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They didn't explain it in the show, but the soul is sucked out as soon as the person admits defeat. So Joseph admitted defeat in his head and that's why he was able to pull out his soul.
They did explain that though.
They didn't explain it in the show, but the soul is sucked out as soon as the person admits defeat. So Joseph admitted defeat in his head and that's why he was able to pull out his soul.
Let see for the Jotaro part, for now I liked how they handle the Joseph part more than the OVAs
the OVAs have this session too brief for building meaningful tension, but now the worrying part is.. the Jotaro's part in danger to felt dragged.
it's interesting how D'Arby was counting on Joseph cheating for his own cheat to work. if Joseph hadn't cheated, he'd have been in trouble instead.
Not really, he only need to see if the tension was at maximum and have the chocolate melt, Joseph cheating only sped up the process.
but if Joseph hadn't cheated, his coin would have gone in when it was his turn since he filled it only to reduce 1 coin worth of liquid. also, couldn't he also see the tension limit, just like D'Arby?
although maybe he was so focused on his trick that he forgot to observe the tension carefully.
dude what
how can you not consider the chocolate cheating? barbie literally says "Its not cheating if I didn't get caught" eg "if jotaro had seen me apply the chocolate, it would have totally been busted for cheating"
lets not forget that Obie was the one to cheat first. Do you expect the protags to not cheat in return and thereby make it fair? you know what, even if he didn't cheat the protags would be justified in cheating because they're literally trying to rescue a man's soul.
Would you prefer that they win through the sheer power of their peerless friendship?
I would have been impressed if Jotaru and co could win without cheating, it would have been good writing and made us feel good. Joseph could have won just by being empowered through determination to save polnareff and the undying faith of Jotaru. Many of JJBA best moments came from determination and faith so a win in such manner would have been great. We shouldnt support cheaters. I believe the chocolate thing could have benefitted both players. The oil added hurts the following player with only a benefit to one player, which is where the problem in this scenario is. If D'arby has used oil then I wouldn't have an issue since hes an antagonist but its old Joseph using oil, its like hes the Lance Armstrong of surface tension.
I honestly think you do this to fuck with people.
I would have been impressed if Jotaru and co could win without cheating, it would have been good writing and made us feel good. Joseph could have won just by being empowered through determination to save polnareff and the undying faith of Jotaru. Many of JJBA best moments came from determination and faith so a win in such manner would have been great. We shouldnt support cheaters. I believe the chocolate thing could have benefitted both players. The oil added hurts the following player with only a benefit to one player, which is where the problem in this scenario is. If D'arby has used oil then I wouldn't have an issue since hes an antagonist but its old Joseph using oil, its like hes the Lance Armstrong of surface tension.
There are still people who don't get DTL's schtick?
Nah. With the group's best gambler out, the stakes are higher.Still sticking on my idea that Joseph jobbed here and would have been better if it was Jotaro who took the fall.
Still sticking on my idea that Joseph jobbed here and would have been better if it was Jotaro who took the fall.
I tried rationalizing why Joseph was defeated, but still the real one at fault here is Jotaro for not seeing D'Arby cheat in the first place.
He got too overconfident in his skills. Still, this was the moment in the show for him to shine, so it's a shame he got taken out.
Well, Joseph couldn't even have a last second realization of how he could win. Once the thought of him losing came to mind, D'Arby's stand kicked in.
Still sticking on my idea that Joseph jobbed here and would have been better if it was Jotaro who took the fall.
Joseph's an old man going senile. His time has passed.
Joseph's an old man going senile. His time has passed.
The conclusion to the D'arby conflict, was the best part of the old OVA.
Only JoJo could make random bets this high tension. Casino Royale eat your heart out.
Isn't this like the 3rd time Polnareff almost got somebody killed lol?
I would have been impressed if Jotaru and co could win without cheating, it would have been good writing and made us feel good. Joseph could have won just by being empowered through determination to save polnareff and the undying faith of Jotaru. Many of JJBA best moments came from determination and faith so a win in such manner would have been great. We shouldnt support cheaters. I believe the chocolate thing could have benefitted both players. The oil added hurts the following player with only a benefit to one player, which is where the problem in this scenario is. If D'arby has used oil then I wouldn't have an issue since hes an antagonist but its old Joseph using oil, its like hes the Lance Armstrong of surface tension.
In response to this post, I'm going to use Joestar Special Determination Faith Move #26 (patent pending)
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it's true that Joseph is still the best JoJo but sadly the main character now is Jotaro.Still sticking on my idea that Joseph jobbed here and would have been better if it was Jotaro who took the fall.
Only JoJo could make random bets this high tension. Casino Royale eat your heart out.
Hunter X Hunter is another show that can lend a high amount of tension to actions that would otherwise be ordinary/unremarkable, like a game of Rock-paper-scissors.
Smokey could see Joseph faintly glowing back when he did the bottle cap trick. It's likely that a lifelong hustler like D'Arby, even if Dio never told him about the Ripple, would have realized that something was fishy if Joseph suddenly touched the glass and something strange started happening to the liquid/he could faintly see sparking. Then he'd either call Joseph out on using some kind of trick, or just wait a few seconds for the Ripple to run out and the liquid to overflow, which would count as Joseph's loss.
A magic power that holds water in place would be cheating.Why would the Ripple be cheating though? In universe, it's a skill that has to be trained and mastered, rather than a random super power like the Stands. It'd be like saying that being too good at putting coins in the cup is cheating too.
You guys need to watch Kaiji if you haven't.
A magic power that holds water in place would be cheating.
I don't necessarily care about the gambling aspect of it, but the concept of people trying to constantly outsmart each other in clever ways. It's part of the reason why I enjoyed Death Note, for example. If Kaiji's like that, I'll check it out.
So is sleight of hand.It's not magic just because D'arby can't do it. It's a skill.
Kaiji is totally like that. The author pretty much only writes mind game gambling manga and is well known for it. Gambling is the perfect outlet for that kind of constantly outsmarting and clever tricks you want.
Also I just really want more people to watch Kaiji.
Go watch Kaiji please.