up' the show without them actually physically changing much, if anything about the current cars and format.
Aside from that.. something I've been plugging for years (which unfortunately will never happen) is a televised Saturday night kart race with all the drivers involved. Every circuit has its' own international-spec kart track anyway, fucking use the thing. Proper 125cc racing karts, Rotax or whatever. That would sort the men from the boys.
Minimal cost, maximum entertainment.
Last season was so much less stressful for me because I wasn't complaining about that every weekend. Easily one of the worst things to happen to F1.
Yep. And every team had no complaints except for Red Bull because it didn't fit their car. Even Mercedes wasn't complaining (especially after their "secret" test). Then Silverstone happened and they changed and the boring returned.
I understand it was almost a cheat code to make things exciting by deliberately making worse tyres but it brought different tactics to races. Without refueling the pitstop tactics stopped until Pirelli made those tyres. Schumacher at Hungaroring happened because Ross Brawn designed the perfect tactics because tyres didn't last 75% of races and we had refueling. And I miss that because I loved seeing drivers make 15 straight laps like it was qualifying. Nowadays it's "stop driving fast Lewis. Fuel problems." or "Seb you have to slow down to delta time. Front left tyre will not last 50 laps if you keep racing instead of driving like a robot".
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Mclaren are having a filming day today and it seems reliability is once again an issue.
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